Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 24, 2014 9:32 am Hi,
We are currently building a single level 37 sq house. The standard ceiling height is 2.4m & we have requested this to be increased to 2.7m. We have been advised that this will cost just under 12k. This seems excessive to me going by other threads - do they need to justify this or is it just a case with builders that it is what it is. Thanks Lou Sorry we are building a brick veneer that would help!! Building in Sydney with a tiled roof Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 2May 24, 2014 9:42 am Where are you building and what materials are you building with. Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 4May 24, 2014 10:37 am In a house that size look at it this way, these figures are rough. 1200 extra bricks 30sqm of render ? Approx 15 window/door steel lintels 100sqm plaster board 120 lm of wall stud 15 lm of threaded rod 10 SqM ply brace As you can see there's a lot of extra material that goes into raising your cieling by 300mm. Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 5May 24, 2014 10:45 am mgilla Approx 15 window/door steel lintels Forgive the ignorance but are the steel lintels needed because there we are assuming the OP has a brick house with a tiled roof? Or are they mandatory for 2.7m ceilings regardless of construction type ie weatherboard and Colourbond roof? If they are mandatory, when are they put in? After the frame has gone up? Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 7May 24, 2014 12:45 pm Quote: Forgive the ignorance but are the steel lintels needed because there we are assuming the OP has a brick house with a tiled roof? Or are they mandatory for 2.7m ceilings regardless of construction type ie weatherboard and Colourbond roof? If they are mandatory, when are they put in? After the frame has gone up? As per what mgilla is saying, if you lift the whole roof 300mm without changing the window and door heights you end up with 300mm ( roughly ) of external brickwork above these windows that need supporting. Below is a standard project home with 2400mm ceilings, 450mm eaves and 2150mm window head height meaning no brickwork over those openings. Lift the roof 300mm and you have brickwork there as well. Stewie Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 8May 24, 2014 1:40 pm Yes but I am also being charged separately to have brick infills above all windows & doors. They have only quoted for above 2 doors which will be an extra $500 (their stuff up for not doing the whole house) but as we have another 9 windows & doors I am imagining that this will be another couple of 1000 so all up it will be around 15k Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 9May 24, 2014 1:47 pm KGsGirl We building a baby 21sq and the cost to go to 2.7m was around 2.5k This is what has me stumped going by this if I double it 42sq = 5k with brick infills we are going to come in at 3 times this price. So annoying I love the house design we have picked but feel like our builder is ripping us off at times. They are supplying a HWS & we want to change it to an instantaneous I have priced them both & they retail for a similar price $150 difference but the builder has told me this will cost $1600 to change. Grrr Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 10May 24, 2014 2:17 pm LouR KGsGirl We building a baby 21sq and the cost to go to 2.7m was around 2.5k This is what has me stumped going by this if I double it 42sq = 5k with brick infills we are going to come in at 3 times this price. So annoying I love the house design we have picked but feel like our builder is ripping us off at times. They are supplying a HWS & we want to change it to an instantaneous I have priced them both & they retail for a similar price $150 difference but the builder has told me this will cost $1600 to change. Grrr We have been extremely lucky that we went with a smaller boutique builder who doesn't over charge us for upgrades. Researching a build in South Australia from Sydney. Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 11May 24, 2014 2:44 pm KGsGirl We have been extremely lucky that we went with a smaller boutique builder who doesn't over charge us for upgrades. To be fair to the high-volume builders, your low-volume builder isn't getting "standard stuff" at anywhere as near a huge discount as the volume guys. So if your builder changes from one thing to another, it only costs them a bit extra; if a volume builder is getting a $500 discount on Widget A and they're paying full retail for Widget B and Widget B costs $50 extra than Widget A at retail, then if the home-owner wants Widget B the volume builder has to charge an extra $550 and the home-owner says "hey WTF we're being ripped off at 11x the price 'cos I can buy Widget B for only $50 more than Widget A!". Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 12May 24, 2014 3:53 pm Forg KGsGirl We have been extremely lucky that we went with a smaller boutique builder who doesn't over charge us for upgrades. To be fair to the high-volume builders, your low-volume builder isn't getting "standard stuff" at anywhere as near a huge discount as the volume guys. So if your builder changes from one thing to another, it only costs them a bit extra; if a volume builder is getting a $500 discount on Widget A and they're paying full retail for Widget B and Widget B costs $50 extra than Widget A at retail, then if the home-owner wants Widget B the volume builder has to charge an extra $550 and the home-owner says "hey WTF we're being ripped off at 11x the price 'cos I can buy Widget B for only $50 more than Widget A!". Possibly, but comparing prices to neigbours building similar houses and inclusions we are still in front so far. I'm not saying all volume builders over charge and all non volume builders are cheap, I'm just saying we were personally lucky to strike gold with our builders. Researching a build in South Australia from Sydney. Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 13May 24, 2014 4:23 pm Forg KGsGirl We have been extremely lucky that we went with a smaller boutique builder who doesn't over charge us for upgrades. To be fair to the high-volume builders, your low-volume builder isn't getting "standard stuff" at anywhere as near a huge discount as the volume guys. So if your builder changes from one thing to another, it only costs them a bit extra; if a volume builder is getting a $500 discount on Widget A and they're paying full retail for Widget B and Widget B costs $50 extra than Widget A at retail, then if the home-owner wants Widget B the volume builder has to charge an extra $550 and the home-owner says "hey WTF we're being ripped off at 11x the price 'cos I can buy Widget B for only $50 more than Widget A!". That is exactly how it works, couldn't have explained that any better, ever. And remember, your high volume project builders want you to make changes, thats where they make there cream. Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 14May 24, 2014 6:21 pm When I was getting quotes, $12,000 was about the mark. $22,000 if you wanted to go 2.4 to 3.0m. House is 300m2. Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 15May 24, 2014 8:41 pm Forg KGsGirl We have been extremely lucky that we went with a smaller boutique builder who doesn't over charge us for upgrades. To be fair to the high-volume builders, your low-volume builder isn't getting "standard stuff" at anywhere as near a huge discount as the volume guys. So if your builder changes from one thing to another, it only costs them a bit extra; if a volume builder is getting a $500 discount on Widget A and they're paying full retail for Widget B and Widget B costs $50 extra than Widget A at retail, then if the home-owner wants Widget B the volume builder has to charge an extra $550 and the home-owner says "hey WTF we're being ripped off at 11x the price 'cos I can buy Widget B for only $50 more than Widget A!". This makes sense. I guess I am just getting frustrated as I am getting charged the retail of widget b with seemingly no credit for widget a!! I have now asked them that they need to demonstrate the cost & credit for substitutions which they are not particularly happy with but if they want my business they will need to do it I guess. Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 16May 24, 2014 8:54 pm Building the Dream When I was getting quotes, $12,000 was about the mark. $22,000 if you wanted to go 2.4 to 3.0m. House is 300m2. I guess most are unhappy about paying extra! From the messages I have received it seems about right. If you can get it cheaper run with it Re: The cost of increasing ceiling heights 18May 25, 2014 12:11 am I cant remember but my house to go to 32c was 12K for the top floor and about the same for the ground but the ground is split level with 38c. Eye watering amounts for me were stepped ceilings which they are charing about 4.5K per room. It does your head in...... Building Standards; Getting It Right! 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