Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Apr 12, 2013 6:44 pm Hi everyone, We have decided to build a new house, we are looking for a block of land and then building. Had a look at a few display homes and have been reading lots on this forum. I just wanted to ask a really basic question. Whenever people on here talk about tenders, is that the quote for how much the house is going to cost? I also hear people saying they have to pay for the tender as well. So for example if I had a block of land, would I have to get a tender just to even find out how much it would all cost to build a certain house on our land, or is that a quote? So sorry for the most basic question, this is all very daunting, and I love that you can ask some regular people on here. Much appreciated. Re: Basic Question about Tenders 2Apr 12, 2013 6:53 pm A tender is when you go to more than one builder and ask them to price for the same house. Its only normally for custom designed homes where you get the plans drawn up by a designer or architect. If you select a builders design home you just negotiate a price with that builder rather than going out to tender. You can't get another builder to price for constructing another builders design as that breaches copyright. The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: Basic Question about Tenders 4Apr 12, 2013 8:24 pm just as bashworth says , if you do like another builders design but want some one else to build it it must be changed significantly as not to breach copyright, Re: Basic Question about Tenders 5Apr 12, 2013 8:45 pm I can tell you how it goes with a volume builder. You firstly talk to a salesperson who can do a quote for you of the house you have chosen on the block along with other changes you might want to make. For this you pay nothing. If you then decide yes, we think we want to build the house then you usually pay a deposit, with PD it is $1k ( non refundable) they do a soil test and do a preliminary costing of building that house on that block. You then go to tender when they tell you how much the site costs are and the cost of the changes you want to make. This is when you get freaked out as the cost of he house might be $100k but to build it in your block might cost an extra $30k in site costs. Our last house had site costs of $28k, $12k cut and fill and $16 k in retaining walls as the fall on the land was 1.8m At his point, if you are ok with the price and all your changes are correct etc then you pay the next part of the deposit (2% or 3%) of the house price (again non refundable) and they draw up the full plans. you cannot make changes after this. You then have tile appointments to chose upgraded tiles or feature tiles or whatever. You also have an appointment with the interior people (hopetoun) to choose sinks, bricks, doors handle etc. When you then go to the contract appointment they show you the full plans, give you final prices on your tile and hopetoun upgrades and come up with a final price. You then pay the balance to bring your deposit up to 5% of the fixed price less the $1k and the deposit you paid at tender. Hope this helps and that I have not added to the confusion Re: Basic Question about Tenders 6Apr 12, 2013 8:48 pm All the project-home builders we went to gave us tenders.
They tender for the work. It's pretty-much a quote; but each tender was for a different product (being from different builders). Before you pay for this 'tender' the salesperson gives you a rough idea on cost, but the tender is more accurate. And yes, for most of them they wanted some money to prepare the tender for us. Usually around $1k if what you want doesn't vary much from a standard design. One company didn't charge us for the tender, but it also didn't include significant variation from standard. Re: Basic Question about Tenders 7Apr 12, 2013 8:50 pm A tender is as Bashworth described, but when you are organizing a tender with a project builder you also find out site costs. For example, we paid our builder $750 to produce a tender... They let us know the site costs, after they did soil testing, and how much to build as per our land developers requirements. They should also let you know the cost for BAL and BASIX above the design of the home. Some project builder's let you know some of the prices before the tender. But in our experience it was only after paying some $$$ did we get a true indication of what we were up for. Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! Re: Basic Question about Tenders 8Apr 12, 2013 9:36 pm Wow so much helpful info! Thanks so much! It has been stressfull before even starting, this really helps! Ahh Ok I get a better idea now. Yeah I figured all the plans would have been copyright. I was asking in the sense of using a project builder, sorry didn't make that clear. I see, that's what I was curious about, the site costs etc, so I guess you pay the tender to find that out, that helps alot! 750 is not too bad if its going to find out if its an extra $30K!! Hmm that kind of sucks that you have to pay some $$$ to get an idea even of how much the real prices are...sometimes I feel we should go for a House and land package deal, but I've been told that even then there are additional costs. So I think we will find the land and a builder seperate. Back Pocket, thanks so much for the extra info, thats exactly the info I needed! Very big help. Its really hard to gauge anything, E.G I look at Casaview, and Mirvac, they have roughly the same type of houses but I think CasaView is only the base. I guess its true what people say to add $70-100k to the base price you see! One quick question, say you have got a tender and got info about your site from a builder, e.g EB for $750, say you don't want to go with them, can you still get all that info to help you with the next choice of builder? Thanks again all! One step closer (one step out of 1000) Re: Basic Question about Tenders 9Apr 12, 2013 9:58 pm The way it worked with EB when we signed up, we paid $750 for tender prep, a further $2750, to get contract prepared. It was after we signed contract was prepared that we were committed to them. At contract signing, you are required to pay 5% of the total build price minus the $3500 already paid. I think EB's tender fee has gone up though it may be now, $1000 Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! Re: Basic Question about Tenders 10Apr 12, 2013 10:13 pm Thankts FirstTimeHmbld, beautiful house you have going there, it looks like its coming along nicely! If you don't mind me asking, with Eden Braes Pricelist I found on line, how much more roughly should I add ontop of that to get a rough indicator, not including the site inspection etc, because obviously your block may be different from the one I go with. Also another basic question, is the 5% all you pay until the keys are handed over??? Thanks so much! Re: Basic Question about Tenders 11Apr 12, 2013 10:46 pm No, I wish I only had to pay 5% until keys are handed over. You have progressive payments which you draw done on your construction loan... Slab, frames, bricks, at the commencement of internal linings, then our last payment is settlement. We got the essentials package, this price included M class slab, carpet, tiles.... Check out the details to find out was included. A lot of inclusions were in this price. We only paid $40000 above this price to get the keys, and we have made a lot of upgrades. I no longer have base price of our house design. But I think we paid $100000 above base price. Our slab was m class but high salinity, so we paid about an extra $6000 in site costs which is included in that $40000 for extra piering and membranes. I am really happy with the build, and yes I can't wait to move in very soon! Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! You can really use anything you want the main consideration would be how it looks once painted/finished - or the look you want. Cabinetmakers use MDF because its cheap… 2 10020 I would say both styles you have pictured are steel. The lower chord of the first pic would be a massive lump if made using timber considering the size of the rafters. If… 1 6181 1 13156 |