Browse Forums Building A New House Building with Wisdom Homes 6701Jul 14, 2017 3:18 pm Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6702Jul 14, 2017 5:52 pm MandM+4 Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Hmmm thats not good and a bit cheeky. What's their reasoning for such a late variation to occur? Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6703Jul 14, 2017 6:14 pm ozmonkeyoy MandM+4 Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Hmmm thats not good and a bit cheeky. What's their reasoning for such a late variation to occur? "On completion of your final documents we realised that a levels and 88b variation were not raised" Basically because it was unregistered land they should have amended the site costs once final levels etc could be determined. However, the levels haven't changed, and the site has less than 1m of fall across it, so excavation should be included. Have to wonder, if our house needs drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump then all houses must! Anyway I have asked them for further explanation. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6704Jul 14, 2017 7:08 pm That's really poor of them to leave it this late. Did they give you the option of a split level instead? Our previous house had a slope and it was the expensive option of drop edge beam or cheaper option of split level. Wisdom Homes Manhattan 39 Blog - https://edmondson-park.blogspot.com.au H1 Thread - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=88210 Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6705Jul 14, 2017 7:10 pm Jordann That's really poor of them to leave it this late. Did they give you the option of a split level instead? Our previous house had a slope and it was the expensive option of drop edge beam or cheaper option of split level. Honestly, our site is like a billiard table. This is a pic of our pool being stencilled the other day to give you an idea. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6706Jul 14, 2017 7:16 pm Not actually the best pic as at the back of the block there is a little bit of slope, however the building envelope has like 200mm of fall across it so I don't understand why they couldn't just scrape it level Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6707Jul 14, 2017 7:38 pm Doesnt look that slopey from the photo at all. Are they certain you would need a drop edge beam? Wisdom Homes Manhattan 39 Blog - https://edmondson-park.blogspot.com.au H1 Thread - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=88210 Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6708Jul 14, 2017 7:42 pm MandM+4 Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Yea even though we had a flat block of land and we had some cut and fill, and also charged for an extra pump, the only difference is we were informed at tender stage and not at the end! Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6709Jul 14, 2017 7:43 pm Jordann Doesnt look that slopey from the photo at all. Are they certain you would need a drop edge beam? Hopefully we'll get an answer from them Monday because I'm not signing off on it without a valid explanation. Maybe they've just made a mistake. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6710Jul 14, 2017 7:44 pm gfernz MandM+4 Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Yea even though we had a flat block of land and we had some cut and fill, and also charged for an extra pump, the only difference is we were informed at tender stage and not at the end! What was the reason for the extra pump? It was originally on our Tender but they took it off at contract stage. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6711Jul 14, 2017 8:29 pm MandM+4 gfernz MandM+4 Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Yea even though we had a flat block of land and we had some cut and fill, and also charged for an extra pump, the only difference is we were informed at tender stage and not at the end! What was the reason for the extra pump? It was originally on our Tender but they took it off at contract stage. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes The used it to lay the foundation slab. But you can question it and see if they take it off.. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6712Jul 14, 2017 8:49 pm gfernz MandM+4 Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Yea even though we had a flat block of land and we had some cut and fill, and also charged for an extra pump, the only difference is we were informed at tender stage and not at the end! Just wondering what's an extra concrete pump for? We're being charged that too. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6713Jul 14, 2017 9:09 pm MandM+4 Jordann Doesnt look that slopey from the photo at all. Are they certain you would need a drop edge beam? Hopefully we'll get an answer from them Monday because I'm not signing off on it without a valid explanation. Maybe they've just made a mistake. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes I would not be happy about that. They had the contour of your land so they should have been able to work out if a DEB was needed. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6714Jul 14, 2017 9:12 pm gfernz MandM+4 gfernz [quote="MandM+4"]Just got an email now with a variation for excavation/fill and drop edge beams and an additional concrete pump?! Can they do this at this stage of the game?! We don't have much fall on our block at all. It's $4000 worth! Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Yea even though we had a flat block of land and we had some cut and fill, and also charged for an extra pump, the only difference is we were informed at tender stage and not at the end! What was the reason for the extra pump? It was originally on our Tender but they took it off at contract stage. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes The used it to lay the foundation slab. But you can question it and see if they take it off.. [/quote] Interesting. W told me the extra concrete pump is for the drop edge beam. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6715Jul 14, 2017 9:17 pm So I've had a good look at the plans and there's been a deepened edge beam under our leisure area since the plans were drawn up they just didn't remember to charge us for it until now. I think the concrete pump is to pour the DEB before the rest of the slab. And because we have that one section that slopes down a little we need the DEB to contain the fill. Still not happy about it and will definitely contest being charged for extra excavation and fill given the slope is so small. I had no idea that such a small amount of fill would have to be contained by a DEB. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6716Jul 14, 2017 9:27 pm MandM+4 So I've had a good look at the plans and there's been a deepened edge beam under our leisure area since the plans were drawn up they just didn't remember to charge us for it until now. I think the concrete pump is to pour the DEB before the rest of the slab. And because we have that one section that slopes down a little we need the DEB to contain the fill. Still not happy about it and will definitely contest being charged for extra excavation and fill given the slope is so small. I had no idea that such a small amount of fill would have to be contained by a DEB. We only have a small slope too but because of our council requirements any fill within 2m of our neighbour's boundary needs to be contained by a DEB. Totally sucks but not much we can do about it. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6717Jul 14, 2017 9:28 pm Chinoandbebe MandM+4 So I've had a good look at the plans and there's been a deepened edge beam under our leisure area since the plans were drawn up they just didn't remember to charge us for it until now. I think the concrete pump is to pour the DEB before the rest of the slab. And because we have that one section that slopes down a little we need the DEB to contain the fill. Still not happy about it and will definitely contest being charged for extra excavation and fill given the slope is so small. I had no idea that such a small amount of fill would have to be contained by a DEB. We only have a small slope too but because of our council requirements any fill within 2m of our neighbour's boundary needs to be contained by a DEB. Totally sucks but not much we can do about it. That makes sense, probably the same deal with ours then. Did you get charged for additional excavation? Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6718Jul 14, 2017 9:38 pm Our land was described as flat as a pool table by our salesman with less than 0.5m fall and we had the same charge. Apparently DEBs are also required if close to edge of land as ours was. Having said that there really was quite a deep edge on that side once it was poured Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Not a great photo but the right hand side Is about 5 brick courses high before it gets to floor level. (Hope that helps) majestic35.weebly.com Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6719Jul 14, 2017 9:40 pm Rocchet Our land was described as flat as a pool table by our salesman with less than 0.5m fall and we had the same charge. Apparently DEBs are also required if close to edge of land as ours was. Having said that there really was quite a deep edge on that side once it was poured Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Not a great photo but the right hand side Is about 5 brick courses high before it gets to floor level. (Hope that helps) Yes it does, thanks. Ours won't be that high but I understand the need for it now. Still cranky about finding out after signing off on our loan docs, which we purposely left til after the draft end panel so we could include everything! Did you get charged for additional excavation and fill? And an additional concrete pump? Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 6720Jul 14, 2017 9:41 pm MandM+4 Chinoandbebe MandM+4 So I've had a good look at the plans and there's been a deepened edge beam under our leisure area since the plans were drawn up they just didn't remember to charge us for it until now. I think the concrete pump is to pour the DEB before the rest of the slab. And because we have that one section that slopes down a little we need the DEB to contain the fill. Still not happy about it and will definitely contest being charged for extra excavation and fill given the slope is so small. I had no idea that such a small amount of fill would have to be contained by a DEB. We only have a small slope too but because of our council requirements any fill within 2m of our neighbour's boundary needs to be contained by a DEB. Totally sucks but not much we can do about it. That makes sense, probably the same deal with ours then. Did you get charged for additional excavation? Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Over $2200 for additional excavation import/export fill Can someone please offer some advice? Im DESPERATE. Because I'm completely and utterly exhausted. How long are variations taking with other companies at the moment? 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