Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Mar 26, 2013 9:17 pm Have just paid our deposit to build a Genesis series home and after handing over the money, have now been told that with the FREE colourbond roof that is part of their package with the house, that sarking MUST be used with the colourbond at our expense, We have also been informed that the upgraded facade we decided upon, doesnt come as the picture depicts with no lights or door as pictured!!! What the hell are we paying for then??? Has anyone else had these problems explained to them or ran into these hurdles?? We are seeking legal advise before proceeding with the building contract just in case. Building HEAVILY modified Verdehlo Four with Seaview Facade in Nowra NSW Floorplan available on page 152 Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 2Mar 27, 2013 8:18 am Hey scottB We had the same sort of problems. At least the facade choice now includes the garage door in the style as depicted. The sarking inclusion is a matter of debate, as to whether you need it or not, but I would recommend you get it anyway - it is more energy efficient, and will make a big difference to the performance of your roof. What you are paying for is the extra bricks, labour and materials for an upgraded facade. Be sure to check out your facade in the flesh if you can - they are hard to make out on the little picture and look different for real. Not sure what money you handed over, but this sort of thing should have been sorted out in the tender process. We had a bunch of revisions post paying $5500 through to signing the contract, so its not unusual to change things around. Happy to answer any other questions you might have - we have been through the process you are going through with Beechwood, so I know how you feel. Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 3Mar 27, 2013 8:21 am Hi Scott, That a look at the "who is building with beechwood" forum. Its 107 pages long & has lots of info. We were building a verdelho 5 but have now decided to go with the Cremorne, pending the tender. Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 4Mar 27, 2013 10:44 am Thanx guys for your input on this subject. It just annoys the hell out of me as this is our first brand new home, that these things are not explained upfront before handing over any money and are now locked into building with them as the deposit is non refundable, and the information regarding the roof is only presented to you when your plans are about to go to council and you have paid a deposit, not at the planning stage of deciding on a builder!! Will keep you all informed of the progression of this as it unfolds. In the meantime will now have to go back and address budget and where we wanted to upgrade etc. There may be a possibility of false or misleading advertising with these issues but will wait for further legal advice before commenting further. Building HEAVILY modified Verdehlo Four with Seaview Facade in Nowra NSW Floorplan available on page 152 Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 5Mar 27, 2013 12:32 pm Hi Scott, Sorry you have had a bump in your building journey so early I have heard this a few times with BW regarding the sarking. It didn't affect me only because of our bushfire basix etc included the cost of sarking (so it did cost us, but we knew about it up front) It seems to be such an issue, BW should have that significant cost up front in their tender. When you got your tender did it say in there anywhere about sarking? The sales consultant I have dealt with said right at the beginning to remember that only what is in your tender is what is included. If it doesn't have it in the tender it's going to cost extra Where abouts are you building? And which facade did you upgrade to? Cheers Wiz Wiz Built @ Brooks Reach Built the Verdelho Guest with Beechwood Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 6Mar 27, 2013 12:58 pm Hi Scott It must depend on the expertise of the salesperson. Our tender included the extra charge for sarking with the colour bond roof. What it didn't include is the thermal blanket recommended by other builders to reduce noise etc. Another builder quoted almost $4k for this. Beechwood never suggested it, we had to ask for it, but believe it will make a huge difference. I am not technical, but my partner says, yes, we must have it with the colour bond. Therefore we are paying an extra $7k for the luxury of a colour bond roof. Having said that, aren't most tiled roofs sarked also? Regards Ally Deposit paid to Masterton 30/05/13 Contracts signed and 5% deposit paid 09/10/13 CDC Approval 14/11/13 Slab 22/01/14 Frame 18/02/14 Brickwork 14/03/14 Roof 22/03/14 Lock Up 11/04/14 Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 7Apr 29, 2013 3:42 pm We stuck with the old style tiles from PGH and we saw how they were in the Haywards Bay display home and were impressed. We were told that sarking is optional and not a must so we dropped it as we went for tiles. It depends on which person you speak makes the difference. We were even refunded some money back when we changed our tender and did not realise we have a credit back. I am yet to find a fault with BW, but I have not started building, just waiting for endless approval letters to come through. WE have signed the contract though. To say, we are building our first home a Verdelho Twist with Jazz , yeah old style but suits us. Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 8Apr 29, 2013 4:33 pm nervousdude We stuck with the old style tiles from PGH and we saw how they were in the Haywards Bay display home and were impressed. We were told that sarking is optional and not a must so we dropped it as we went for tiles. It depends on which person you speak makes the difference. We were even refunded some money back when we changed our tender and did not realise we have a credit back. I am yet to find a fault with BW, but I have not started building, just waiting for endless approval letters to come through. WE have signed the contract though. To say, we are building our first home a Verdelho Twist with Jazz , yeah old style but suits us. Hi Nervousdude, I am also building a genesis series house with beechwood and we were also told by Beechwood that sparking was not necessary. But the more that we investigated and the more professionals we spoke to we were constantly told the opposite. I don't want to tell you what to do but maybe look into it a bit, because it is something you can't add later. Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 9Apr 30, 2013 8:26 am Hi everyone, and all thanks for your input into this hotly debated topic......We have decided to still go with the colourbond roofing and have come to an arrangement with the builder in regards to cost, but there is a catch in that the sarking is only the minimum requirement with no thermal blanket and I believe the cost being charged to us is excessive for the product being supplied and I have sought independant sarking experts to verify this!!! Still annoyed but want to get on and build....In relation to other questions asked the plan is the Verdelho four with a Bedarra main bedroon with onsuite out to the eaves and a triple garage including a walk in pantry and office space and the facade is the Seaview Trio with Moroka finish as well as the Basix and Site costs and Council fees is about $100,000 over initial house costs and we havent even priced the kitchen changes yet..!! So you can see we are not making minor changes.....nor denying their other costs associated with the design, so you think the might come to the party a little better than they have.... Building HEAVILY modified Verdehlo Four with Seaview Facade in Nowra NSW Floorplan available on page 152 Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 10May 03, 2013 11:44 pm Our home nervousdude We stuck with the old style tiles from PGH and we saw how they were in the Haywards Bay display home and were impressed. We were told that sarking is optional and not a must so we dropped it as we went for tiles. It depends on which person you speak makes the difference. We were even refunded some money back when we changed our tender and did not realise we have a credit back. I am yet to find a fault with BW, but I have not started building, just waiting for endless approval letters to come through. WE have signed the contract though. To say, we are building our first home a Verdelho Twist with Jazz , yeah old style but suits us. Hi Nervousdude, I am also building a genesis series house with beechwood and we were also told by Beechwood that sparking was not necessary. But the more that we investigated and the more professionals we spoke to we were constantly told the opposite. I don't want to tell you what to do but maybe look into it a bit, because it is something you can't add later. Ah Man.. thanks for the info. It's too late for me to include the Sarking as we've all signed up and slab is almost on it's way Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 11May 04, 2013 9:11 am nervousdude Our home nervousdude We stuck with the old style tiles from PGH and we saw how they were in the Haywards Bay display home and were impressed. We were told that sarking is optional and not a must so we dropped it as we went for tiles. It depends on which person you speak makes the difference. We were even refunded some money back when we changed our tender and did not realise we have a credit back. I am yet to find a fault with BW, but I have not started building, just waiting for endless approval letters to come through. WE have signed the contract though. To say, we are building our first home a Verdelho Twist with Jazz , yeah old style but suits us. Hi Nervousdude, I am also building a genesis series house with beechwood and we were also told by Beechwood that sparking was not necessary. But the more that we investigated and the more professionals we spoke to we were constantly told the opposite. I don't want to tell you what to do but maybe look into it a bit, because it is something you can't add later. Ah Man.. thanks for the info. It's too late for me to include the Sarking as we've all signed up and slab is almost on it's way /quote] Maybe if you spoke to the roofing people they would let you pay cash for the sarking. Just a thought. Our quote was 1800 for it. Maybe you could even get it cheaper dealing direct with the trades people. RoCo on Chase Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 12May 04, 2013 9:26 am Hi Ourhome, Unfortunatly as it is an inclusion for them I cannot deal directly with the roofing company to do this otherwise believe me I would.......I have heard the same about sarking and roof tiles, as mine now doesnt have any except for batts so I wonder what the real saving is....Glad to hear your going for a Verdelho twist Jazz.....Are you including a slab for the Terraza area?? Building HEAVILY modified Verdehlo Four with Seaview Facade in Nowra NSW Floorplan available on page 152 Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 13May 04, 2013 9:38 am ScottB_33 Hi Ourhome, Unfortunatly as it is an inclusion for them I cannot deal directly with the roofing company to do this otherwise believe me I would.......I have heard the same about sarking and roof tiles, as mine now doesnt have any except for batts so I wonder what the real saving is....Glad to hear your going for a Verdelho twist Jazz.....Are you including a slab for the Terraza area?? Hi Scott, We are actually building the Verdelho 5 Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ We went for the slab for the terraza as we got some advise from professional concreters and they told us that to do that later could cause problems. Doing it as an extension of the slab means that it will be piered into the ground. After construction though you have to drill into the existing slab to anchor the support beams . This voids your termite barrier warranty, and the fact that beechwood won't build with a steel frame makes this a bit of a worry. Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 14May 04, 2013 9:30 pm Thought as everyone else has been sharing their floorplans I would do likewise and invite comments or suggestions on improvements. I understand everyones idea of the perfect plan is different but if suggestions can help the plan to evolve and flow better every thought helps. Some of the changes that have been made but are not on the plan at this stage is the extra metre on the side of the garage as well as the cavity slider doors to the mud room to make more room as well as the extra linen cupboard behind the shower facing into the kitchen and the moving of the laundry into the back of the garage next to the kitchen cavity slider and the front linen facing back into the garage for extra storage space.....and finally a niche wall in the main bedroom and a shower niche as well...... http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r732/ScottB_33/ScottPlan_zps713ad4bc.jpg Building HEAVILY modified Verdehlo Four with Seaview Facade in Nowra NSW Floorplan available on page 152 Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 15Jan 14, 2014 1:51 pm For us, sarking is a council requirement. Not sure about the wool blanket in addition if you are ventilating the roof space adequately. Seems like a money spinner for BW. Im not going there, we live on the coast so expect ventilation and sarking alone will overcome a hot roof space. Stage 9b Seacrest, Flinders. Land Settled 31.3.14 Council Approved 16.5.14 Construction Commenced 20.6.14 Progress: Practical completion Check out our Building Blog: http://cudina.blogspot.com.au Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 16Jan 14, 2014 1:54 pm Oh, and storm clips... Stage 9b Seacrest, Flinders. Land Settled 31.3.14 Council Approved 16.5.14 Construction Commenced 20.6.14 Progress: Practical completion Check out our Building Blog: http://cudina.blogspot.com.au Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 17Mar 14, 2014 11:08 pm Make sure you have plenty saved for hidden costs because they are great for that.. Don't be fooled by their great sales teams. Feb 2013 Land Registered Jun Building Commencement Jul Site Benched Aug Slab Poured Sep Frames Oct Roof Oct Bricking Nov Fixout Jan 2014 Final walkthrough Feb 2014 Keys Given Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 18Mar 15, 2014 8:57 pm ScottB_33 Have just paid our deposit to build a Genesis series home and after handing over the money, have now been told that with the FREE colourbond roof that is part of their package with the house, that sarking MUST be used with the colourbond at our expense, We have also been informed that the upgraded facade we decided upon, doesnt come as the picture depicts with no lights or door as pictured!!! What the hell are we paying for then??? Has anyone else had these problems explained to them or ran into these hurdles?? We are seeking legal advise before proceeding with the building contract just in case. So where to start... We built the verdelho 4 but we closed one entry of the theatre room. The packages may have changed but ill just go through some things. We needed to add fill to our block which was on the plan and tender from the start. Though they didn't take into account the extra fill that the piers would need to be extended. For memory that was $4,000 extra that had to come out of our pocket as the bank loan amounts where done on the contract figures. We also were told by our neighbour that they were ready to pour the piers but they removed fill that was added yet we were charged the full amount. When our slab was poured they over flowed the alfresco area. So to fix this they sawed the extra off and just left it didn't edge it nothing. We complained about how it was left and the response was your going to tile aren't you? We cancelled tiles to the alfresco as we are decking later, which they were aware of. We also cancelled all floorings except wet areas. We found we could get 300x600 s and prestige carpet for the amount they gave back. They sent someone out to fix it and they just slapped render on which isn't straight and is very noticeable. Our slab was also not done straight or to the right size, so we have ended up with bricks that hang off the slab. Then we were informed by a near builder that we had rio showing from our slab. We didn't see cause the dirt was covering it. They had to come back out and to our surprise there were spots like this around the whole house. If this is to happen and gets left the rio will rust and cause concrete cancer. We wanted our brick mortar to be flush it was different around the whole house. We ordered the 3 stacker door they didn't put the bricks underneath soilder course they put them horizontal. Standing on the back door the frame was bending cause it had no support. They came back to fix it and then failed to do it straight. It was clear they started from one end then went to meet in the middle they got further out and just didn't bother fixing it. We got the 900 oven and rangehood with our package they don't get installed until you move in. Well our rangehood cannot be installed as they did not design our kitchen with a big enough space. We are still waiting to hear how this will be fixed. Possibly have to redo our kitchen reducing the bulk head making bigger cabinets. If your looking to save money do all your cabinet handles yourself. $25 EACH they wanted we found them for $6. Dishwasher we paid for the upgrade with the digital screen we were given the standard with a ding. Still waiting a replacement. The roof on the alfresco and a wall inside had to be reset as they weren't square. Try and check the plaster setting on your roof when its dark. Turn the light on and make sure there are no lines. We didn't noticed till we moved in and turned the light on. There are bumps in the ceiling. Don't think they give you light globes for your house +$200k doesn't get you those. Measure your bathroom vanities we had ours extended to fit the china bowls properly. Connecting the electricity and gas isn't included either that's roughly an extra $600 If you want to do downlights later.. Measure and mark out a plan where you would have them. Then put a standard light in that spot. Saves plastering holes and re painting. The Moroccan finish to the Seville 3 is not included its an extra. Its not the same as rendering in just gets slapped on very rough rushed finish. We didn't ask for this but it was done with which ever colour they picked. Im sure there is plenty more things but hopefully that helps.. if you have any questions feel free to ask. Feb 2013 Land Registered Jun Building Commencement Jul Site Benched Aug Slab Poured Sep Frames Oct Roof Oct Bricking Nov Fixout Jan 2014 Final walkthrough Feb 2014 Keys Given Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 19Mar 16, 2014 2:21 am Feb 2013 Land Registered Jun Building Commencement Jul Site Benched Aug Slab Poured Sep Frames Oct Roof Oct Bricking Nov Fixout Jan 2014 Final walkthrough Feb 2014 Keys Given Re: Building a Genesis Series Home with Beechwood/Need advic 20May 07, 2014 9:30 am Hi Bees_90 what bricks did you go with ?? We are building the verdelho 5 and i love your colours Hi Everyone, I am exploring builder in NSW and received a very tempting quote from Wisdom home for their momentum series. I just want to know experience of building… 0 8240 Thank you so much for the effort. We will use it to talk with builder. 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