Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 16, 2013 10:38 pm I've spent the last 3 weeks looking at virtually every house plan available from the major players on the w.w.w. and still I can't find anything I like that's in budget.
I haven't got a long list of must haves but there are a few that we can't go without. Must have:- A study, not on display to every visitor as I'm as messy on the desk as I am in my head. Master bedroom, must not be on front of house. Insomniac. Scullery or extra large WIP. We're down sizing and I have 16 large base cupboards of stuff to move with us. 10sqm to 12sqm of storage tagged on the garage for DH and sons motorbikes. Overhead cupboards to the kitchen and a cupboard with counter trough in the laundry. Not one of those tin things. 31c at least in family, dining and kitchen. Max budget of $250 for build. Would like to haves:- Solid stone/essa counter tops, at last in the kitchen. Semi frameless shower screens, maybe hobless shower bases would be nice as well. 31c ceiling through out. Reverse cycle aircon. Does this list sound over budget to anyone or am I going to have to give up something? Time Line:- 26/02/12, Site Works Start. 13/03/14, Site plumbing and rio laid for slab. 19/03/14 Slabbed. 26/03/14 Windows and shed delivered. 30/03/14 Slab repaired and Electrics run to slab. 01/04/14 1st site clean up. 11/05/14 - 20/06/14 Brick works. 03/07/14 - 11/07/14 Roofing and ceiling Joists. 11/07/14 Garage ceiling gyprocked. 15/07/14 Electrical cut in. 15/07/14 Gas in. 16/07/14 Gutters and downpipes fitted. 17/07/14 1st electrical fitting. 17/07/14 - 18/07/14 Plumbing 1st fitting. 22/07/14 2nd site clean. 28/07/14 intelligent home fit alarm and data. 30/07/14 - 02/08/14 Colourbond roofing. 05/08/14 Exterior render. 08/08/14 - 15/08/14 Grey set completed 19/08/14 Ceilings fitted. 22/08/14 Windows fitted with glass. 24/08/14 Cornices fitted. 01/09/14 -05/09/14 White set 04/09/14 Front and garage internal doors fitted. 05/09/14 Internal doors delivered. 05/09/14 LOCK UP 10/09/14 Doors Installed. 12/09/14 Bath and plumbing Installed. 13/09/14 Ceilings and cornices sanded. 15/09/14 Linen and wardrobe shelving done. 17/09/14 Termite treatment No2 18/09/14 Grano in garage laid. 22/09/14 Kitchen Delivered 23/09/14 Kitchen Installed 30/09/14 Screeding started. 02/10/14 Counter tops and sinks installed. 06/10/14 Waterproofing. 08/10/14 - 16/10/14 Tiling. 13/10/14 Ceilings Painted 16/10/14 Showers and tap ware installed 17/10/14 Garage Doors 17/10/14 Constant Hot Water 17/10/14 Electrics started 21/10/14 Roof Batts 21/10/14 Oven and Hotplate 22/10/14 A/c Installed 22/10/14 Alarm and Data points 24/10/14 Exterior painting 24/10/14 Doors Hung 25/10/14 Internal Glossing. 27/10/14 Wardrobe slidders fitted. 28/10/14 Splashbacks installed 28/10/14 Fencing Installed 28/10/14 Door furniture fitted. 28/10/15 Towel rails 30/10/14 Extractors 31/10/14 Roof Vents 31/10/14 THE TAP 03/11/14 Render painting 04/11/14 Mirrors 04/11/14 Shower screens 06/11/14 Feature waterproof flashing installed 08/11/14 Floor tiling started 11/11/14 Gas Run In 17/11/14 Floor Tiling finished 17/11/14 Exterior Feature Tiling 17/11/14 Extractor in Kitchen Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 2May 16, 2013 10:41 pm Sorry. That budget is $250k max My Build, viewtopic.php?f=31&t=64837 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 3May 16, 2013 11:24 pm where are you building? you want 4 x 2 plus study or 3 x 2 plus study? total size of house you're after? I reckon its doable! We had the same budget and would easily fit those requests in but it does depend on how big overall...and Im assuming single story? Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 4May 17, 2013 2:29 am Oops. It helps to tell you those facts. We need a 4 x 2 single story. I'm looking for 290sqm or more, but that's including the extended garage and an alfresco. We're building in Burns Beach. My Build, viewtopic.php?f=31&t=64837 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 5May 17, 2013 7:14 am I don't know what Perth prices are like but I think it would be difficult to find a plan with the changes you'd require for that price in Sydney. Are you after 4 bed PLUS study or happy to use one bedroom as a study?... Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 6May 17, 2013 7:36 am How about this? http://porterdavis.com.au/homes/prestige/ivanhoe - Bedroom at the back - Study at the front, can easily put a door on the study entrance. - Garage extension to accommodate extra garage storage for bikes, etc - Price is within budget, and luxury inclusions (which are included in the prestige range) include essa stone bench tops. - Overhead cupboards can be added without blowing the budget - Has a WIP as requested - Luxury package should include laundry cupboards not cheap looking trough I would recommend other builders floor plans but we only seriously looked into Main Vue and Porter Davis. Building a Porter Davis Dunedin 31 with the Mansfield Facade Floor Plan: http://porterdavis.com.au/content/Houses/Dunedin/Floorplans/PDL_Dunedin%2031.pdf Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 7May 17, 2013 7:37 am Apologies, did not realise you were from Perth. I believe Porter Davis only build in Victoria. Building a Porter Davis Dunedin 31 with the Mansfield Facade Floor Plan: http://porterdavis.com.au/content/Houses/Dunedin/Floorplans/PDL_Dunedin%2031.pdf Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 8May 17, 2013 9:56 am Hmm 290m2 is about 31 squares I think. For the houses we've been looking at, costs are $10-11k per square for a finished house. So that's about $310k. I think you're pushing it for $250k. Have you spoken to a custom builder? They may be able to design what you want for a cheaper price. Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 9May 17, 2013 12:11 pm Im building with Redink who will adjust their designs to suit you or even draw up a totally custom design but you really need to know what you want. their promos usually include stone benchtops, reverse cycle ducted aircon, semi frameless shower screens and lots of other goodies. They also have packages that you can pay for that make finishing the house cheaper overall. 290m2 should be achievable for $250k through them! also look at home group WA and maybe even Gemmill. These are some builders we seriously looked at. Depending on the finish level you are after you can also look at Celebrations homes etc but Im not sure how flexible they are with custom designs like the first three I mentioned. we also wanted our master bedroom tucked away and to do this for us meant pushing the other 3 bedrooms to the front of the house and then the design sort of evolved around that...took a few months to get what we wanted Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 10May 17, 2013 12:20 pm Think you would be pushing it at 250k at that size of house... .What is your land situation? Do you know the approx cost you will need to incur for site works etc? Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 11May 17, 2013 12:45 pm http://www.homegroupwa.com.au/the-flore ... lete-292m2 check out this link, its not a design that will suit you but its a nicely finished 292m2 home for $230k. Im assuming siteworks on top of that 8-14k depending on your soil? its got 31c to living/dining/kitchen, stone benchtops, flooring throughout, internal wall painting, led lighting, aircon etc. you would need to add in cabinets to the laundry and depending on what builder you go with it could be cheaper after handover. Our laundry after handover is $2000 for gloss cupboards 2.6m long with a benchtops going over the WM and overhead cupboards all above. Looks like the scullery would need some help too but start drawing up your own design on graph paper and stay within the 290m2 and take it to builders to quote! Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 12May 17, 2013 7:14 pm Thanks Guys IMLOST you got me all excited. You get so much for your money in VIC. Rip off WA. That house would have been perfect with the rumpus room wall removed and really opening up that family area. XXKATXX. Gemmill actually did the perfect plan for us and it was only slightly over budget. but I was a good girl and did my homework on them. They have had such bad press and feedback about their reputation and quality of service that there is no way I am risking my hard earn $ with them. If it was one or two disgruntled customers then maybe, but when all the reviews are shocking. No way!. Its funny you mentioned the "Florence" from HGWA. I have actually already had them change that plan to suit us. I am just waiting again for the costings. I have also got Ventora costing up this plan. http://www.ventura-homes.com.au/home-de ... iumph-plus and ContentLiving doing this one. http://www.contentliving.com.au/promoti ... Camdem.pdf When I figure our how to do that photo thingy I will post a picture of the changes. All of these houses would be perfectly ok, its just Im not excited by or in love with any of them. I feel like Im just making do. JTREADWELL I have a 629sqm block. It took us $50k over budget, hense why I have less to spend on the house now. But all of the other lots left were around 520sqm or less and on corners, opposite T junctions, point in the wrong direction or face the openings of back lanes to garages. Actually they had a new release last week and the smaller lots are now all up around the same price we have paid for our larger one. Site works are actually not that bad. The builders have said it is normally around $8k to $10k including the soak wells because its all clean sand dunes that have just been flattened. My Build, viewtopic.php?f=31&t=64837 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 13May 17, 2013 7:30 pm have you walked through any display homes and thought wow I love the layout of this room?? even just a master/ensuite combo? I cant really remember walking through any displays in my budget and thinking wow I could so live here so Im a bit like you....we have taken a gamble and just hoping we like our design once its up! in a week or so when the bricks are up we should know :s I wouldn't drop thoughts of Gemmill completely...we were so close to signing up and they were bending over backwards for us but in the end the horror stories we had heard got the better of us give Redink a go, the way they draw their house plans turned me off for some reason but its just a drawing lol they have been fantastic! Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 14May 17, 2013 7:42 pm 250 max Do you mean 250 to finish? Those last 2 plans as they are now must be close, and you wish to add to them ? You have my interest Timeline Aug 08-Land Mar 09-Demo/Titles Sept 10-Handover No1 Sept 11-Handover No2 April 12-Sold No2 Aug 14-Land/Demo Jan 15-Slabs viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25736 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 15May 17, 2013 7:51 pm The plan from Gemmill was fantastic, it really was, but I cant take the gamble of it all going wrong or the house being sub standard and being just "ok" when Im spending over $840k all up on the Land, Stamp duty, House and Pool. It would kill my mentally if the house didn't live up to the location of the land and the feel of the tranquil back garden we want. My Build, viewtopic.php?f=31&t=64837 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 16May 17, 2013 7:52 pm We are building a custom design with Gemmill and I don't regret it at all. Yes, the admin side is hideously slow, it took us a lot longer to get to site than we would have liked and the level of communication from our CLO could do with some improvement but at the end of the day it is the quality of the house that matters and the work on our house so far has been top notch. Having had a nightmare experience with another builder I understand the need to want to bad mouth them to anyone that will listen and unfortunately people are more likely to post reviews about negative experiences than they are good ones. It is human nature to want to vent when you are frustrated with something and as a result I don't think reviews necessarily give a fair and balanced view. Have you thought of designing a plan from scratch? I think I visited almost ever display home in Perth and none of them suited what we wanted. There were bits and pieces of some of them that worked but nothing that worked as a whole. That's when I decided to buy a graph pad and design our own plan incorporating the elements we liked about other plans. A few late nights later and we had a design that we took to three builders to price up. We are now around 4 weeks for PCI and I can honestly say that I love my house! I have been to some of the newer display villages over the last month looking for decorating ideas and I still haven't walked into a house that gives me the same "wow" that our house does now in its undecorated, unfinished state. Sorry for dribbling on but I guess I'm trying to say, don't just settle for a design. It is such a huge investment and should be perfect for you Our custom Gemmill Home in Bedfordale WA Build thread:https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=53788 Timeline on page 1 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 17May 17, 2013 7:55 pm ECHO The Ventura house is $227.000 before our changes and the HGWA house is S229000 before our changes. Its about $10000 just to add the store to the garage. I have Champagne tastes and Lemonade budgets. My Build, viewtopic.php?f=31&t=64837 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 18May 17, 2013 8:03 pm Soakedblonde. The Gemmil house was drawn up for us from a concept of ideas we had. It was done before I learnt about them. but I need to know that when I want an answer or to ask a question I have someones full attention, not left blowing in the wind. I also have a good friend who is a contractor to them. If he cant get through to talk to them what chance do I have. Let me get the 3 plans up I have and you might all have Ideas on where I can things or items to bring the price down without losing the integrity of the house. My Build, viewtopic.php?f=31&t=64837 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 19May 17, 2013 8:04 pm triggywiggy ECHO The Ventura house is $227.000 before our changes and the HGWA house is S229000 before our changes. Its about $10000 just to add the store to the garage. I have Champagne tastes and Lemonade budgets. I knew this , just making sure you did. Best budget $120K+ to finish , this figure doesn't include the pool or pool related landscaping . The term over capitalizing is threatening to get a say here. trust you will be residing there a while then. I do wish you the best of luck, enjoy the ride Timeline Aug 08-Land Mar 09-Demo/Titles Sept 10-Handover No1 Sept 11-Handover No2 April 12-Sold No2 Aug 14-Land/Demo Jan 15-Slabs viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25736 Re: Turning Numb, Nothing grabs me. 20May 17, 2013 8:29 pm I don't know if you've seen Ultimate Homes Grandeur 295. The gold spec inc stone worksurfaces and o/head cupboards is $204K. Or The Sandalwood 284 @ $194K. Had we not gone for a Ben Trager 2 storey, I think we'd have gone with Ultimate. They've got some really good designs. Hey, I am wanting to add a second toilet to my house, bit we have limited room. There is a hallway/entry that is never used, so was thinking this could be an option. 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