Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Building my first house 5May 27, 2014 8:50 pm Welcome to Wantirna South! Its a great area. Have u brought in Harcrest? Have u asked anyone how much their site costs are in your area? Site costs can affect the cost of build quite considerably. My friend built in the ranges Croydon 2 years ago and her site cost was $40k... there goes a lot of upgrades lol. Also if u brought in a new estate then there are usually estate guidelines to follow which might add more onto your cost as well... what about energy efficient does the plan comply with 6 star? If not they have to upgrade things to ensure it does and that can mean more money as well... not sure about builders though. Also consider your house sitting. Most people prefer the afternoon sun coming in to the living room (so back of house should ideally be facing north). Anyways lots of research and visit lots of builders. Try berwick waters they just recently opened their display centres and their like 10 different builders on display or more! Or even selendra rise also good thats where we saw henley and fell in love!!!! Good luck Second Build, this time with Carlisle 2016, can't wait! Beckham: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=67280 Canterbury: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=81175 Re: Building my first house 6May 28, 2014 10:57 am Thanks Pearz and Saint Mike, I am starting to look at a few designs. Have looked at PD, BURBANK, SIMONDS designs, They all start at around $240 and go up to $300k. What is the room for negotiation guys? Say a builder quotes me all up inclusive all additions and allowance and site costs around $300k... Can I tell him that I have only $285 and get them to honor everything to $285? I am in Sales as well. and we are open to negotiations.. But just want to know how much of a buffer or what is reasonable amount to be negotiated. and once again thank you so much for these answers. This is a wealth of information that is soo useful to new and inexperienced kids like me who are dreaming about building their new homes. Re: Building my first house 7May 28, 2014 11:58 am Chef_Shazam Thanks Pearz and Saint Mike, I am starting to look at a few designs. Have looked at PD, BURBANK, SIMONDS designs, They all start at around $240 and go up to $300k. What is the room for negotiation guys? Say a builder quotes me all up inclusive all additions and allowance and site costs around $300k... Can I tell him that I have only $285 and get them to honor everything to $285? I am in Sales as well. and we are open to negotiations.. But just want to know how much of a buffer or what is reasonable amount to be negotiated. and once again thank you so much for these answers. This is a wealth of information that is soo useful to new and inexperienced kids like me who are dreaming about building their new homes. the only real way to negotiate on most of the pricess with builders on inclusions is to know what the retail price is - EG you know the retail price of your 900m cooker is 2000, and the builde ris charging 2500. You can ask why they are charging above retail given they are already making margin when thet bought heaps of them for the homes theyre building. But given the number of items in a house that could be treated this way, you'll drive yourself crazy. Builders rarely negotiate on thei rmargins, so just because in one industry sales prices are negotiable, doesnt mean they will be in another. Know your retail value, do your sums in your head, and just ask for a better price. It never hurts to ask. The best place to try and save cash on is your heating/cooling - you'll save 3-6k doing it after hand over, floors also. BUT -I cant see putting a house on your size block (294sqm) for 300k as likley unless youre looking at optioning up everything with gold. If i could give you a timless piece of advice - dont overcapitalise on your construction. Chose the important stuff, make some compromises, and dont go overboard. It wont be the last house you build. Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Building my first house 8May 28, 2014 12:55 pm Welcome! I'm not from Vic, but am now looking to build again in QLD and am also looking for a great value double story. My partner and I are investigating Plantation Homes (Henley in VIC) and the below plan may suit your block and requirements? The base price is $227,900.00, and the base inclusions are of quite a good standard. The standard facade (broadway) is also very nice and may only require render to front and 1 or 2 additional materials to meet covenant. So if you add provisions for site costs up to a H or H2 slab minimum, timber/carpet and tiles, air con, driveway, fencing and landscaping, any state energy and covenant requirements and don't go crazy on the upgrades you may well come away with a quote under $285k. My suggestion would be perhaps don't ask for a price "as per display" as this can include many things that are not of value to you or your lifestyle and will potentially lead to over capitalising. Also try not to get caught up in the extras that everyone else might have! Choose the upgrades that will add value to you, and your lifestyle, without over spending for your area and your budget. http://www.henley.com.au/find-a-home/co ... urn-series Good luck!! 2014 - Prepping to build the Soho 4 with Plantation homes, industrial style 2009 - Built the Brampton with Coral Homes viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15399&start=280 Re: Building my first house 9May 28, 2014 4:31 pm Im almost certain there would be cheaper Double Storey homes. You may just have to settle for base inclusions and not all the fancy stuff. Our single storey has all the bells and whistles and is costing us about 250, So i cant see how a smaller framed double storey would cost 300k! But unfortunately with bigger companies there is not much room for wiggle, they have large overheads and although maybe able to save you a few thousand here and there, wiping of 10's of thousands probably isn't achievable The idea of looking at the RRP of prices is good, but remember they are never going to just charge you Recommended Retail for everything - if that was the case you'd have a block covered in materials and no one to put it all together! Remember for every small item there is costs that most people wouldnt think about (you being in sales you'd understand) Theres install, delivery, labour, profit margins etc etc. So a $100 item turns into a $350 item pretty fast! Do your best at deciding what you NEED and what you WANT and do your research and you will be fine! Re: Building my first house 10Jun 04, 2014 3:54 pm We are going to be building at Harcrest in Wantirna South too, our lot size is 10m x 28.5m. There are only handful of double story houses that can be built due to the narrow width. We decided to go with the Metro 32 with Metricon, as it covered all of our needs (4 bed, big kitchen, walk in pantry, spacious living area). There were a few cheaper options, but by the time we added the upgrades/extensions we wanted, they were working out similar to the Metro 32 house. We also looked at PD for Granada and Burbank for Jameson. Hope this helps. Re: Building my first house 11Oct 20, 2014 9:42 pm Hey just wondering what you ended up choosing ? We were in the same boat, I've always wanted a double story & with how small the land lots are these days it meant we could have a nice size backyard compared to other builds we've seen where they have no space at all. We found most builders way to expensive for budget or the house plans didn't suit what we would be happy with & only 3 bedrooms which I didn't want. We ended up finding the fairhaven Bridgewater range & got a 4 bedroom DS for I think it was 236 all up. If the eaves are fixed first, the eaves line is about 250 mm below the top plate of wall frame. If the cladding ie hebel stops just under the eave line, then that means… 2 41063 hi guys. Please be nice. First time home builder in Qld. 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