Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Feb 11, 2014 4:56 pm Hi All, Ive found another block of land i am interested in (yes another battleaxe, im a sucker for punishment). The only issue is the Power Pole on the street is about 30cms into the driveway of the battleaxe entrance and im unsure what i can do about it? Im not even sure if it would interfere with a car driving up? Can the power pole be relocated? what options do i have? Do i pass up this property based on this? Thanks Balk Re: Power Pole on the Street 5Feb 11, 2014 7:28 pm Judging by the age of the pole I'd say its been there quite a while and being "in the game" it will cost a lot of money to relocate the pole due to the outage and vehicles/manpower required to do this. Most developers had to pay to move these structures before shire/councils would sign off on the subdivision of land or blocks. An expensive process to go through and definitely not a quick fix also. ______________________ CELERBRATION HOMES The Lennox Re: Power Pole on the Street 6Feb 11, 2014 8:50 pm Liney Judging by the age of the pole I'd say its been there quite a while and being "in the game" it will cost a lot of money to relocate the pole due to the outage and vehicles/manpower required to do this. Most developers had to pay to move these structures before shire/councils would sign off on the subdivision of land or blocks. An expensive process to go through and definitely not a quick fix also. Hi Liney, Thanks for your reply, I am a little confused as to how a council approved a subdivision of land with the utilities pole being in the middle of a driveway. Is it worth emailing the local council to seek advise? Slightly frustrated at the moment hehe Thanks Balk Re: Power Pole on the Street 7Feb 11, 2014 9:18 pm Firstly the council may see the paperwork showing the pole is to the side of the driveway without it actually being on the side and then you need to go and contact the utility owner to ask if they will move it and/ or how much$ it will cost. Not sure where you're posting from but it's hard to contact the correct department to get answers and not get fobbed off. If you really love the block then plan to make a few phone calls and emails and wait a while for replys. Good luck. ______________________ CELERBRATION HOMES The Lennox Re: Power Pole on the Street 8Feb 11, 2014 9:29 pm maybe just the photos, but it does not appear to be in the middle of the driveway. I'm assuming the block of interest is the one with the fancy iron gates, how wide are the gates ? Do you have any room at all beyond the right gate hinge ? I'm goind to take a guess here, and say that this pole was not the original one that was there all those years ago, and judging by the shape of the road, I reckon it's been the site of a traffic accident at some stage, resulting in the old post having to be replaced, and this newer one has been put in maybe a metre further down the road, putting it now on the driveway. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Power Pole on the Street 9Feb 12, 2014 6:51 am [quote="bpratt"]maybe just the photos, but it does not appear to be in the middle of the driveway. I'm assuming the block of interest is the one with the fancy iron gates, how wide are the gates ? Do you have any room at all beyond the right gate hinge ? I'm goind to take a guess here, and say that this pole was not the original one that was there all those years ago, and judging by the shape of the road, I reckon it's been the site of a traffic accident at some stage, resulting in the old post having to be replaced, and this newer one has been put in maybe a metre further down the road, putting it now on the driveway. /quote] I've checked google maps and it's a lot clearer on there. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I assume it's been like this for a while because google maps last update was over 4 years ago. From the google maps image it shows it's pretty much smack in the middle of the driveway. I might have to make a few calls / send a few emails Thanks for the reply Re: Power Pole on the Street 10Feb 12, 2014 8:39 am oh crap, that really is in the way... the other photos didn't show it as bad. I really reckon I'm right that it has been replaced due to traffic accident at some stage, albeit many years ago, and the priority back then was getting the power back on to the area, rather than ensuring it wasn't placed smack bang in the middle of a driveway. Back when it was replaced as I'm guessing, there may have been no indication at all that there was a battleaxe block driveway in that location, i.e. no fences or gates. Not too sure who to contact, but it might pay to find out if and when there was a replacement done, i.e. find out when the accident was, and hopefully the original pole position, as then I believe you might have some justification in getting it moved back about 2 metres. You might want to suggest that if it was moved back 2 metres, it would create less of a traffic hazard, being that it would be further back from the corner, nearer the straighter section of road. As far as google maps/earth is concerned, you might not be going back far enough in google earth. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Power Pole on the Street 11Feb 12, 2014 8:46 am Maybe there could be another "accident" wink wink. Would be cheaper! lol Re: Power Pole on the Street 12Feb 12, 2014 9:54 am joshnjacqui Maybe there could be another "accident" wink wink. Would be cheaper! lol I realise that was said in jest, but it would've been a big one to take a pole out. If you wait several more years, chances are is that some other hoon will hit the power pole sufficiently hard enough to need it being replaced. Of course all of this is just talk, as the OP hasn't even bought the block yet, just looking for guidance as to the effort required to have the pole moved. I'm guessing the reinforcement is possibly because someone else has hit the pole or the pole is fatigued and may be due for replacement even! If the OP is really keen on the block, then they should contact the energy supplier for that area to see about having it moved, but to point out that moving it back 2 metres could put it less 'in the line of fire' for cars, and that it really looks like it should be replaced because of the reinforcement given to it. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Power Pole on the Street 13Feb 12, 2014 10:19 am bpratt joshnjacqui Maybe there could be another "accident" wink wink. Would be cheaper! lol I realise that was said in jest, but it would've been a big one to take a pole out. If you wait several more years, chances are is that some other hoon will hit the power pole sufficiently hard enough to need it being replaced. Of course all of this is just talk, as the OP hasn't even bought the block yet, just looking for guidance as to the effort required to have the pole moved. I'm guessing the reinforcement is possibly because someone else has hit the pole or the pole is fatigued and may be due for replacement even! If the OP is really keen on the block, then they should contact the energy supplier for that area to see about having it moved, but to point out that moving it back 2 metres could put it less 'in the line of fire' for cars, and that it really looks like it should be replaced because of the reinforcement given to it. Hi, Spoke to the agent who advised the vendor is not willing to Organise the move of the pole or drop the price as the property is being sold as is. Endevor energy has said I could Organise a relocation but tang would be at my expense. Not looking good at all Re: Power Pole on the Street 14Feb 12, 2014 10:34 am Balk Spoke to the agent who advised the vendor is not willing to Organise the move of the pole or drop the price as the property is being sold as is. Endevor energy has said I could Organise a relocation but tang would be at my expense. Not looking good at all No, it is not looking good at all. Sounds vaguely like the vendor wasn't able to get the pole moved without paying for it, and has decided to sell because the block is worthless to build on if he can't get access to it, particulary for concrete trucks to do a slab or whatever. Perhaps if you are really keen, and it really sounds like you are, you could contact the local state MP and councillor to approach Endeavour on your behalf, but I'd first do some research to see if there had been a traffic accident that caused the pole to be moved down across the driveway, and the stupidity of the relocation on to the driveway. Reminding them that it has now put the pole in a more dangerous location in relation to that corner being rated at 45km/h as per the sign on that power pole. For road safety reasons that pole should be relocated 2 metres further back from the corner. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Power Pole on the Street 15Feb 13, 2014 5:12 am Balk bpratt joshnjacqui Maybe there could be another "accident" wink wink. Would be cheaper! lol I realise that was said in jest, but it would've been a big one to take a pole out. If you wait several more years, chances are is that some other hoon will hit the power pole sufficiently hard enough to need it being replaced. Of course all of this is just talk, as the OP hasn't even bought the block yet, just looking for guidance as to the effort required to have the pole moved. I'm guessing the reinforcement is possibly because someone else has hit the pole or the pole is fatigued and may be due for replacement even! If the OP is really keen on the block, then they should contact the energy supplier for that area to see about having it moved, but to point out that moving it back 2 metres could put it less 'in the line of fire' for cars, and that it really looks like it should be replaced because of the reinforcement given to it. Hi, Spoke to the agent who advised the vendor is not willing to Organise the move of the pole or drop the price as the property is being sold as is. Endevor energy has said I could Organise a relocation but tang would be at my expense. Not looking good at all Do you know if the agent even put this to the vendor? I'd just put in an offer for what the land is worth less the cost of moving the pole. You don't really want to pay more than this anyway plus its not as if battleaxe blocks are popular. Also you never really know the vendors real situation maybe they are desperate to sell. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: Power Pole on the Street 16Feb 14, 2014 10:53 am I would be checking with council to see if you can even get a crossover approved with the pole encroaching on the space. From the ramped vs box curbing in the various pictures, you may be able to get council to show the curbing (and crossover planning) was done prior to the pole installation, meaning the energy company is liable for the move costs. The energy company will deny all liability unless you prove it was their mistake - I had similar issues with Sydney Water and a private pole, but won out in the end. Hi Mrboh Just wondering if you have any BAL or flame zone issues on your block, as getting compliance with BAL requirements whilst doing bearers and joists is tough. Not… 1 8380 Hi all. 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