Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jul 17, 2013 11:33 am Hello, For anyone living in the Rouse Hill,The Ponds, Kellyville Ridge, Stanhope Gardens, Beaumont Hills and Parklea area that has a new connection to Sydney water after July 2012 will be slugged with a water levy costing $246.67 per Quarter ($1000 per year) for the next 5 years totalling $5000. This means before you use any water usage your bill will be approx $450 per quarter which incorporates the $246 fee, $174 fee and $33 fee for stormwater drainage. I was never told about this prior to purchasing the land, and was only told by others that had just moved into the area. I strongly urge everyone who is effected by this levy to complain so it can be changed. Sydney water did not agree to this charge and wanted it removed but they legally have to implement it as per IPARTS ruling. I believe this charge should be shared amongst all residents within the area or the developers of the land be responsible for it. Email addresses are below for IPART, Energy & Water Ombudsman and local parliament members. You can call Sydney water to make a complaint on 13 20 92 enquiries@ipart.nsw.gov.au omb@ewon.com.au hawkesbury@parliament.nsw.gov.au office@hartcher.minister.nsw.gov.au http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsloca ... 6680150632 Please take the time to complain as changes will only be made if they get enough complaints. This directly affects our pocket so it will only benefit yourself if something is done. Thanks Rouse Hill Resident Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 2Jul 17, 2013 1:14 pm Hills111 Hello, For anyone living in the Rouse Hill,The Ponds, Kellyville Ridge, Stanhope Gardens, Beaumont Hills and Parklea area that has a new connection to Sydney water after July 2012 will be slugged with a water levy costing $246.67 per Quarter ($1000 per year) for the next 5 years totalling $5000 Thanks Hills111 I already complained to Sydney Water when we received our first bill (before we have even moved in). I have now responded a second time and copied in the emails you detailed. I agree - if everyone can get on board, we might be able to make some noise and hopefully it might change. 8/9/12 - Deposit 26/11/12 - Council App 21/12/12 - Contract 12/2/13 - Site Scrape 15/3 - Piers 21/3 - Slab 17/4 - Frame 14/5 - Roof 30/5 - Bricks 25/6 - Gyprock Building variation of the Muscat Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 3Jul 17, 2013 8:52 pm facebook groups get a fair amount of attention - there was a woman who made one on the front page of the paper last week I think. I am happy to join one if you make one. I agree about the charge - it seems grossly unfair we should be double paying for infrastructure. I pay enough tax as it is! Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 4Jul 17, 2013 10:00 pm Thanks for the alert. I bought my land in November last year and was not told of the charge by the developer or my conveyancer. Build thread: here Land Nov 12, Contract 6/07/13, Consent 15/08/13, Start 20/09/13, Slab 25/09/13, Frame 4/10/13, Brick 21/10/13, Roof 2/11/13, Lock-up 17/12/13, Handover 3/3/14 Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 5Jul 17, 2013 10:20 pm Hopefully if enough people complain the something will be done about it soon. I can't see how they can justify why new connections are charged for something yet someone next door or two streets away who connected before July 2012 does not get charged when they benefit from the same thing. If the cost was averaged out to the whole area it would probably be such a small fee for everyone that you wouldn't even notice or better yet the developers be responsible for it. Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 6Jul 17, 2013 10:39 pm My cynical view is that there was probably a direction to impact the smaller number of voters. Less risk of a backlash. Build thread: here Land Nov 12, Contract 6/07/13, Consent 15/08/13, Start 20/09/13, Slab 25/09/13, Frame 4/10/13, Brick 21/10/13, Roof 2/11/13, Lock-up 17/12/13, Handover 3/3/14 Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 7Jul 18, 2013 11:14 am Hills111 Hello, For anyone living in the Rouse Hill,The Ponds, Kellyville Ridge, Stanhope Gardens, Beaumont Hills and Parklea area that has a new connection to Sydney water after July 2012 will be slugged with a water levy costing $246.67 per Quarter ($1000 per year) for the next 5 years totalling $5000. This means before you use any water usage your bill will be approx $450 per quarter which incorporates the $246 fee, $174 fee and $33 fee for stormwater drainage. I was never told about this prior to purchasing the land, and was only told by others that had just moved into the area. I strongly urge everyone who is effected by this levy to complain so it can be changed. Sydney water did not agree to this charge and wanted it removed but they legally have to implement it as per IPARTS ruling. I believe this charge should be shared amongst all residents within the area or the developers of the land be responsible for it. Email addresses are below for IPART, Energy & Water Ombudsman and local parliament members. You can call Sydney water to make a complaint on 13 20 92 enquiries@ipart.nsw.gov.au omb@ewon.com.au hawkesbury@parliament.nsw.gov.au office@hartcher.minister.nsw.gov.au http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsloca ... 6680150632 Please take the time to complain as changes will only be made if they get enough complaints. This directly affects our pocket so it will only benefit yourself if something is done. Thanks Rouse Hill Resident For residents at The Ponds you will need to email MP Kevin Connolly riverstone@parliament.nsw.gov.au Please do make complaints with Sydney water, followed by the Ombudsman. Neither of these will waive the fees for you though they are adding up the complaint totals. I believe that it is IPART who has some idiot sitting behind a desk and somehow believes it's the right thing to do to take out $5,000.00 loans on behalf of some households in order to pay their debts. Whoever made these decisions is in-humane and they need to start doing t he right thing. We have also notified Rouse Hill Times who have also printed stories though continue to get info so please email your story to editor@rousehilltimes.com.au also In my situation, I purchased land in 2011 though didn't build straight away. Sydney water acknowledges that the charge didn't even exist when I purchase my land and so it is not on my section 66 certificate and there was no way to notify me. How they think they can get away with something like this is simply beyond me. The more complaints the better. Sheridan 35@The Ponds 29.06 1st meet 17.07 Tender 15.08 1st plans/Contracts 29.08 Colours 12.10 DA 20.11 Council Approval 14.12 Site cut 19.12 Slab 04.02 Frame 17.02 Bricks started Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 8Jul 18, 2013 1:15 pm Hills111 Hello, I strongly urge everyone who is effected by this levy to complain so it can be changed. Sydney water did not agree to this charge and wanted it removed but they legally have to implement it as per IPARTS ruling. I believe this charge should be shared amongst all residents within the area or the developers of the land be responsible for it. That Sydney water didn't agree isn't the way IPART sees it: http://www.ipart.nsw.gov.au/Home/Indust ... March_2012 We are writing a complaint now, because we agree with everything you said, but I wonder who is really at fault here. If Sydney Water really is the issue, do we need to complain to them? Or have you already? - if so, what did they say? thanks Dave Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 9Jul 18, 2013 3:04 pm I complained to those that I mentioned in my post. I also contacted the rouse hill times about it. Sydney water will get someone to phone you back in which the conversation about your complaint is recorded and sent to IPART. I assume they type this out in a transcript. It really annoys me because they want families to live in the area yet they set these ridiculous costs that makes its even harder for people to live. Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 10Jul 18, 2013 4:22 pm Hills111 I complained to those that I mentioned in my post. I also contacted the rouse hill times about it. Sydney water will get someone to phone you back in which the conversation about your complaint is recorded and sent to IPART. I assume they type this out in a transcript. It really annoys me because they want families to live in the area yet they set these ridiculous costs that makes its even harder for people to live. agreed. We are drafting one for North Kellyville - it is even harder for us, as we already have to get a rain water tank and rain garden to mitigate our drainage off the block. So we are double hit for this. Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 11Jul 18, 2013 6:55 pm Hi All, We received our bill today!!!!! Should we email Ray Hadley? I don't listen to him or his radio station. However I do know that he is a Hills resident and would love this info. I emailed him a few years ago when it was my parents anniversary and he aired it straight away. Maybe he could do something about it? (Stir the pot a little) I have made various phone calls to Sydney water and Council today. Both are blaming one another. This charge is unfair and ridiculous!!! Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 12Jul 18, 2013 8:04 pm Hi all I'm meeting up with another resident on Saturday so any ideas of what to do next to stop this charge will be welcomed!!! This charge is ridiculous and unlawful and I believe we can stop this charge!!! Cheers Heather Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 13Jul 18, 2013 8:20 pm Hey here is our draft letter to give you some ideas. This is customised to North Kellyville a little, but feel free to use what you can. ------------------------------ To whom it may concern, We are new residents in North Kellyville and are writing in response to the charges from Sydney Water for the quarterly 'Rouse Hill land charge'. These charges amount to around $5000 spread over 5 years. We strongly object to these charges being passed on directly to us as new residents and feel that permanent infrastructure such as this should not be charged to select residents. For Sydney water to single out the new residents of an area only to pay for the cost of infrastructure that all residents, both past, present and future will use, is simply unfair. This represents a slippery slope and establishes a dangerous precedent, which can only end in the metering of water leaving each property! Clearly this would be ridiculous, and the sensible approach to the problem would be to include the cost of infrastructure back where it belongs - in general government spending. Additionally, we feel we are already burdened with the initial and ongoing costs for both a rain garden and rain water tank as is required by the North Kellyville DCP. We are already forfeiting over 9sqm of our small block of land to facilitate the required storm water retention the rain-garden provides. This has affected our use of space - position of our house, visual appeal and we estimate over tens of thousands of dollars across our 30 year mortgage in dedication to this rain-garden. We feel that this alone is more than our fair share towards storm water management and urge you to review the combination of these costs for North Kellyville residents. We call on our representatives at all levels of government to take the bureaucracies of IPART and Sydney Water to task, and restore the balance in favour of the average resident, already struggling with housing affordability. The Rouse Hill area of Sydney is a known growth area, and has great potential to grow and generate great revenue to the state. The growth areas of Sydney need to be encouraged not discouraged, for the good of all Sydney residents. --------------------------- Good luck! Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 14Jul 18, 2013 8:58 pm Sending letters and complaints to all of these places is fantastic, however I still feel that along with that information we require a well known spokesperson not associated with the govt, but well known in media to voice the concerns of us residents. We require some sort of action relatively soon, not in 5 years time when we (the new residents in new developments) have already paid for this ROUSE HILL LAND CHARGE that EVERYONE in these suburbs are using!!!! Any ideas would be fantastic. Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 15Jul 18, 2013 9:00 pm Agree with you all. It is not fair to charge new residents only! It's ridiculous! We have to bear the cost of the gigantic 9000ltr water tank as well, now this? I'll send the complaint letter to all the emails shown above. Someone mentioned setting up a facebook page, that might bring more attention to this issue and get more people on board who are not on H1. HD Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 17Jul 18, 2013 9:23 pm I'll make a facebook page now as well. here we go: https://www.facebook.com/ResidentsAgain ... LandCharge graphic designer needed...! Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 18Jul 18, 2013 10:17 pm I sent a complaint e-mail last night. I received this response from one of the local members: Quote: To say I am appalled about this charge being applied to new home owners in my electorate is an understatement. I have worked closely with our government for the past two months, since IPART originally announced these charges and I believe the matter will be resolved very soon. Quote: I am confident this charge will be addressed very soon so as to minimise the impact to hard working families in our area. Hopefully that means something positive is happening. Keep up the complaining!!! Build thread: here Land Nov 12, Contract 6/07/13, Consent 15/08/13, Start 20/09/13, Slab 25/09/13, Frame 4/10/13, Brick 21/10/13, Roof 2/11/13, Lock-up 17/12/13, Handover 3/3/14 Re: Rouse Hill,The Ponds & Kellyville- Sydney Water land cha 20Jul 18, 2013 10:36 pm Aitch72 Fantastic Maximus, who is that from? Ray Williams. Build thread: here Land Nov 12, Contract 6/07/13, Consent 15/08/13, Start 20/09/13, Slab 25/09/13, Frame 4/10/13, Brick 21/10/13, Roof 2/11/13, Lock-up 17/12/13, Handover 3/3/14 If you already have a contract, is the inspection cost stated in there? If not they would be forced to issue you a variation which you could of course object to. 12 25834 3 22624 Petercurtis You able to contact the certifier and get a copy of your structural plans, if they are not in your contract. If your home was approved via CDC then they… 1 19188 |