Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jun 16, 2008 2:31 pm ....hopefully you end up better off than this guy!
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/06/15/1213468240509.html Built Porter Davis "Dromana" 2007. Re: If your builder is *******..... 2Jun 16, 2008 2:57 pm Full Brick H****
There’s a name I won't forget! I’m starting to do a bit of travel Goulbourn, Sydney, South Coast…..and that name will be sticking firmly! I feel so sorry for that man! Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: If your builder is *******..... 3Jun 16, 2008 3:11 pm Terrible story Blog - http://clageonewhouse.blogspot.com/ Building Thread - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10886&hilit=milan I am in, with my husband and my beautiful bunny Re: If your builder is *******..... 7Jun 16, 2008 6:07 pm I think I would have stangled someone by now Grandview 36 on Beautiful Bribie Site Start Dec 5th 2007 Projected completion May 12th 2008 NOPE Handover 24th June 2008 Moved in 11th July 2008 Wating on one final thing - Still - Oct 2009 Re: If your builder is *******..... 8Jun 16, 2008 7:16 pm coljacqld I think I would have stangled someone by now or blood pressure problems or had a nervous breakdown or ......... Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: If your builder is *******..... 9Jun 16, 2008 8:56 pm Oh my God, that poor man I'd have blown the place up, with the builders inside
All I can say is thank God for Kevin and all of those other lovely Kevin types out there who can help us find defects before it ever gets to that stage. Dana -------------------------- Building with DFH - carpet installed! Re: If your builder is *******..... 10Jun 17, 2008 7:26 am I don't understand the story. This quote is preplexing..
Quote: the ground was never compacted and no slab laid What did the builder do? Start laying bricks on dirt? Perhaps this is another case of the owner not paying due diligence and failing to get independant inspections done. Why would you spend that much money on a house and then fail to make sure your builder is doing the right thing. Not very smart. Re: If your builder is *******..... 11Jun 17, 2008 8:55 am Newbuilder Perhaps this is another case of the owner not paying due diligence and failing to get independant inspections done. Why would you spend that much money on a house and then fail to make sure your builder is doing the right thing. Reminds me of when I bought a printer a few years back. It didn't come with a USB cable to connect to the computer... The guy's lack of due diligence is hardly an excuse for the builder trying to pull a big one over him. [sneakersss] Re: If your builder is *******..... 12Jun 17, 2008 9:03 am Newbuilder I don't understand the story. This quote is preplexing.. Quote: the ground was never compacted and no slab laid What did the builder do? Start laying bricks on dirt? Perhaps this is another case of the owner not paying due diligence and failing to get independant inspections done. Why would you spend that much money on a house and then fail to make sure your builder is doing the right thing. Not very smart. Yeah I think there is something missing here also, its just so black and white from the story that I cant believe it got that bad, there must be more to the story. But as for blaming the home owner for lack of 'due diligence' thats pretty lame, most people I know have never even heard of independent inspections for new homes, and thats from a board range of homes 200K - +1M! Re: If your builder is *******..... 13Jun 17, 2008 9:12 am This tragic story shows why we as customers must look after each other. There are many good builders out there, but like any business there are some * operators. Since most of us only build once we are not readily equipped to protect ourselves from what can be a devestating experience.
After this story, Full Brick Homes will be out of business. If the newspaper article can be believed (and we've only heard one side of the story), then Full Brick Homes should rightly be out of business. Builders should prosper not because they just extract extra profits from customers, but because they produce a good product at a fair price. So when your house is finished, let people know how it went. OK, time to get off my soap box and get back to work. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: If your builder is *******..... 14Jun 17, 2008 9:40 am mikkyG But as for blaming the home owner for lack of 'due diligence' thats pretty lame, most people I know have never even heard of independent inspections for new homes, and thats from a board range of homes 200K - +1M! Heard the saying "Caveat Emptor"? It means buyer beware. Why wouldn't you want to take as much caution as possible to protect such a large investment? Never trust anyone. Expect the worse. Protect yourself accordingly. Maybe then you won't find yourself in the mess this poor bugger from the story is in now. It would only have cost him $1000 or so in inspections. Live and learn I guess. Re: If your builder is *******..... 15Jun 17, 2008 9:55 am Newbuilder mikkyG But as for blaming the home owner for lack of 'due diligence' thats pretty lame, most people I know have never even heard of independent inspections for new homes, and thats from a board range of homes 200K - +1M! Heard the saying "Caveat Emptor"? It means buyer beware. Why wouldn't you want to take as much caution as possible to protect such a large investment? Never trust anyone. Expect the worse. Protect yourself accordingly. Maybe then you won't find yourself in the mess this poor bugger from the story is in now. It would only have cost him $1000 or so in inspections. Live and learn I guess. I think there is a marked difference between 'buyer beware' and 'due diligence' but I take your point. Re: If your builder is *******..... 17Jun 17, 2008 10:41 am mikkyG Newbuilder mikkyG But as for blaming the home owner for lack of 'due diligence' thats pretty lame, most people I know have never even heard of independent inspections for new homes, and thats from a board range of homes 200K - +1M! Heard the saying "Caveat Emptor"? It means buyer beware. Why wouldn't you want to take as much caution as possible to protect such a large investment? Never trust anyone. Expect the worse. Protect yourself accordingly. Maybe then you won't find yourself in the mess this poor bugger from the story is in now. It would only have cost him $1000 or so in inspections. Live and learn I guess. I think there is a marked difference between 'buyer beware' and 'due diligence' but I take your point. I think there's also a difference between 'buyer beware', 'due diligence' and what looks like gross negligence. Whilst not knowing the other side of the story it's not up to the owner of the house to ensure that the builder assesses the ground conditions and designs the house accordingly. Reading the article there also seems to be a clear failure of any "safety net" through his insurance. I tend to be somewhat unsympathetic if someone is diddled out a couple of grand because they didn't read a drawing properly and gets hit for an "unexpected" variation....but this case is completely different. It would be like buying a new car and finding the chassis riddled with rust....how many people check the car chassis when they pick their new car up. mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: If your builder is *******..... 18Jun 17, 2008 10:47 am to_do_list I tend to be somewhat unsympathetic if someone is diddled out a couple of grand because they didn't read a drawing properly and gets hit for an "unexpected" variation....but this case is completely different. It would be like buying a new car and finding the chassis riddled with rust....how many people check the car chassis when they pick their new car up. I think it would be pretty obvious. As obvious as building a house without a slab. Re: If your builder is *******..... 19Jun 17, 2008 10:54 am Newbuilder to_do_list I tend to be somewhat unsympathetic if someone is diddled out a couple of grand because they didn't read a drawing properly and gets hit for an "unexpected" variation....but this case is completely different. It would be like buying a new car and finding the chassis riddled with rust....how many people check the car chassis when they pick their new car up. I think it would be pretty obvious. As obvious as building a house without a slab. As I work in an area which currently flavor of the month with media (water efficiency, recycling, etc etc), and therefore knowing how often reportage is completely wrong, we really need to know the true facts on both sides. Based on "facts" presented IMO....he's been sc*rwed. mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: If your builder is *******..... 20Jun 17, 2008 11:38 am If a doctor writes a script and its the wrong medication or the wrong dose and the patient takes it and gets sick or dies, the doctor will get sued and/or delisted.
We wouldn't blame the patient for not researching that the medication is the right one or the right dose. Or expect the patients medical insurance to not cover costs of treatment. The doctor and the pharmacist are the professionals and the insurer covers medical treatment as per their policy. How many people are trusting of professionals with their health and don't check for mistakes?? (from my experience in health care: many ) so why do we expect the onus on building to be on the owner when the onus on personal health is not? In other words, even if the building is grossly mis- built, I dont think it is the responsibility of the owner. I agree with TDL, however, that this is different from unexpected costs or problems because of assuming things would be done a preferred way that is not a structural issue. Hi All, I just wanted to close this topic out with an update. So we ended up agreeing to a number with the insurance company, and after an extensive amount of hand… 8 23388 Hi Mofflepop, I would recommend finding a building designer to prepare plans, they should design to your specified budget. The benefit is you can tender the project out… 9 20354 |