Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9921Mar 22, 2018 1:15 pm Thank you for the replies! ozmonkeyoy, my Landscape plans show the letterbox to be "rendered in a colour to compliment the dwelling" (see below). When i emailed them about this last week, she replied and said the coloured render will be discussed "on site". For the price of $1,050 am hoping it comes painted... was going to ask them to paint it same colour as my garage or a close match at least. I think for the convenience, i am just going to get them to remove the fill. I can't believe the charge $750 for folding clothesline! Lol... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9922Mar 22, 2018 1:17 pm SejaeD ozmonkeyoy Hey SejaeD, Hope all is well. My lintel issue still remains unresolved. Builder has put it squarely on the engineer to make the call, am awaiting their latest response. In regards to topic at hand (letterbox); Just for others info, the letterbox that WL does, does supply all of the above, just just need to paint it yourself. Sorry to hear that the lintel issue is unresolved, honestly its really poor form. Let me think on it and see if I can come up with a suggestion. If that was on one of my construction sites i would make sure it was fixed. I dont need to tell you that its a major problem. With the render on the letterbox, is it possible to ask Wisdom to use an acrylic render so it wont need paint?? ie the colour is in the render. the application is the same so I am not sure why they cant do it Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. And yes they only used cement render on the letterbox Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9923Mar 22, 2018 1:19 pm ozmonkeyoy SejaeD ASJ1981 Hi guys, Quick question. I'm about to submit and send off our Provisional Landscape Allowance. Planning to get Driveway done only and possibly Rendered Letterbox. There is an item for "Fill Removal x 2 Mixed Loads $1,450* - Site Prep x 1 and Driveway x 1. *Alternatively fill can be stockpiled for removal by owner. Total Cost is $2,900. Is it easy to remove after handover? Lastly, is the Rendered Letterbox worth the $1050? Tried to google it to see if there are any local businesses that do this, but struggled to find one! TIA! The fill removal is price is quite reasonable. You can easily pay $800- 900 per load. Typical load is 23t. letterbox sounds fair if it includes a stainless steel letter box, footings, common bricks and acrylic render. yes it will be easy to remove the fill, but based on the price you are being quoted i think it will be hard to find a cheaper price hope this helps Hey SejaeD, Hope all is well. My lintel issue still remains unresolved. Builder has put it squarely on the engineer to make the call, am awaiting their latest response. In regards to topic at hand (letterbox); Just for others info, the letterbox that WL does, does supply all of the above, just just need to paint it yourself. This is a good time to make a note to everyone on this forum. Before signing the contract, check the structural drawings and or ask them to specify the size of the lintel over the garage and rear sliding door. It would see that Wisdom are specifying a 6mm thick lintel which doesnt have the strength to hold the weight of the bricks above, thus causing the bricks to sag and bow the sliding door. Lintels should be at least 10mm thick Obviously if you are using a lightweight cladding on the second floor 6mm is fine. hope this helps hope this helps Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9924Mar 22, 2018 1:22 pm ozmonkeyoy SejaeD ozmonkeyoy Hey SejaeD, Hope all is well. My lintel issue still remains unresolved. Builder has put it squarely on the engineer to make the call, am awaiting their latest response. In regards to topic at hand (letterbox); Just for others info, the letterbox that WL does, does supply all of the above, just just need to paint it yourself. Sorry to hear that the lintel issue is unresolved, honestly its really poor form. Let me think on it and see if I can come up with a suggestion. If that was on one of my construction sites i would make sure it was fixed. I dont need to tell you that its a major problem. With the render on the letterbox, is it possible to ask Wisdom to use an acrylic render so it wont need paint?? ie the colour is in the render. the application is the same so I am not sure why they cant do it Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. The crazy thing is, that there is very little cost difference and its the same trade that applies it. I genuinely wonder what their reasoning is?? Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9925Mar 22, 2018 1:23 pm ozmonkeyoy Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. Wow really. That sucks. They worded it with the words "colour to compliment dwelling". I can argue this with them if they refuse to colour the render. Plus her email confirms it as well. Thanks for your advice! Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9926Mar 22, 2018 1:28 pm ASJ1981 ozmonkeyoy Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. Wow really. That sucks. They worded it with the words "colour to compliment dwelling". I can argue this with them if they refuse to colour the render. Plus her email confirms it as well. Thanks for your advice! Anyway, my professional advice is that if you were to organise to build the letterbox yourself you would have to organise 3 trades, ie concreter for footings, bricklayer and renderer. As the job is so small it is often hard to find guys who want to do it. So for $1050, even if you have to paint it yourself its still a fairly good price. The mucking around you would need to do would probably cost you more. Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9927Mar 22, 2018 1:29 pm SejaeD ozmonkeyoy Hey SejaeD, Hope all is well. My lintel issue still remains unresolved. Builder has put it squarely on the engineer to make the call, am awaiting their latest response. In regards to topic at hand (letterbox); Just for others info, the letterbox that WL does, does supply all of the above, just just need to paint it yourself. This is a good time to make a note to everyone on this forum. Before signing the contract, check the structural drawings and or ask them to specify the size of the lintel over the garage and rear sliding door. It would see that Wisdom are specifying a 6mm thick lintel which doesnt have the strength to hold the weight of the bricks above, thus causing the bricks to sag and bow the sliding door. Lintels should be at least 10mm thick Obviously if you are using a lightweight cladding on the second floor 6mm is fine. hope this helps hope this helps Wisdom are using 10mm lintels for spans larger than 2700mm. On our span of 3600mm above alfresco stacker doors, they used the wrong lintel during build - 6mm only, which doesn't bear the weight. That's where my issue is which is causing a bowing effect. On our other 3600mm doors, they used the correct 10mm lintels. Now the builder's engineer is either going to sign off on it to be structurally sound, or is going to have it fixed. We are waiting to see what they do, however its pretty likely which way they will go.... (and we will have to engage our own experts.) Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9928Mar 22, 2018 1:31 pm SejaeD ASJ1981 ozmonkeyoy Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. Wow really. That sucks. They worded it with the words "colour to compliment dwelling". I can argue this with them if they refuse to colour the render. Plus her email confirms it as well. Thanks for your advice! Anyway, my professional advice is that if you were to organise to build the letterbox yourself you would have to organise 3 trades, ie concreter for footings, bricklayer and renderer. As the job is so small it is often hard to find guys who want to do it. So for $1050, even if you have to paint it yourself its still a fairly good price. The mucking around you would need to do would probably cost you more. oh and if anyone is finding that WL are too expensive and needs help finding a good landscaper or other trades, PM me Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9929Mar 22, 2018 1:32 pm ASJ1981 ozmonkeyoy Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. Wow really. That sucks. They worded it with the words "colour to compliment dwelling". I can argue this with them if they refuse to colour the render. Plus her email confirms it as well. Thanks for your advice! My initial landscape quote said exactly the same as yours, and we thought that paint was included. After the onsite consultation and final quote, this is what they offer; Letterbox Supply and install 470mm x 350mm x 1.2m masonry letterbox. Finish to be in cement render. No painting included. Our price was $960 ex GST. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9930Mar 22, 2018 1:33 pm SejaeD ASJ1981 ozmonkeyoy Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. Wow really. That sucks. They worded it with the words "colour to compliment dwelling". I can argue this with them if they refuse to colour the render. Plus her email confirms it as well. Thanks for your advice! Anyway, my professional advice is that if you were to organise to build the letterbox yourself you would have to organise 3 trades, ie concreter for footings, bricklayer and renderer. As the job is so small it is often hard to find guys who want to do it. So for $1050, even if you have to paint it yourself its still a fairly good price. The mucking around you would need to do would probably cost you more. Thank you sejaeD. I ended up adding the letterbox as well. Agree with what you said above. Definitely don't have time to be organising trades either, prefer it done and dusted for such a small job. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9931Mar 22, 2018 1:38 pm ozmonkeyoy ASJ1981 ozmonkeyoy Wisdom landscapes won't add colour to the render, refused to on ours. Maybe for additional $$$ only. Wow really. That sucks. They worded it with the words "colour to compliment dwelling". I can argue this with them if they refuse to colour the render. Plus her email confirms it as well. Thanks for your advice! My initial landscape quote said exactly the same as yours, and we thought that paint was included. After the onsite consultation and final quote, this is what they offer; Letterbox Supply and install 470mm x 350mm x 1.2m masonry letterbox. Finish to be in cement render. No painting included. Our price was $960 ex GST. The only explanation I can think of is that as the render they use is a cement based product, to save money they probably get the brick layer to mix up a batch whilst he is onsite and get him to skim coat it rather then getting a professional in. Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9932Mar 22, 2018 1:41 pm SejaeD ozmonkeyoy ASJ1981 Wow really. That sucks. They worded it with the words "colour to compliment dwelling". I can argue this with them if they refuse to colour the render. Plus her email confirms it as well. Thanks for your advice! My initial landscape quote said exactly the same as yours, and we thought that paint was included. After the onsite consultation and final quote, this is what they offer; Letterbox Supply and install 470mm x 350mm x 1.2m masonry letterbox. Finish to be in cement render. No painting included. Our price was $960 ex GST. The only explanation I can think of is that as the render they use is a cement based product, to save money they probably get the brick layer to mix up a batch whilst he is onsite and get him to skim coat it rather then getting a professional in. Not sure why they use cement render, but they brick up the letterbox one day and then a week later, bring another guy in to render it - so no idea of their logic. Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9933Mar 22, 2018 1:47 pm ozmonkeyoy SejaeD ozmonkeyoy Hey SejaeD, Hope all is well. My lintel issue still remains unresolved. Builder has put it squarely on the engineer to make the call, am awaiting their latest response. In regards to topic at hand (letterbox); Just for others info, the letterbox that WL does, does supply all of the above, just just need to paint it yourself. This is a good time to make a note to everyone on this forum. Before signing the contract, check the structural drawings and or ask them to specify the size of the lintel over the garage and rear sliding door. It would see that Wisdom are specifying a 6mm thick lintel which doesnt have the strength to hold the weight of the bricks above, thus causing the bricks to sag and bow the sliding door. Lintels should be at least 10mm thick Obviously if you are using a lightweight cladding on the second floor 6mm is fine. hope this helps hope this helps Wisdom are using 10mm lintels for spans larger than 2700mm. On our span of 3600mm above alfresco stacker doors, they used the wrong lintel during build - 6mm only, which doesn't bear the weight. That's where my issue is which is causing a bowing effect. On our other 3600mm doors, they used the correct 10mm lintels. Now the builder's engineer is either going to sign off on it to be structurally sound, or is going to have it fixed. We are waiting to see what they do, however its pretty likely which way they will go.... (and we will have to engage our own experts.) Oz two things: 1. I still maintain that anything over 2000 mm should be 10 mm, but I guess thats where they are saving money 2. if your other spans of 3,600 mm have 10mm then it should be obvious too them that the have made a mistake. how frustrating! Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9934Mar 22, 2018 1:50 pm SejaeD ozmonkeyoy Wisdom are using 10mm lintels for spans larger than 2700mm. On our span of 3600mm above alfresco stacker doors, they used the wrong lintel during build - 6mm only, which doesn't bear the weight. That's where my issue is which is causing a bowing effect. On our other 3600mm doors, they used the correct 10mm lintels. Now the builder's engineer is either going to sign off on it to be structurally sound, or is going to have it fixed. We are waiting to see what they do, however its pretty likely which way they will go.... (and we will have to engage our own experts.) Oz two things: 1. I still maintain that anything over 2000 mm should be 10 mm, but I guess thats where they are saving money 2. if your other spans of 3,600 mm have 10mm then it should be obvious too them that the have made a mistake. how frustrating! Exactly!!! Agreed. Trying to get it in writing and fixed is another story. We are just still waiting to see how it plays out... Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9935Mar 22, 2018 1:53 pm ozmonkeyoy SejaeD ozmonkeyoy Wisdom are using 10mm lintels for spans larger than 2700mm. On our span of 3600mm above alfresco stacker doors, they used the wrong lintel during build - 6mm only, which doesn't bear the weight. That's where my issue is which is causing a bowing effect. On our other 3600mm doors, they used the correct 10mm lintels. Now the builder's engineer is either going to sign off on it to be structurally sound, or is going to have it fixed. We are waiting to see what they do, however its pretty likely which way they will go.... (and we will have to engage our own experts.) Oz two things: 1. I still maintain that anything over 2000 mm should be 10 mm, but I guess thats where they are saving money 2. if your other spans of 3,600 mm have 10mm then it should be obvious too them that the have made a mistake. how frustrating! Exactly!!! Agreed. Trying to get it in writing and fixed is another story. We are just still waiting to see how it plays out... From a safety standpoint, I'd be tempted to hire some props to put in temporarily to stop it falling down further and injuring someone Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9936Mar 22, 2018 2:19 pm ASJ1981 Hi guys, Quick question. I'm about to submit and send off our Provisional Landscape Allowance. Planning to get Driveway done only and possibly Rendered Letterbox. There is an item for "Fill Removal x 2 Mixed Loads $1,450* - Site Prep x 1 and Driveway x 1. *Alternatively fill can be stockpiled for removal by owner. Total Cost is $2,900. Is it easy to remove after handover? Lastly, is the Rendered Letterbox worth the $1050? Tried to google it to see if there are any local businesses that do this, but struggled to find one! TIA! We were planning to get a rendered mailbox but I’m thinking I might just cut it back to our driveway now. I’ve found this mailbox which is half the price, looks better than the Bunnings ones everyone has, they do custom face plate and it holds parcels. http://www.deliver-eze.com.au/pillar/ Building Wisdom Aspiration 31 at Willowdale https://ourwillowdalehome.wordpress.com/ Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9937Mar 22, 2018 2:28 pm any idea how they are secured to the footings to stop them being stolen as they only weigh 24kg? Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9938Mar 22, 2018 2:48 pm Sorry guys, just another question. We have a Landscaping PA of 18k in our Tender. At the end panel stage when you get the final figure (to present to bank), do they use the 18k figure or the figure that we signed off on, on the Landscape Plan (comes to just under 10k)... I'm just a little confused because the Contract also says the "final quote will be established with an onsite consultation after construction has commenced".
Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9939Mar 22, 2018 3:31 pm ASJ1981 Sorry guys, just another question. We have a Landscaping PA of 18k in our Tender. At the end panel stage when you get the final figure (to present to bank), do they use the 18k figure or the figure that we signed off on, on the Landscape Plan (comes to just under 10k)... I'm just a little confused because the Contract also says the "final quote will be established with an onsite consultation after construction has commened". Building WH Manhattan 44 Ensuite Production Estimates: 13 Nov 2017 DA Approval : 25 October 2017 Contract Sign: 28 May 2017 Tender Sign: 24 April 2017 Request for Tender: 22 Jan 2017 Re: Building with Wisdom Homes 9940Mar 22, 2018 3:39 pm Wisdom will use the figure that you signed off from for your end panel Can someone please offer some advice? Im DESPERATE. Because I'm completely and utterly exhausted. How long are variations taking with other companies at the moment? We… 0 18473 In fairness nobody gave a crap about the ACCC and the gag clauses continued in the pro forma templates of a few other builders after the ACCC took on Wisdom, and more… 19 73525 Hi Everyone, I am exploring builder in NSW and received a very tempting quote from Wisdom home for their momentum series. I just want to know experience of building… 0 8242 |