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singalg
@Navylion, I agree abt the contract period, as I have also paid extra for contract extension, and will be very upset if now Wisdom does not meet the 30 week contract period - which I am sure is very likely to happen.
I discussed this with my SS, he said he is working on a 40 Week timeline, (which I have no idea where he got that from) and he asked me to raise any concerns with CSR. I contacted CSR and she confirmed me that it is a 30 week contract, and to raise any issues back with SS. So there was definitely a ping-pong there and an opportunity for W to improve and better communicate.

My SS says we are tracking to milestones but my build time says 34 weeks and I've confirmed it's 34 weeks from excavation. I'm already at 34 weeks not including 3 week shutdown down period and I'm guessing I'm still 2 months from handover. Hope things pick up but I'd hope that wisdom also pay the per day cost for not meeting timeframes. Anyone know how much that is ?



We are going to find out this Friday, what's the process, what's involve and everything.
lombieagle
30 week contract = actually 40 week contract

I believe the 30 week contract that most on here signed last year and then when construction commenced where told by their SS it’s actually 40 weeks is Wisdom being anti competitive and/or unconscionable behaviour. I understand that factors may cause delay however to up front tell your customer of a 10 week delay seems to me unjust. I wonder what the ACCC view would be??

I recommend anyone that is about to sign a contract to change the $15 per day cost for not meeting timeframes to something alot higher.

Hi Iombieagle,

Thanks for this insight.

No one told me about the 30 weeks is 40 weeks build, I am not aware, this is the first time I heard it.

It will be easier if we were educated from the beginning, and it has to be in the contract.

Navy
NavyLion
lombieagle
30 week contract = actually 40 week contract

I believe the 30 week contract that most on here signed last year and then when construction commenced where told by their SS it’s actually 40 weeks is Wisdom being anti competitive and/or unconscionable behaviour. I understand that factors may cause delay however to up front tell your customer of a 10 week delay seems to me unjust. I wonder what the ACCC view would be??

I recommend anyone that is about to sign a contract to change the $15 per day cost for not meeting timeframes to something alot higher.

Hi Iombieagle,

Thanks for this insight.

No one told me about the 30 weeks is 40 weeks build, I am not aware, this is the first time I heard it.

It will be easier if we were educated from the beginning, and it has to be in the contract.

Navy

If it's 30 weeks in the signed contract then it's 30 weeks. It's a legally binding document???

If they go beyond the 30 weeks for reasons within their control then you are entitled to liquidated damages.

isn't it that simple?
stevezau
NavyLion
lombieagle
30 week contract = actually 40 week contract

I believe the 30 week contract that most on here signed last year and then when construction commenced where told by their SS it’s actually 40 weeks is Wisdom being anti competitive and/or unconscionable behaviour. I understand that factors may cause delay however to up front tell your customer of a 10 week delay seems to me unjust. I wonder what the ACCC view would be??

I recommend anyone that is about to sign a contract to change the $15 per day cost for not meeting timeframes to something alot higher.

Hi Iombieagle,

Thanks for this insight.

No one told me about the 30 weeks is 40 weeks build, I am not aware, this is the first time I heard it.

It will be easier if we were educated from the beginning, and it has to be in the contract.

Navy

If it's 30 weeks in the signed contract then it's 30 weeks. It's a legally binding document???

If they go beyond the 30 weeks for reasons within their control then you are entitled to liquidated damages.

isn't it that simple?

you will need to consider days lost due to rain
IamSAM
stevezau
NavyLion
Hi Iombieagle,

Thanks for this insight.

No one told me about the 30 weeks is 40 weeks build, I am not aware, this is the first time I heard it.

It will be easier if we were educated from the beginning, and it has to be in the contract.

Navy

If it's 30 weeks in the signed contract then it's 30 weeks. It's a legally binding document???

If they go beyond the 30 weeks for reasons within their control then you are entitled to liquidated damages.

isn't it that simple?

you will need to consider days lost due to rain

Do you normally keep track of the rainy days or does this get retrospectively worked out based on weather reports? Does this only apply until lockup?
stevezau
NavyLion
lombieagle
30 week contract = actually 40 week contract

I believe the 30 week contract that most on here signed last year and then when construction commenced where told by their SS it’s actually 40 weeks is Wisdom being anti competitive and/or unconscionable behaviour. I understand that factors may cause delay however to up front tell your customer of a 10 week delay seems to me unjust. I wonder what the ACCC view would be??

I recommend anyone that is about to sign a contract to change the $15 per day cost for not meeting timeframes to something alot higher.

Hi Iombieagle,

Thanks for this insight.

No one told me about the 30 weeks is 40 weeks build, I am not aware, this is the first time I heard it.

It will be easier if we were educated from the beginning, and it has to be in the contract.

Navy

If it's 30 weeks in the signed contract then it's 30 weeks. It's a legally binding document???

If they go beyond the 30 weeks for reasons within their control then you are entitled to liquidated damages.

isn't it that simple?


Our contract shows 40weeks. Is that Wisdom updated their build time or should that be negotiated??
Kazi
We are 24-25 weeks from site scraping.

Happy with current progress and SS.


Building Ambassador 41 Wisdom Homes

Slab 19 Mar 2018, Frame 20 Apr 2018, Bricks 04-31 May 2018, Gyprock 13-19 Jul 2018, Stairs 23-27 Jul 2018

Look fantastic kazi
Love the tiles in diamond pattern
Yara
kingofnowhere
Has any one got their landscaping plan from elsewhere (that is not with Wisdom)

There's a lot of places that specialise in just a quick simple job that will pass CDC or DA. The going price I think is anything from $195 to $295 to $395 on the internet.


My understanding is if you don't let Wisdom do the landscaping plan then you can't use the $5.5k landscaping voucher.
Thanks
My original choice was hexagonal but that was 4 times pricier than the standard plus additional labour cost. Hence tried this standard square charcoal in diamond pattern to stand out a little. There was some extra labor cost surely but wad ok for only one wall.
alce4463
Kazi
We are 24-25 weeks from site scraping.

Happy with current progress and SS.


Building Ambassador 41 Wisdom Homes

Slab 19 Mar 2018, Frame 20 Apr 2018, Bricks 04-31 May 2018, Gyprock 13-19 Jul 2018, Stairs 23-27 Jul 2018

Look fantastic kazi
Love the tiles in diamond pattern


Building Ambassador 41 Wisdom Homes

Slab 19 Mar 2018, Frame 20 Apr 2018, Bricks 04-31 May 2018, Gyprock 13-19 Jul 2018, Stairs 23-27 Jul 2018
Funk52
Yara
kingofnowhere
Has any one got their landscaping plan from elsewhere (that is not with Wisdom)

There's a lot of places that specialise in just a quick simple job that will pass CDC or DA. The going price I think is anything from $195 to $295 to $395 on the internet.


My understanding is if you don't let Wisdom do the landscaping plan then you can't use the $5.5k landscaping voucher.

Im just thinking of doing the Landscape planning from elsewhere (like for DA) and have Wisdom execute the plan and use the 5K voucher.
IamSAM
stevezau
NavyLion
[quote="lombieagle"]30 week contract = actually 40 week contract

I believe the 30 week contract that most on here signed last year and then when construction commenced where told by their SS it’s actually 40 weeks is Wisdom being anti competitive and/or unconscionable behaviour. I understand that factors may cause delay however to up front tell your customer of a 10 week delay seems to me unjust. I wonder what the ACCC view would be??

I recommend anyone that is about to sign a contract to change the $15 per day cost for not meeting timeframes to something alot higher.

Hi Iombieagle,

Thanks for this insight.

No one told me about the 30 weeks is 40 weeks build, I am not aware, this is the first time I heard it.

It will be easier if we were educated from the beginning, and it has to be in the contract.

Navy

If it's 30 weeks in the signed contract then it's 30 weeks. It's a legally binding document???

If they go beyond the 30 weeks for reasons within their control then you are entitled to liquidated damages.

isn't it that simple?

you will need to consider days lost due to rain[/quote]

Not just rain, “adverse weather”, so heat, high winds etc. One day of adverse weather I think can account to 3 days claimable. I have known builds run months over schedule on here and still not have liquidated damages paid.
Also the build period is from slab-PCI.


Funk52
Yara
kingofnowhere
Has any one got their landscaping plan from elsewhere (that is not with Wisdom)

There's a lot of places that specialise in just a quick simple job that will pass CDC or DA. The going price I think is anything from $195 to $295 to $395 on the internet.


My understanding is if you don't let Wisdom do the landscaping plan then you can't use the $5.5k landscaping voucher.

There is also no obligation for you to use WH to execute the plan either so unless you don't want their plan on your plans, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just let them do one for you.

As an aside, how strictly do you have to adhere to the plan for council to sign off at the end of the build?
becks81
There is also no obligation for you to use WH to execute the plan either so unless you don't want their plan on your plans, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just let them do one for you.

As an aside, how strictly do you have to adhere to the plan for council to sign off at the end of the build?

just trying to look at my options WH charges 850 for the plan, just trying to see if the landscape plans can be done else where bit less.
kingofnowhere
becks81
There is also no obligation for you to use WH to execute the plan either so unless you don't want their plan on your plans, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just let them do one for you.

As an aside, how strictly do you have to adhere to the plan for council to sign off at the end of the build?

just trying to look at my options WH charges 850 for the plan, just trying to see if the landscape plans can be done else where bit less.

I am meeting landscaping in 1hr to design our plans..

I'll let you know who we go with Wisdom. They might be ok
stevezau
kingofnowhere
becks81
There is also no obligation for you to use WH to execute the plan either so unless you don't want their plan on your plans, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just let them do one for you.

As an aside, how strictly do you have to adhere to the plan for council to sign off at the end of the build?

just trying to look at my options WH charges 850 for the plan, just trying to see if the landscape plans can be done else where bit less.

I am meeting landscaping in 1hr to design our plans..

I'll let you know who we go with Wisdom. They might be ok

Awesome thanks
kingofnowhere
becks81
There is also no obligation for you to use WH to execute the plan either so unless you don't want their plan on your plans, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just let them do one for you.

As an aside, how strictly do you have to adhere to the plan for council to sign off at the end of the build?

just trying to look at my options WH charges 850 for the plan, just trying to see if the landscape plans can be done else where bit less.

I think ours came with our package, sorry, I might be mistaken.
I also think ours was included in our signature package. We did not pay 850 dollar for the basic landscaping plan I think
becks81
kingofnowhere
becks81
There is also no obligation for you to use WH to execute the plan either so unless you don't want their plan on your plans, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just let them do one for you.

As an aside, how strictly do you have to adhere to the plan for council to sign off at the end of the build?

just trying to look at my options WH charges 850 for the plan, just trying to see if the landscape plans can be done else where bit less.

I think ours came with our package, sorry, I might be mistaken.


Building Ambassador 41 Wisdom Homes

Slab 19 Mar 2018, Frame 20 Apr 2018, Bricks 04-31 May 2018, Gyprock 13-19 Jul 2018, Stairs 23-27 Jul 2018
Yes you can consider going else where for landscaping plan. We wanted to as very close friend was happy to do it for free however doing so meant we would forfeited our $5500 voucher.
aaron2008
Yes you can consider going else where for landscaping plan. We wanted to as very close friend was happy to do it for free however doing so meant we would forfeited our $5500 voucher.

Would WH accept plans from us (elsewhere) and we have WH execute the landscape plan?
Yes, contact your CSO first.

Rules change all the time. When we were in admin it was a "Yes". Are you building at marsdens park? In that case Blacktown council are pretty easy with rules I heard.
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