Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jan 15, 2014 2:48 pm Hi All, Wondering if anyone can help me with a question I have regarding wet areas (bathrooms, toilets, laundry). I have built before, and in my previous house the slab where all of the wet areas were was dropped slightly and not smooth like the rest of the slab, i assume this was so the tiler could come along and screed the floor to get the right slope for drainage and waterproofing, in case of flooding. This hasn't been done in my new place (apart from exactly where the shower is) the areas are just smooth like the rest of the slab and not dropped and I'm just a little worried the tiler wont be able to get the correct level for water to flow to the drain should the place ever flood. and also how will they be able to waterproof? If anyone has any knowledge in this matter could you let me know, I'd like to know what I'm talking about before asking the site supervisor. TIA Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 2Jan 15, 2014 2:51 pm Hi Cam Some builders use a system where they don't screed the bathrooms etc but direct stick the tiles. From memory its the redink, residential 101 group that direct stick, but if you are concerned you can always ask your ss anyway Cheers <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=62083">viewtopic.php?t=62083</a><!-- l --> Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 3Jan 15, 2014 2:54 pm We have the same thing. Our tiler still did screeding and it looks like he got a good fall. Though haven't tested with water yet. I asked him about it and was told a lot of builders are doing it like this now Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 4Jan 15, 2014 2:58 pm Hi AKB, So using this method they can still get the correct slope on the tiling towards the drain? I'll have to chat with the SS anyway about it as I am having smart tile (Bermuda) drains and I would have thought they would have had to drop the slab just to fit them in as they are quite big, definitely thicker than tile thickness Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 5Jan 15, 2014 3:01 pm I think ours was smooth. We had one issue - we heard they liked to put the tiles in the shower on a diagonal - to help with the flow of water to the outlet. I gather its makes it easier for the tiler. when we asked we got a sheepish look and they said - on no - we were going to ask first. So we stated very clearly we wanted the tiles in the wet areas to be all square on and within reason matching the wall tiles - we have floor to ceiling tiles in wet areas and toilets. Apparently some tilers claim it is the right thing to do to put the tiles in the shower on the angle - ie diagonal - not square on. Hope that makes sense. Just tell the builder/SS/Tiler you want the floor tiles in the shower etc to match the rest in the bathroom - if you do that is ... I'd never heard of this before but was told a few tilers do do it. Not sure our bloke would have - but his reaction sort of confirmed it. I always find it amazing they do these things - when the display house never does. Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 6Jan 15, 2014 3:01 pm Oh - our flow/drainage is perfect. (We also made sure we got rid of the proposed hobs and got flat floors for the showers. Less edges to crack and looks much better). Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 7Jan 15, 2014 3:03 pm Yeah we couldn't do the Bermuda tile Inserts. We could do them in the shower Because the tiler said he could dig them in. Had to put normal drains elsewhere. Though I know some other people who had them done everywhere - so might depend on you're tiler Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 8Jan 15, 2014 3:07 pm asj25 Yeah we couldn't do the Bermuda tile Inserts. We could do them in the shower Because the tiler said he could dig them in. Had to put normal drains elsewhere. Though I know some other people who had them done everywhere - so might depend on you're tiler I have a feeling our shower areas were slightly lower than the rest of the floor. Although you can't tell now - after tiling and screens installed. Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 9Jan 15, 2014 3:20 pm asj25, that's what I'm worried about, I'm sure they will be able to do the Bermuda drains in the showers but the showers are dropped, its everywhere else that will be the problem..... Its in my contract to have them so i suppose they have to do it don't they? was it in your contract or was that something you just asked the tiler to put in? Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 10Jan 15, 2014 4:25 pm AKB We are with Redink Southwest and our wet areas are rough and bit lower so I presume they will screed floors prior to tiling. Maybe because we have Bermuda waste drains. Building in Myalup with Redink PCQ : Nov 2012 Prestart: 17 th March 2013 Builders Permit: Sept 2013 Completed build Aug 2014 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=67559 Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 11Jan 15, 2014 4:26 pm Cam080 asj25, that's what I'm worried about, I'm sure they will be able to do the Bermuda drains in the showers but the showers are dropped, its everywhere else that will be the problem..... Its in my contract to have them so i suppose they have to do it don't they? was it in your contract or was that something you just asked the tiler to put in? We did our own tiling. I believe kat who built with redink got the drains everywhere without dropped wet areas Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 13Jan 15, 2014 4:48 pm I think kat also did own tiling. We both went through redink and sourced own tiling. Mine didnt do it, hers did. I didnt push mine as it was a friend doing it and I felt mean making him cut into the slab haha Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 14Jan 15, 2014 4:49 pm jibs AKB We are with Redink Southwest and our wet areas are rough and bit lower so I presume they will screed floors prior to tiling. Maybe because we have Bermuda waste drains. Hi Cam If I was you I would mention it to my SS. That way if they do need to recess the slab a little bit it can happen. Good Luck <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=62083">viewtopic.php?t=62083</a><!-- l --> Re: Wet areas screeding for tiles - New build Perth 15Jan 15, 2014 4:54 pm Ours was like that at slab stage also. Tiler still screeds with a fall for drainage. Our showers are hobless with about 2cm set down. Only problem with this method is our bathroom entrance(main) is about 1.5cm taller than the floor in the hallway (never has been a problem have lived here 3 years, but when I first saw it was not happy - we have vinyl flooring), but in the bedroom the ensuite floor is the same which works out flush with the carpet (underlay and carpet thickness) So you just have to consider what flooring meets the bathroom if you don't want a step. But as I said no one has tripped yet.. There is another thread about getting wet areas all set down. I hope this help you newhome_24, AS3958.1 is the Ceramic Tile Installation Standard. It specifies the tolerances for the installation of tiles. The tile supplier is… 1 6015 All sorted guys. Just needed to buy a blade with the correct bush. Dunno how to delete this post, can't find any help file. Cheers. 1 2821 Thank you so much everyone. 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