Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 2Jul 31, 2014 6:36 pm Najam Can anyone tell me if $450k sounds too much for a double storey, 5 bedroom house (with double garage, 3.5 bathrooms). That doesnt include landscaping/driveway, upgrades for bricks, etc). Thanks! Hi Najam, it sounds too much especially without any of the upgrades you mentioned. Ours was 370 with upgrades, but slightly smaller only 4 beds 39 squares Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 3Jul 31, 2014 6:47 pm evec Najam Can anyone tell me if $450k sounds too much for a double storey, 5 bedroom house (with double garage, 3.5 bathrooms). That doesnt include landscaping/driveway, upgrades for bricks, etc). Thanks! Hi Najam, it sounds too much especially without any of the upgrades you mentioned. Ours was 370 with upgrades, but slightly smaller only 4 beds 39 squares Thanks! Who did you build with? Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 5Jul 31, 2014 8:13 pm I'm building pretty much that - double storey, 5 bed, 3.5 bath, 3 living areas + study - and pre-upgrades, it came in about 320k +23k of site costs due to around 1m of fall over the building envelope. That doesn't include any of the a/c, electrical &networking upgrades, or kitchen or brick or windows upgrades, or my garage door height upgrade. They add about 50k more all up, and that still doesn't cover flooring (other than wet area tiles) or driveway or landscaping or window coverings. My total build price, is looking like about 410k if I'm super economical with floor and window coverings. I think the size actually works out to about 42 squares though. Land settled May '14. Building the PD Hoffman39: 5/11=site start, 13/11=slab pour, 26/11=frame complete, 10/12=roof on, 12/12=bricking started. Blog: http://jyndeira.net/blog/ Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 7Aug 03, 2014 7:40 am Surely it depends on what's inside ? You mention a few standard things - eg driveway - but the prices on them are pretty fixed. What are the extra's inside - eg air/con, flooring, windows, stairs, woodwork, doorways, solar systems etc etc. Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 8Aug 03, 2014 7:04 pm Saint Mike Surely it depends on what's inside ? You mention a few standard things - eg driveway - but the prices on them are pretty fixed. What are the extra's inside - eg air/con, flooring, windows, stairs, woodwork, doorways, solar systems etc etc. We have air-con "thrown in" as part of an end of financial deal, flooring - carpet to first floor & 2 rooms downstairs (part of flooring package) and have upgraded to solid timber floors to remainder of downstairs (excluding wet areas which will be tiled). Kitchen we are leaving as is (added 2 cupboard doors to cupboard above fridge), the downstairs ensuite is an extension & have been given a quote of $15k. We have raised both ground floor & first floor heights (higher to ground floor), which means higher windows & doors downstairs. In the price it includes stone bench tops to all bathrooms/powder rooms, but only works out to about $3k when we take them & a couple of other "luxuries" out. We have also asked for a security system, wired-in doorbell, making first floor all brick except for front of house. I guess after all those changes it could add on all the extra $'s, but wanted to ask as we were told by a reliable source that it sounded too high. Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 9Aug 04, 2014 9:16 am Najam Saint Mike Surely it depends on what's inside ? You mention a few standard things - eg driveway - but the prices on them are pretty fixed. What are the extra's inside - eg air/con, flooring, windows, stairs, woodwork, doorways, solar systems etc etc. We have air-con "thrown in" as part of an end of financial deal, flooring - carpet to first floor & 2 rooms downstairs (part of flooring package) and have upgraded to solid timber floors to remainder of downstairs (excluding wet areas which will be tiled). Kitchen we are leaving as is (added 2 cupboard doors to cupboard above fridge), the downstairs ensuite is an extension & have been given a quote of $15k. We have raised both ground floor & first floor heights (higher to ground floor), which means higher windows & doors downstairs. In the price it includes stone bench tops to all bathrooms/powder rooms, but only works out to about $3k when we take them & a couple of other "luxuries" out. We have also asked for a security system, wired-in doorbell, making first floor all brick except for front of house. I guess after all those changes it could add on all the extra $'s, but wanted to ask as we were told by a reliable source that it sounded too high. And ... sorry - how big is the house ? Living area ? Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 10Aug 04, 2014 12:21 pm It's 40 squares (316 square metres) Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 11Aug 04, 2014 12:27 pm Living space is a bit over 275 square metres Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 12Aug 04, 2014 12:45 pm Najam It's 40 squares (316 square metres) should be 40 * 9.29 = 371 sqm Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 15Aug 05, 2014 9:43 pm Sounds high to me too, only by pure calcs, esp in comparison to the 42sq above. Big diff between 40sq and 34sq. At the said 34sq that's $13,235 a sq! By way of comparison on a per square basis, ours is approx $8,000 a square, albeit only one floor @ 29sq. This includes driveway (exposed agg), fencing, landscaping, blinds, flooring, 2.7m high ceilings, corner stacker doors at 2.4m upgrade, $2K worth of electrical upgrades, additional batts on certain walls, extra cupboards in laundry, cat 4 glass splashback, amongst other things Does that $450k include site costs? If so maybe that's what pushed it up? --- Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 16Aug 06, 2014 5:09 am H1 that is a pretty sharp rate you have there especially with those upgrades. Generally smaller houses are more per sq than larger it's just how it works. It's based on amortising a certain amount of fixed costs so the bigger then the cheaper per sq. double storey will always be more, generally because they tend to use more steel and working at heights. Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 17Aug 06, 2014 1:26 pm MyH1Login Sounds high to me too, only by pure calcs, esp in comparison to the 42sq above. Big diff between 40sq and 34sq. At the said 34sq that's $13,235 a sq! By way of comparison on a per square basis, ours is approx $8,000 a square, albeit only one floor @ 29sq. This includes driveway (exposed agg), fencing, landscaping, blinds, flooring, 2.7m high ceilings, corner stacker doors at 2.4m upgrade, $2K worth of electrical upgrades, additional batts on certain walls, extra cupboards in laundry, cat 4 glass splashback, amongst other things Does that $450k include site costs? If so maybe that's what pushed it up? Yes, that includes site costs. Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 18Aug 06, 2014 1:35 pm Crazyk H1 that is a pretty sharp rate you have there especially with those upgrades. Generally smaller houses are more per sq than larger it's just how it works. It's based on amortising a certain amount of fixed costs so the bigger then the cheaper per sq. double storey will always be more, generally because they tend to use more steel and working at heights. Oh okay, that's a good to know! Not sure if we'll ever build a double storey in our lifetime, as I grew up in one and it was a ***ch going down for a drink Yeah our builder is a smallerish local family builder, just starting out too but had really good reviews and I heard about them from word of mouth so you can't get any better advertising than people advocating them by way of experience in their builds. Even our independent inspector agreed on good quality being provided, but we are still in early stages of the build (just started bricks). We also have 40mm stone kitchen bench w waterfall edges & 20mm stone in bathrooms, added bi-parting doors to media room when there were no doors, and swapped a window with a bigger bi-parting door to external as well as additional shelving in pantry/above fridge, hot/cold water points and gas to alfresco and cold water point to fridge, under mount double sink and upgraded shower heads and height to semi-frameless shower door. No aircon though we'll get this done via a friend in industry. --- Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 19Aug 06, 2014 1:36 pm Just checked and it works out to a bit over $50k for site costs, hydraulics and BASIX Re: Cost too high? 40 squares, double storey 20Aug 06, 2014 1:41 pm Najam MyH1Login Does that $450k include site costs? If so maybe that's what pushed it up? Yes, that includes site costs. Let's say avg is $10,500 per sq as a generous level excl site costs, * 34sq = $357K for build. At the $450k level you were quoted, that means your site costs would have had to be $93K. Btw our $8,000/sq rate also includes site costs. Who is your builder? --- It will be neat but you won't have much freeboard. At least they are not weep holes. Are you in a high intensity rainfall region? The regulatory slope is only required… 3 8264 1 4581 Hi Kristy Around $1.7-1.8m or around $4,600/sqm. if you PM me your email I will send you a break up in a spreadsheet so you can get an understanding of the costs for… 1 9952 |