Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Nov 05, 2019 2:40 pm Hello Friends: We had a final inspection and we noticed that all the internal and external door edges (top and bottom) are not painted at all or some of the painted badly (very rough with splinters seen on the edges) with which has all the open holes in them. I brought it up with the SS during the meeting, requested that these edges need to be painted with good finish (since this what I got when I built all my previous house). I told him that this would "unpainted edges would absorb unwanted moisture". However, I was told "I am being unreasonable", for asking this and there is no QBCC standards that suggest this is a requirement to paint the door edges. He also told me to go and complain to QBCC since this cannot be done or won't be addressed. We are quite disappointed, that though I've seen that in a friend's places that have been recently built has the job well done, and also noticed this in display homes the door edges are all well painted. QBCC standards guide suggest the following: " 9.6 Sealing of door edges Within the first 12 months from completion of the work, door leaves are defective if they do not have all sides, top and bottom edges sealed in accordance with manufacturer’s recommendations. " All doors used for our home Haymes. I'm unable to find the warranty information and any recommendation from the Haymes on how the door needs to be painted. Please advise on how to handle this situation. Cheers Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Door edges unpainted 2Nov 05, 2019 2:54 pm Sorry, the door are corinthian and the paint is haymes. " FINISHING (PAINTING AND SEALING)All Corinthian Doors are supplied unfinished and need to be finished, painted or sealed. Timber is a natural product that is greatly affected by changes in moisture. This change in moisture will cause the timber to warp, crack or in some cases rot. Unprotected timber can physically deteriorate if exposed to extremes of atmospheric change over a period of time. All timber products should be painted, sealed or finished before being installed to help protect them from changes in moisture - regardless of whether they are being used inside or outside.The entire door should be painted immediately after fitting and before hanging; this includes behind the hinges, and lock and most importantly, you should always paint the top and bottom edges. Always follow the paint manufacturer’s instructions on the number of coats required. The top, bottom and sides of the door need to receive the same number of coats as the door face. Trials have shown that doors with the correct number of coats of painting or finish(as per the paint manufacturer’s recommendations) outlast and perform better than those not finished adequately. " https://www.corinthian.com.au/-/media/F ... C871530FCC Please advise on how to get this resolved, its urgent. Re: Door edges unpainted 3Nov 05, 2019 10:33 pm Hmm its one of those things that most tradies would assume homeowners wouldnt check. TBH I didnt paint top or bottoms of my doors when I was painting my interior doors in my own home in the past... Ask for them to be painted, and go from there Re: Door edges unpainted 4Nov 06, 2019 12:24 am The internal doors aren't really a huge issue. In the wet areas it's not a bad thing to do but unless they are exposed to lots of damp they are normally fine. The holes in the top and bottom are vents and are designed to be open. The external doors though are a different kettle of fish. You should absolutely paint them. When I hang an external door I always paint underneath and behind the hinges and locks. I carry a primer/sealer and disposable brushes to do it as I know that painters won't do it. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Door edges unpainted 5Nov 06, 2019 6:32 am chippy The internal doors aren't really a huge issue. In the wet areas it's not a bad thing to do but unless they are exposed to lots of damp they are normally fine. The holes in the top and bottom are vents and are designed to be open. The external doors though are a different kettle of fish. You should absolutely paint them. When I hang an external door I always paint underneath and behind the hinges and locks. I carry a primer/sealer and disposable brushes to do it as I know that painters won't do it. Sorry chippy, but I disagree with this in regards to internal doors. All doors should be sealed. I've had a couple warranty claims in the past (solid and hollow core) where doors have bowed. The manufacturer has come out to inspect, and the first thing they check with their viewing mirror is if the doors have been sealed. Wet area or not, a house internally can be subject to large changes in humidity. E.g. humid day in summer and the house is left open, or the house is shut up and the AC is on (humidity removed due to condensation on AC coils). These two examples are from either end of the spectrum, where one has a lot of moisture content in the air, the other not. Regardless of what they say is normal and reasonable, they have no grounds to go against the manufacturers recommendation. Plus, your warranty is void if the doors bow. Re: Door edges unpainted 6Nov 06, 2019 7:09 am chippy The internal doors aren't really a huge issue. In the wet areas it's not a bad thing to do but unless they are exposed to lots of damp they are normally fine. The holes in the top and bottom are vents and are designed to be open. The external doors though are a different kettle of fish. You should absolutely paint them. When I hang an external door I always paint underneath and behind the hinges and locks. I carry a primer/sealer and disposable brushes to do it as I know that painters won't do it. Hi Chippy, we have ceramic tails and have the floors mopped regularly, which potentially leaves the underside/bottom edge of the door to absorb a lot of moisture. The point is when we are paying the builder to do their job properly, I'm sad why they are making us beg for what we've paid for. The industry needs better regulations. Re: Door edges unpainted 7Nov 06, 2019 7:22 am The industry also needs better customers that engage in the process and don’t accept unfair contracts, poor workmanship or woeful customer service! Unfortunately it’s up to consumers because the governments have been afraid to effectively regulate volume builders due to the economic and political risks. I appreciate your sharing and engagement. Re: Door edges unpainted 8Nov 06, 2019 7:38 am Norfolk I would tend to agree with you, but how does someone who is building for the first time, know if the contract is fair or unfair. The onus cannot be put on the customer since this is a standard HIA contract, still being exploited. People are desperate to have a roof over their heads which is fair. Re: Door edges unpainted 9Nov 06, 2019 7:44 am brightstarshine I was naive like you with my recent Metricon build. I thought I just sign the contact, pay the money, leave it to them and walk into my ‘display home’ in 40 weeks time. I I learnt the nature of the industry the hard and expensive way. That’s just not how it works. However, Now the industry has cooled, buyers have significantly more negotiating power and should leverage this assertively at pre contract stage with volume builders. Many volume builders sales are down 20% to 30% versus last year and they are now desperately competing for new customers. Everything is negotiable, including the unfair HIA contract template and special terms that can add security and value for customers. We recently had some good discussion in this forum about negotiating with Wisdom Homes in NSW for example. Engage in the planning and build process and check all workmanship weekly. The volume builders don’t do this because it’s expensive skilled labour and they are protected by the contract and lack of effective regulation. Make progress payments only when it’s confirmed the workmanship at each stage is acceptable... Thanks for your thoughts. Do you feel your louvre sidelite security mesh is safe? 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