Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Aug 16, 2014 12:59 am I'm stuck on the options on timber flooring and could definitely do with some solid advice from those that know! I would like the darker grey tinge/tone colouring so understand that I cannot get solid timber. Trees apparently don't grow in grey colour (said with sarcasm by a salesman) I really don't want to go with laminate flooring as it seems the cheaper way to go and hasnt been in the running.. yet.. So, in researching, I came across engineered floating timber flooring - link provided on my colour choice (but still open to suggestions). http://www.lionkingflooring.com.au/prod ... ntagegrey/ Would appreciate advice on the pros and cons on engineered timber floating flooring - (to include durability, colour choice range, Sydney suppliers at a good price) Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 2Aug 16, 2014 6:52 am Saving money on quality stuff done right firstime Our Build Thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66810&p=1094349#p1094349 Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 3Aug 16, 2014 10:07 am You can go tile, you can go floating floors or you can still go solid timber and have it stained (so the salesman was wrong there). For the timber look at a decent price the engineered floor is going to give you what you're after with some durability. Just don't fall for the line that because its a thick veneer you'll sand it down and refinish it down the track. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 4Aug 16, 2014 10:47 am I've seen some great looking tiles but timber is my preference. If I understand correctly you're saying I can't stain engineered back? So can't do anything about scratches? Is it easily replaceable if I bought extra in case? Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 5Aug 16, 2014 1:16 pm We wanted timber flooring as well. Our preference was real hardwood but it just didn't come in the colour we wanted. We currently have engineered floating timber floors and aren't locked in yet so we also have to try and make this decision before our contract signing next week. We were told you could sand it back 3 times! Our Blog: http://werelivingthedream2.tumblr.com Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 6Aug 16, 2014 1:49 pm You have to be wary of the sales spiel from some of the salesmen/women. As per what others above have stated. Engineered flooring is typically a 2-6mm veneer of your chosen timber bonded to a cheaper ply or mdf board to keep the cost down. If you scratch it you can sand the board and re-coat it but obviously it is not a solid timber T & G board that you could do this to many times over or sand 5mm off to remove deep dents or scratches. Sand through the veneer and you'll be in trouble. Stewie Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 7Aug 16, 2014 2:43 pm Have you looked at bamboo flooring? There are some great colours available Lexia Slim Twist with Beechwood Homes http://houseoflexia.blogspot.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/natlyn7/ Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 8Aug 16, 2014 7:53 pm The sanding issue has a few problems: 1. Often the floors are floating - not fixed at any point. Floors then can move or be too spongy for an industrial floor sander. 2. To sand and refinish a floor is expensive, dusty and takes days of work and more days still for smell of the poly varnish to go. Chances are on the cost and convenience front you'll just end up replacing them - so don't pay more thinking it'll be a long term prospect that you'll refinish again and again. 3. Depending on how the boards interlock its not that easy just to replace one board in the middle of the room that has been damaged. If someone wants to tell you it is ask for a complete demonstration not just an explanation. Lastly I'm not looking to talk floating flooring down. It gives great bang for your buck but it is what it is. If it was as good or better as real timber floors then timber floors would simply be no more. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 9Aug 16, 2014 8:52 pm Hi Nbat Check out this product http://bigrivergroup.com.au/product/engineered-oak/ I have installed this product in a number of houses and it is a great product with a 25 year warranty on the finish and lifetime structural warranty. As with all timber products they all have there advantages and disadvantages. I feel engineered timer flooring is really a great product and as conventional hardwood timber boards become harder to source it willl really take off. I am installing this product in my own house for the following reasons. (i will be trowel gluing to the slab to have the same feeling of a solid timber floor) - The total floor finish is 18 mm so there is not need to cut down doors or allow for the 40mm minimum required for onventional timber floors - Wider board width without the requirement of top nailing - Far more stable product with little chance of cupping or movement - A superior factory controlled finish - No requirement to sand and polish after installation ( messy and disruptive) - Its sooo much quicker to lay I have layed countless timber floors and really think engineered timber is the way of the future. If you want anymore info please feel free to PM me Matt Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 11Aug 27, 2014 3:56 pm Hi! If you happen to live in Queensland Versace Timbers can assist you with your timber flooring needs they can source and install it for you! Have a look at there website. http://www.versacetimbers.com.au/flooring.html Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 12Aug 27, 2014 4:44 pm mattnbiz Hi Nbat Check out this product http://bigrivergroup.com.au/product/engineered-oak/ I have installed this product in a number of houses and it is a great product with a 25 year warranty on the finish and lifetime structural warranty. As with all timber products they all have there advantages and disadvantages. I feel engineered timer flooring is really a great product and as conventional hardwood timber boards become harder to source it willl really take off. I am installing this product in my own house for the following reasons. (i will be trowel gluing to the slab to have the same feeling of a solid timber floor) - The total floor finish is 18 mm so there is not need to cut down doors or allow for the 40mm minimum required for onventional timber floors - Wider board width without the requirement of top nailing - Far more stable product with little chance of cupping or movement - A superior factory controlled finish - No requirement to sand and polish after installation ( messy and disruptive) - Its sooo much quicker to lay I have layed countless timber floors and really think engineered timber is the way of the future. If you want anymore info please feel free to PM me Matt Couldn't agree more Matt! I've PM'ed you with a few questions. Thanks in advance! Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 13Aug 27, 2014 5:36 pm Sorry to jump on board with this thread but I have a QQ regarding wooden flooring too. Is it easy enough to get your builder to lay skirting AFTER the flooring is done, so you dont get those horrible edge bits?? (Dont know their name sorry!!). That oak looks amazing!!! Jo Building 'The Havana Executive' on 1200sqm Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 14Aug 27, 2014 6:13 pm jomarshall Sorry to jump on board with this thread but I have a QQ regarding wooden flooring too. Is it easy enough to get your builder to lay skirting AFTER the flooring is done, so you dont get those horrible edge bits?? (Dont know their name sorry!!). That oak looks amazing!!! I believe the 'edge bits' you're referring to are 'quads' As for getting your builder to lay skirting AFTER....it really depends on the builder I built with Porter Davis and no way would they come back post-handover to install skirting! At best, what you can do is ask your builder to cut and just place the skirtings in place without nailing them to the wall. Couple of things to keep in mind though even if the builder agrees to the above approach: 1) Make sure you cut doors at an appropriate height to accommodate for the flooring, note that this may also apply to architraves around doors 2) Note that there may be some areas where you may not be able to avoid quads e.g. kitchen island areas, where the floorboards meet the kitchen cabinets 3) If you have carpet areas adjoining timber floor areas, consider how the skirting board will join i.e. if the skirting board for the carpet area has been installed PRIOR to the carpet installation and the skirting board for the timber floors areas are installed AFTER then they will be at different heights. If your skirting boards have a profile, then this may be tricky as to where you can join the skirting boards..... 4) If skirting boards are installed post the timber floor installation, make sure if the skirting boards are installed against a cavity sliding door that the correct shorter nail is used otherwise it will punch through all the way to the sliding door! Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 15Aug 27, 2014 9:37 pm My builder has agreed to come back after the engineered floors are laid, for an extra amount of course. I have nominated the height of the skirtings and architraves to be 16mm to account for my floor and underlay. I also have an island bench with waterfall edges/end panels, these edges get cut higher like the architraves and they return after the floors are laid to install the kickers, again for an extra cost. Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 16Aug 28, 2014 8:50 am Thankyou! So much to think about!!!! Jo Building 'The Havana Executive' on 1200sqm Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 17Oct 01, 2014 4:07 pm There are so many choices for the consumer these days, Bamboo, timber laminate, vinyl clad lining boards and of course the conventional floor boards fixed to bearers. All have good and bad points but Bamboo is definitely the stand out in the crowd of lining boards with its green appeal being plantation grown, weight, strength and appearance. Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 18Dec 07, 2014 5:13 pm mattnbiz Hi Nbat Check out this product http://bigrivergroup.com.au/product/engineered-oak/ I have installed this product in a number of houses and it is a great product with a 25 year warranty on the finish and lifetime structural warranty. As with all timber products they all have there advantages and disadvantages. I feel engineered timer flooring is really a great product and as conventional hardwood timber boards become harder to source it willl really take off. I am installing this product in my own house for the following reasons. (i will be trowel gluing to the slab to have the same feeling of a solid timber floor) - The total floor finish is 18 mm so there is not need to cut down doors or allow for the 40mm minimum required for onventional timber floors - Wider board width without the requirement of top nailing - Far more stable product with little chance of cupping or movement - A superior factory controlled finish - No requirement to sand and polish after installation ( messy and disruptive) - Its sooo much quicker to lay I have layed countless timber floors and really think engineered timber is the way of the future. If you want anymore info please feel free to PM me Matt My solid wood timber floors were 13mm thick and they look Fantastic. Engineered is a nice word for Fake. Remember I'm not trying to sell anybody anything, i'm just offering my opinion. My Solid floors are the WOW when you walk in the house. The Engineered stuff in the Boral Silkwood instance is more expensive than the real thing(and looks well...like a laminated floor). If you want a Timber floor get one, dont part with your hard earned for "Fake stuff". Warning Timber Floors will take ages to lay and the layers will put hand marks all over your new walls and smash into your plaster with boards. Tip: Last coat of the proper timber floor should be HD coating (the stuff they use for pubs and commercial traffic) Saving money on quality stuff done right firstime Our Build Thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66810&p=1094349#p1094349 Re: Timber Flooring options - so confused 20Dec 17, 2014 1:59 am Jays Agreed with Wandin. Nothing beats a solid timber floor that is sanded and polished in situ. We are going ironbark where the labour to install is equal to the cost of the wood. We went Grey Ironbark Saving money on quality stuff done right firstime Our Build Thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66810&p=1094349#p1094349 Engineering timber is certainly a less fuss option, times cheaper to supply and install and better withstands humidity. 1 11502 Hi there, I'm a conplete newbie to this, but I'm looking to put a floor down in my 6x9m shed. It's currently sitting on a 100mm thick concrete perimeter (dirt floor… 0 4442 If this is a custom build then I would expect the builder to set out the door frame closer to the wall to avoid the gap between architrave and the wall and or specify… 9 6278 |