Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 29, 2014 6:35 pm Hi All, I have a lot in Ropes crossing (Blacktown council, NSW). I have the provision to construct on ZERO boundary on one side of the LOT (Garage Side). Currently, I am in discussion with one of the builders to finalise the design. The builder advised that even though it is ZERO boundary LOT, still they need to leave some space to run underground pipes etc. and these has to stay in my LOT. They said, for this they need to leave say 250 mm space. If we leave this space we can’t have fence against the Garage Wall, as there is not enough space to install fencing. The garage wall will act as fence. Therefore this space will remain open to be used by neighbouring LOT. I understand that I can’t have anything on the neighbouring LOT. There won’t be any eves on the garage that hangs into the neighbouring LOT. If I leave any space as builder is advising, that will be like a bonus to my neighbour. My queries are:- 1. Is it really required to leave space in this scenario, OR the builder is just saying because they don’t want to change their drawings. As they have standard drawings. 2. If the space is required, is 250mm reasonable OR it is too much. Because I paid for that and leaving open for use by neighbour. 3. Any one came across this sort of scenarios and how handled. Appreciate your reply. Thanks, Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 2May 30, 2014 10:27 am Hi H4Harry, Yes I know about this scenario because I used to work at Ropes Crossing and had these sorts of conversations all the time. On a zero lot line lot you are permitted to build up to the boundary. It does depend on the builder exactly how much tolerance they leave. The usual range for tolerances is from about 50mm to about 200mm. This depends mostly on the gutter detail on top of the garage wall. Some builders put a gutter along that wall and so have the 200mm setback that allows the gutter to remain on your land. So in my experience (I worked at Ropes Crossing for 5 years) 250mm is a slightly larger setback than usual. Most builders wouldn't necessarily have pipes running down that side of the house. Also, you are correct that the garage wall acts as the fence and the side fence will start at the back of your garage. If your lot is located next to another Zero Lot on the other side then you will gain the advantage of the land on that neighbours side so it all evens out in the end. Good luck with it all and I hope you enjoy moving in to Ropes Crossing. Cheers, Jenny. Need hints, tips and inspiration? Join me on my Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ournewhomecoach Who am I? See my LinkedIn page: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jennifer-crawford/1a/429/296 Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 3May 30, 2014 12:24 pm Thanks Jenny, I appreciate your reply. Its my first post and I am glad to have so detailed and clear response. I am considering Allworth homes, and probably they don't want to do any changes to their standard structural plan, therefore saying for the 250 mm space. After your reply, I have more clarity on this scenario and I will have another discussion with Allworth and will see how much minimum space they can leave. Correct me if I am wrong. In my understanding, if the builder leaves say 250mm space, in that case, after the Garage wall ends, the fence will go out towards neighbouring LOT by 250 mm and run till the end of the LOT? Thanks again, Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 4May 30, 2014 12:31 pm We have that issue in our area. And - as the garage has the termite line on it - the question arises as to who checks for them if the neighbour uses a return on the garage to complete the fence between us. We can't see it unless we enter his property. I believe the best way is to use a return and make the garage wall part of the fence. Yes - you lose ground on one side - but you pick it up on the other. Then neighbours know there may be things in that 25cms bit of ground running alongside the garage so shouldn't start digging etc in it. I guess its sort of an honour system where I check for termites on my neighbours garage wall - and the guy on my left does it for me. But - I'd always do a check myself - with his permission - every now and then. Its an issue with zero boundaries - but you have to get along too. Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 5May 30, 2014 6:19 pm Hi we are currently building at Ropes Crossing and have a zero lot boundary. The fence was already up and next door to use wasn't a zero lot boundary and I wasn't prepared to give our neighbours some of our land! I had no idea there was going to be a gap until the slab was poured. I was really upset because I didn't want the fence up against our wall nor did I want a gap into our backyard but was managed to sort it out with the neighbours. We took down the part of the fence that was going to be up against our wall and we are going to place a small piece of fence where the gap is. Basically the neighbours' side-passage will be slightly wider in the part where our garage is. I hope that makes sense! Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 7Jun 02, 2014 3:27 pm Why not have the wall to the boundary and services running under the garage slab? Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 8Jun 02, 2014 11:33 pm Hi Harry, We are also having a zero lot at Schofields and we are planning to build with Allworths. Their standard setback for zero lot is 250mm. I think one of the rason is their eaves are normally 650mm whereas other builders normally ptovide eaves of 450mm. Also, Allworth are very flexible with plan and we have customised their standard design a lot and they are very transparent with the changes they are doing and the estimates they are provide for all the customisation we requested. Good Luck with your build. Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 9Aug 15, 2014 8:24 pm Hello eveyone, I am building with Allworth Homes too at Jordan Springs and I have a zero lot. There is a setback of 250mm as well. Problem with my one is that Allworth is only extending the garage to a zero lot and nothing else. Adjoining to the garage is Media, Bed4 which is a habitable room and needs to have a window, hence they are not extending these two rooms. Any help ? Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 10Aug 18, 2014 3:19 pm Hi Shiritha, I am building with AllWorhts in stage 2 at the avenue schofields. Are you building in stage 2? We are having Harmony Entertainer plan with our modification on it. How about you? Its good to see someone is building with Allworths at The avenue schofields. Thanks, shiritha Hi Harry, We are also having a zero lot at Schofields and we are planning to build with Allworths. Their standard setback for zero lot is 250mm. I think one of the rason is their eaves are normally 650mm whereas other builders normally ptovide eaves of 450mm. Also, Allworth are very flexible with plan and we have customised their standard design a lot and they are very transparent with the changes they are doing and the estimates they are provide for all the customisation we requested. Good Luck with your build. Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 11Oct 27, 2016 7:05 pm Hi every1 , can someone tell me about the rule how deep u can build your groundfloor on zero side boundry?do u have to go 1metre in after garage or u have to go in 1m after 12metre?please help anyone Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 12Nov 30, 2016 6:45 am Hi are you building on the boundary? I am building on zero lot. I need to have at least 1.2m on one side My blog: http://thesmallhousestruggle.blogspot.com.au/?m=1 Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 13Nov 30, 2016 6:45 am Not too sure on how deep you can go though My blog: http://thesmallhousestruggle.blogspot.com.au/?m=1 Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 14Nov 30, 2016 8:15 am Hmm, this is an interesting discussion. My neighbor and I both have garages on the zero lot, so we won't be able to put a fence between them, but I've actually no idea if they or I get more space once the fence does go up..they have more zero lot that me towards the back (they included the laundry). Re: Construction on Zero boundary lot 15Nov 30, 2016 9:33 am This is my zero lot boundary Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ As you can see, my garage wall acts as a "fence" for the neighbour. Their gate return stops at my garage wall. The dividing fence then starts from the rear of the garage and continues down and is literally on the boundary. Same as other side, I gain a little space from the neighbour on the other side and their garage wall is the fence. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Coral Homes Avoca 25 in Gainsborough Greens Gold Coast Viewtopic.php?f=31&t=81406 You must be new to the internet. You're also the only person anyone here has ever heard of washing their garage wall. I hate to break it to you, there are insects and… 6 4844 I am building in claymore NSW and this is shown in the building envelope plan. … 0 10034 Building Standards; Getting It Right! Hi everyone, My lot has just been titled and during the settlement we found that the rear pegs were not visible. We requested for a re-establishment and pegging plan… 0 18934 |