Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Sep 15, 2013 4:24 pm Dear All, I am a new member and was wondering if I can get some info/help in regard to stormwater connection in Brisbane area. We are in the process of building at the moment, still in planning stage. Our LH neighbour is building as well, they are in slab laying stage at the moment. Both our blocks are sloping away from the street frontage. There is a BCC stormwater pipe connection at the back of my RH neighbour. I have a permission to enter from my RH neighbour to connect to the BCC stormwater connection. Long story short, knowing that we are going to connect to BCC stormwater line, My LH neighbour is asking if they could connect their stormwater as well, so they will transverse the pipe over our land and connect to my RH neighbour. So I have a discussion with my architect and hydraulic engineer about it and this is what they said.. In order to accommodate both of our water run off, we need a 225mm pipe in which automatically trigger an easement to our land, which we don't want to have that. The neighbour suggesting to have 2 pipes (1 for us and 1 for them) of 150mm for connection under our land then connect to our RH neighbour. Our architect is certain that it is illegal to have 2 pipes underground unless it is done "under the table" which my architect is advising us NOT to do so and we agree. We don't want to have THAT kind of problem down the line. So, if we refuse their request to connect through us, there might be a future problem of flooding in heavy rain season. They are talking to install a pump as plan B to pump the water to the street frontage but we all know that pump may fail if there's power outage. My question is, is there anything we could do in addition to make sure we don't get flooded from them? Thank you for reading and looking forward to read some response(s). Re: Stormwater pipe connection & Easement 2Sep 15, 2013 5:51 pm The BCC is recognised as having rafferty rules. If you lived practically anywhere else, your neighbour (and probably yourself) would be required to have a detention tank. Pumped systems are covered under section 9 of AS/NZS 3500.3:2003. Check my recent posts for advice to a poster re pumped systems and Australian Standards. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Stormwater pipe connection & Easement 3Sep 15, 2013 6:09 pm An easement is just an agreement to allow someone to have and maintain a pipe under your land. By agreeing to let the neighbour lay the pipe under your land you are in effect giving them an easement even if the pipe is less than 225mm. If I was going to let someone lay a pipe over my land I would want a formal easement with the neighbour responsible for all the costs. The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: Stormwater pipe connection & Easement 4Sep 15, 2013 8:17 pm SaveH2O The BCC is recognised as having rafferty rules. Pumped systems are covered under section 9 of AS/NZS 3500.3:2003. Check my recent posts for advice to a poster re pumped systems and Australian Standards. Thanks for your response. Found the post and will have a good read through it. bashworth An easement is just an agreement to allow someone to have and maintain a pipe under your land. By agreeing to let the neighbour lay the pipe under your land you are in effect giving them an easement even if the pipe is less than 225mm. If I was going to let someone lay a pipe over my land I would want a formal easement with the neighbour responsible for all the costs. A recorded Brisbane City Council easement would somehow devalue our property, wouldn't it? I wouldnt mind having an individual easement (is that the term??) with the neighbour, but the legality is what concern us. I think I might have to have a chat with the engineer about pros and cons. Thank you for your response. Re: Stormwater pipe connection & Easement 5Sep 15, 2013 10:00 pm I have heard of several instances where people have been required to have detention tanks in the BCC area due to concerns about the additional flow rates downstream if they were to connect new services to existing stormwater connections. Has it already been okayed to connect the new services to the existing pipework without the need for detention? There have been many instances the last few years where existing systems could not cope during heavy rain. Your hydraulic engineer could advise further. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Stormwater pipe connection & Easement 6Sep 15, 2013 10:45 pm dedot A recorded Brisbane City Council easement would somehow devalue our property, wouldn't it? Wouldn't make any difference over 50% of properties have some sort of Easement in urban areas. Most people don't understand anything about them. Of those that do understand most aren't botherered unless: It's along a side boundary. or They want to build close to the easement For more info see http://www.anewhouse.com.au/2012/01/easements/ The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. 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