Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 604Jul 20, 2015 3:44 am The moaner This old moaner been around a bit, back in the 1970s I remember NOR a small amount of residents in Balga got together and decided to change their part of the surburb name. A few of these residents changed a small area of the Balga surburb to the name Westminster. Same housing standard, same area, just changed the name. The houses in Westminster valued at $k more than when they were named Balga. People geniunely liked westminter over balga because they believed it had a better name and that did value properties in Westminster more than Balga, although they were all Balga before a small group changed their area to Westminster. Name associations is important, Anthropology,language,culture, history and nemo the fish isnt always appropriate. Isnt it 2015 ? and a so called multicultural society we live in. A suburbs name does make a difference (as proofed in the 1970s), property is often the only major investment that Mr and Mrs average will ever make in a life time, so has this been overlooked also ?? I think the choice of name change stinks. ....the council stinks and what a rude, insulting and bias letter to send to the ratepayers of calleya. I agreed with elemist, I want a refund on my rates. And all you other guys are right too. The name is hard to say,spell, it has no appeal, it has good meaning, but all round its awful. Very good points about Balga/Westminster. Its kinda sad, but once an area gets a reputation - even if reality changes it still carries that bad stigma. Unfortunately it can be a small part of the suburb that has issues, but the name devalues the entire suburb. As far as i'm concerned Banjup has an ok reputation, i rarely hear anything about it to be honest - so i guess it's a bit unknown to an extent. I would much prefer to remain Banjup over any of the current suggestions on the table. I appreciate the idea behind having Noongar names for suburbs i just don't think it's appropriate. Whilst there shouldn't be, the reality is there's some negative images to the Noongar/Aboriginal names. Then there's the practicality side of spelling it and pronouncing it. Suburb names should be simple to pronounce and be spelled like they're spoken. From the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) point of view - other recently named suburbs have had common english names such as Aubin Grove (ex Banjup) Hammond Park (ex Banjup) Piara Waters (ex Forrestdale) Bertram (ex Kwinana) Hocking (Wanneroo) I'm sure there's a bunch of others. But why should we be lumped with some unpronouncable, unspellable name that possibly devalues our properties just so the Cockburn councillors can give themselves a pat on the back for bringing back aboriginal culture! Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 605Jul 20, 2015 3:46 am Constellation Hi Elemist, I got that letter too and will object to the recommended name. No offence to anyone but Quendalup does not seem easy to pronounce, let alone to spell. Among the recommendations by the 6 elders in the letter, I like Pimelea Rosea (Rose Banjine) the most and will likely vouch for "Pimelea". I find it funny that they've proposed two names that essentially sound the same, mean the same but are spelled completely different. Did anyone at the council actually look at the practicality of spelling it? I have sent mine back already - objected to the name and put a note on the bottom requesting an easy to pronounce english name. Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 606Jul 20, 2015 11:32 pm Constellation I got that letter too and will object to the recommended name. No offence to anyone but Quendalup does not seem easy to pronounce, let alone to spell. Among the recommendations by the 6 elders in the letter, I like Pimelea Rosea (Rose Banjine) the most and will likely vouch for "Pimelea". We got the letter also and have been researching alternatives as we do not like any of the suggestions. Haven't sent the objection letter in yet as we wanted to get some feedback from others in these forums. (I love that we have this resource!!! ) elemist Very good points about Balga/Westminster. Its kinda sad, but once an area gets a reputation - even if reality changes it still carries that bad stigma. Unfortunately it can be a small part of the suburb that has issues, but the name devalues the entire suburb I think the name "Quendalup" devalues our area. After reading the rules for naming suburbs, we came up with this: Oxley Park - Named after James Oxley - Quote: Surveyor James Oxley in 1889 recorded the names of two water features as 'Lake Bangup' and 'Bangdown Swamp'. Exactly who gave these features their unusual names is unknown and only one of these names was shown on maps, ie 'Bangup Lake'. Land for the Armadale - Jandakot Railway link was resumed in 1907 and a station was constructed. The station was located 3.6km north of 'Bangup Lake' and was named 'Banjupp'. This is presumed to be a corruption of the original name of the lake. The name 'Banjupp' was used until the 1930s when the spelling was amended to Banjup. And the "park" part of the name is for the "bushland forever" left in the area, plus...... it sounds better What do you guys think? Any other suggestions? Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 608Jul 20, 2015 11:52 pm chadtyn I think the name "Quendalup" devalues our area. After reading the rules for naming suburbs, we came up with this: Oxley Park - Named after James Oxley - Quote: Surveyor James Oxley in 1889 recorded the names of two water features as 'Lake Bangup' and 'Bangdown Swamp'. Exactly who gave these features their unusual names is unknown and only one of these names was shown on maps, ie 'Bangup Lake'. Land for the Armadale - Jandakot Railway link was resumed in 1907 and a station was constructed. The station was located 3.6km north of 'Bangup Lake' and was named 'Banjupp'. This is presumed to be a corruption of the original name of the lake. The name 'Banjupp' was used until the 1930s when the spelling was amended to Banjup. And the "park" part of the name is for the "bushland forever" left in the area, plus...... it sounds better What do you guys think? Any other suggestions? It's far better than anything the council has come up with.. though i still kinda prefer Banjup over Oxley Park. Though i do like the meaning behind the name. From doing some more reading - common names that apparently imply prestige. - Vista - Waters - Heights - Lakeside - Bella - Park/Parklands - Rise - Heights In keeping with the areas history, something around either the water mound or the sand quarry could work. Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 609Jul 21, 2015 12:10 am elemist .. though i still kinda prefer Banjup over Oxley Park I 100% prefer to stay as Banjup. I think "North Banjup" would work also. Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 610Jul 21, 2015 12:35 pm Hi I would also oppose to the proposed name for several reasons and made my research about Banjup for suitable suburb names. I'll write a letter to Mr D. Green and will suggest my list. My list includes all possibilities as per point 7.1.1 in the Landgate rules for suitable names. * Fraser ( surveyor along side Oxley in this area) * Oxley * Carnaby ( Fauna which can be found in that area) * Callitris ( Flora in that area) * Highham ( first Mayor of Cockburn) * Middleton ( considering the Banjup WW1 veterans which lost there live in the war. Middleton beach were the last Australian soil which they left behind. Also, the war memorial would be in that new suburb.) * Rosea ( which has been suggested by the elder Trevor Walley and would cover a indigenous name in my list) Other option could be: North Banjup; Dolatis ( latin for quarry) All those names could be easily combined names mention by elemist. Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 611Jul 24, 2015 2:18 pm Hai every one i am new user this forum my lot is wattle seed avenue in calleya estate building not start at due to the building contract canceled with ---builder start with other builder expecting slab down this week. Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 612Jul 26, 2015 11:55 pm So how do we (future residents of Calleya) can vote against this name change? Do we get to vote? This name change will definitely affect our estate in future..I am not against heritage or culture but the name should sound attractive and notable. Looking at the south corridor we are in, anything containing to parks, heights, rise etc would suit nicely. Our build - Moved In! viewtopic.php?f=31&t=79629 Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 613Jul 26, 2015 11:57 pm Ro_14 So how do we (future residents of Calleya) can vote against this name change? Do we get to vote? This name change will definitely affect our estate in future..I am not against heritage or culture but the name should sound attractive and notable. Looking at the south corridor we are in, anything containing to parks, heights, rise etc would suit nicely. You should receive a letter in the post from the council which includes a voting form you can complete and return. Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 614Jul 29, 2015 12:10 am elemist Ro_14 So how do we (future residents of Calleya) can vote against this name change? Do we get to vote? This name change will definitely affect our estate in future..I am not against heritage or culture but the name should sound attractive and notable. Looking at the south corridor we are in, anything containing to parks, heights, rise etc would suit nicely. You should receive a letter in the post from the council which includes a voting form you can complete and return. Haven't received anything yet. Do you know what's the deadline? Our build - Moved In! viewtopic.php?f=31&t=79629 Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 615Jul 29, 2015 12:44 am Ro_14 elemist Ro_14 So how do we (future residents of Calleya) can vote against this name change? Do we get to vote? This name change will definitely affect our estate in future..I am not against heritage or culture but the name should sound attractive and notable. Looking at the south corridor we are in, anything containing to parks, heights, rise etc would suit nicely. You should receive a letter in the post from the council which includes a voting form you can complete and return. Haven't received anything yet. Do you know what's the deadline? No idea unfortunately. I think it was on the form that i've already returned. Maybe give the council a call and ask? On another note - has everyone received their rates in the post? Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 616Jul 29, 2015 10:28 am elemist On another note - has everyone received their rates in the post? Hi elemist, I've received the invoice for council rate, but since I opted for paperless, hence received it via email, instead of post. The rates are still for vacant residential, although I've been living in my house since 14th april. I think they will send an adjustment later. Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 617Jul 29, 2015 1:41 pm Farrukh elemist On another note - has everyone received their rates in the post? Hi elemist, I've received the invoice for council rate, but since I opted for paperless, hence received it via email, instead of post. The rates are still for vacant residential, although I've been living in my house since 14th april. I think they will send an adjustment later. Lets hope for your sake they overlook that you've been there for a few months now... More money out of your pocket otherwise! Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 618Jul 29, 2015 1:44 pm smegs90 Farrukh elemist On another note - has everyone received their rates in the post? Hi elemist, I've received the invoice for council rate, but since I opted for paperless, hence received it via email, instead of post. The rates are still for vacant residential, although I've been living in my house since 14th april. I think they will send an adjustment later. Lets hope for your sake they overlook that you've been there for a few months now... More money out of your pocket otherwise! Sure they'll catch on quick enough - it's the one thing council's are usually pretty on the ball about! Have you ordered your Bin's yet Farrukh? Re: Take Two - Calleya WA - Brick Laying Finished (sort of) 619Jul 29, 2015 4:46 pm elemist Have you ordered your Bin's yet Farrukh? Yes I did and received the bins back in April. 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