Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15281Nov 17, 2019 11:52 am @AOC+VS We look forward to updates of your experiences with Wisdom Homes fixing the defects and other issues. These details will help their prospective and current customers as well as assist Wisdom Homes themselves to improve their service and implement an effective QA process for their sales, pre-construction and construction stages. Don’t be concerned about any restraining contract clauses, or other attempts at censorship by Wisdom, as the ACCC last year has cleared the way for people to comment openly about them without fear of legal or other action per https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/w ... ract-terms Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15282Nov 17, 2019 5:59 pm Hi There, I've got a question related to Landscapes (including driveways). Does anybody have an average figure on how much should it cost the whole landscape project, a ballpark figure is ok, just want to have some figure to compare to what I have been offered. Cheers Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15283Nov 17, 2019 6:19 pm malypetu Hi There, I've got a question related to Landscapes (including driveways). Does anybody have an average figure on how much should it cost the whole landscape project, a ballpark figure is ok, just want to have some figure to compare to what I have been offered. Cheers There are so many variables that can dramatically impact pricing 1. Block size 2. Pool or not 3. Retaining walls? If so what material 4. External fencing 5. Street facing fencing and/or electric gate 6. Hardscape concrete or concrete/tile and how much m2 7. Steps? 8. Driveway and if so what material 9. Outdoor Kitchen Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15284Nov 17, 2019 6:30 pm Manhattan52 malypetu Hi There, I've got a question related to Landscapes (including driveways). Does anybody have an average figure on how much should it cost the whole landscape project, a ballpark figure is ok, just want to have some figure to compare to what I have been offered. Cheers There are so many variables that can dramatically impact pricing 1. Block size 2. Pool or not 3. Retaining walls? If so what material 4. External fencing 5. Street facing fencing and/or electric gate 6. Hardscape concrete or concrete/tile and how much m2 7. Steps? 8. Driveway and if so what material 9. Outdoor Kitchen Uh Ok, apologies for the incomplete info, here it is the rest: 1. Block size 19.0 x 49.0 mts 2. Not pool at all 3. Retaining walls? If so what material Yes, only timber high 600mm H x 20m L 4. External fencing Nothing 5. Street facing fencing and/or electric gate No. 6. Hardscape concrete or concrete/tile and how much m2 Nothing 7. Steps? 4-5 from laundry to patio 8. Driveway and if so what material Yes. Concrete colour hardener, cove finishing including crossover, drop edge (rough estimate $25k) 9. Outdoor Kitchen None. The rest it will be just lawn Hope this gives a better idea to guestimate. However, if you do have a figure based on your case I'll love to hear it (PM) just to see what is normal or expected. Cheers Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15285Nov 17, 2019 6:54 pm Hi manhattan52 Who is your private building inspector? In an earlier post you mentioned your plan to appoint one. When will you schedule their next stage inspection for? Just before your PCI that I recall is due about now? Any suggestions for members? Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15286Nov 17, 2019 7:05 pm Norfolk Hi manhattan52 Who is your private building inspector? In an earlier post you mentioned your plan to appoint one. When will you schedule their next stage inspection for? Just before your PCI that I recall is due about now? Any suggestions for members? I use Housepect. I get every stage inspected as well as waterproofing. Next inspection will be PCI Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15287Nov 17, 2019 7:15 pm Manhattan52 Norfolk Hi manhattan52 Who is your private building inspector? In an earlier post you mentioned your plan to appoint one. When will you schedule their next stage inspection for? Just before your PCI that I recall is due about now? Any suggestions for members? I use Housepect. I get every stage inspected as well as waterproofing. Next inspection will be PCI Hi Manhattan, My husband and I will also get all stages inspected, how did Wisdom react to the outside inspections? And did it hold up your building stages? Thanks! Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15288Nov 17, 2019 7:17 pm Ambassador36 Manhattan52 Norfolk Hi manhattan52 Who is your private building inspector? In an earlier post you mentioned your plan to appoint one. When will you schedule their next stage inspection for? Just before your PCI that I recall is due about now? Any suggestions for members? I use Housepect. I get every stage inspected as well as waterproofing. Next inspection will be PCI Hi Manhattan, My husband and I will also get all stages inspected, how did Wisdom react to the outside inspections? And did it hold up your building stages? Thanks! Also can anyone recommend any other inspectors? Just wanting a range of quotes before deciding on one. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15289Nov 17, 2019 7:20 pm Also it would be nice to keep this thread going in a positive manner, anyone newish to the build like us? We are at council approval stage and hopefully getting it back any day! Anyone in a similar position? Keen to share the journey with others This thread has been super helpful! So much you overthink in some respects and so much you totally miss until someone pops up with something you have never thought of and totally overlooked! Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15290Nov 17, 2019 7:31 pm Ambassador36 Manhattan52 Norfolk Hi manhattan52 Who is your private building inspector? In an earlier post you mentioned your plan to appoint one. When will you schedule their next stage inspection for? Just before your PCI that I recall is due about now? Any suggestions for members? I use Housepect. I get every stage inspected as well as waterproofing. Next inspection will be PCI Hi Manhattan, My husband and I will also get all stages inspected, how did Wisdom react to the outside inspections? And did it hold up your building stages? Thanks! ambassador36 My SS knew in advance of my inspections long before my slab went down and had no issue whatsoever. He scheduled in an inspection day at each stage and went over the report fairly quickly when it was received. Rectifications happen at different stages depending what it is. Some straight away and some down the track. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15291Nov 17, 2019 8:06 pm Ambassador3 This thread has been super helpful! So much you overthink in some respects and so much you totally miss until someone pops up with something you have never thought of and totally overlooked! Have you also looked at the Things You Forget thread? viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5823 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15292Nov 18, 2019 6:54 am Ambassador36 whichever inspector you use on your Wisdom Homes build make sure that the defects they identify are rectified at the appropriate stage by seeing for yourself. It is appropriate to delay progress payments for the stage if the work for that stage has not been completed to the required standard or to the contract plans. Be very careful when the site supervisor tells you things will be fixed “later”. In my experience, as well as the experiences of others, often things won’t be rectified! Covering defects up and waiting until it’s too late or impractical to fix them (ie when you are ready to move in). The site supervisor’s focus is to keep the projects moving with money coming in, and he may tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear to achieve this. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15293Nov 18, 2019 5:57 pm Norfolk @Ambassador36 whichever inspector you use on your Wisdom Homes build make sure that the defects they identify are rectified at the appropriate stage by seeing for yourself. It is appropriate to delay progress payments for the stage if the work for that stage has not been completed to the required standard or to the contract plans. Be very careful when the site supervisor tells you things will be fixed “later”. In my experience, as well as the experiences of others, often things won’t be rectified! Covering defects up and waiting until it’s too late or impractical to fix them (ie when you are ready to move in). The site supervisor’s focus is to keep the projects moving with money coming in, and he may tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear to achieve this. Thanks Norfolk, we will def take this advice into consideration and be vigilant with getting any defects seen and resolved asap. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15294Nov 21, 2019 5:34 am WisdomHomes I found a 5 star review of a recent Wisdom Homes build published in a popular social media consumer review forum last Tuesday by a verified reviewer called ’Ria’. Congratulations to the Wisdom Homes Sydney team for delivering such excellence in the build process. Here is the review as published:
”Highly recommended - good value, perfect build, ahead of time, and to an impeccable standard. Wisdom Homes provided very professional service from the first day walking through the showroom through each successful milestone Completion. Having formerly dealt with other builders, Wisdom Homes in comparison to the others were like night and day. Wisdom Homes is trusted, reliable, flexible, over-deliver, value for money, happy to assist you in all aspects of the build and give excellent suggestions. The finishing and workmanship was impeccable. They have a wide range of trendy luxurious designs and colour selections, at very good competitive prices. They are very good value for money being an award-winning, reputable builder with deep trade relationships and discounts which they have then passed on these discounts and benefits to the customer. Wisdom Homes made the experience Very smooth. Everyone we met with was extremely committed, helpful, delivered outstanding service, and experienced in their fields. I was very busy and couldn't visit the site regularly but I felt completely assured as I was kept in the loop each step of the way by their trusted team. Wisdom Homes provided constant update on all aspects of the build, including stage of the build, timeline and what trades are working on. The build was broken down into milestones with an expected timeline and the team met each of the milestones ahead of time. I highly recommend Wisdom Homes for first home owners looking for a peace of mind and smooth process, busy people or if you are building a home whilst living overseas or interstate. The Wisdom Homes team is extremely professional, excellent value for money whilst keeping the build within budget, providing build quality above and beyond the scope and expectation and delivering it ahead of timeline.” (Published on 19 November 2019) Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15295Nov 21, 2019 6:35 am I just don't buy that it has come from Wisdom Homes. I suggest that publishing this cringe worthy advertising puffery on a review site was attempted reverse psychology designed to embarrass Wisdom Homes and cause damage to their brand. No advertising professional would be foolish enough to do this let alone have it approved for publication by responsible company officers. It is just too easily distinguishable as unacceptable advertising spiel to not raise suspicions of bad intent. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15296Nov 21, 2019 8:10 am I just accepted the verified review by ‘Ria’ at its face value on the public review forum. I am not very experienced with such advertising techniques per se. I seek to give Wisdom Homes credit where credit is due as I feel a balanced approach here is important. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15297Nov 21, 2019 8:25 am Norfolk I just accepted the verified review by ‘Ria’ at its face value on the public review forum. I am not very experienced with such advertising techniques per se. I seek to give Wisdom Homes credit where credit is due as I feel a balanced approach here is important. Hi Buddy, Having been through the initial design phase with Wisdom ( I pulled out cause they couldnt get the any of their designs to work with my block) and also watching some of their builds, my impression is that Wisdom do run a pretty professional outfit. I also find it interesting that you almost never hear about any building horror stories, so my personal opinion is that these guys are one of the better builders going around ( in the project home sector). Happy to hear that Ria had such a good experience! Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15298Nov 21, 2019 9:20 am Perhaps a reason for the limited number of reviews written about Wisdom Hones was the special clause in all their building contracts that restrained their customers from commenting about them on social media for many years. The consequences of this mentioned in the Wisdom contract included delaying the build and legal claims for damages. This clause was deemed unfair by the ACCC and was removed voluntarily by Wisdom at their request in June 2018. Another reason I believe could be that those customers who have recently built, or are currently building with Wisdom may be somewhat apprehensive about making any negative comments on social media forums in case this may affect their relationships and ongoing build or warranty rectifications. Anyway it’s good to see such a positive outcome for Ria.Wisdom must be doing some things well. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15299Nov 21, 2019 9:22 am Norfolk Perhaps a reason for the limited number of reviews written about Wisdom Hones was the special clause in all their building contracts that restrained their customers from commenting about them on social media for many years. The consequences of this mentioned in the Wisdom contract included delaying the build and legal claims for damages. This clause was deemed unfair by the ACCC and was removed voluntarily by Wisdom at their request in June 2018. Another reason I believe could be that those customers who have recently built, or are currently building with Wisdom may be somewhat apprehensive about making any negative comments on social media forums in case this may affect their relationships and ongoing build or warranty rectifications. Anyway it’s good to see such a positive outcome for Ria.Wisdom must be doing some things well. anything is possible. I would never use a project home builder again. Too many shortcuts and cheap nasty trades. hey did you end up getting all your Metricon defects fixed? Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 15300Nov 21, 2019 9:30 am Yes, got most Metricon defects fixed before PCI.The extra cost was only $85,000 plus the family stress. Some things I just had to grin and accept as I didn’t want to spend more time and money with lawyers and at NCAT as well as waiting at home for tradesmen. There have been no nasty surprises since, touch wood. Can someone please offer some advice? Im DESPERATE. Because I'm completely and utterly exhausted. How long are variations taking with other companies at the moment? We… 0 18436 In fairness nobody gave a crap about the ACCC and the gag clauses continued in the pro forma templates of a few other builders after the ACCC took on Wisdom, and more… 19 73284 Hi Everyone, I am exploring builder in NSW and received a very tempting quote from Wisdom home for their momentum series. I just want to know experience of building… 0 8207 |