Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Aug 29, 2012 9:02 am Hi All, I m a newbie to this site and had been doing quite a bit of research on building house recently. Now, we are kind of making a decision to build a new house at Oran Park. It is a shame that our budget is very low and we have only got around 450k (including the land)...but we are looking for building a single storey house in a small block of land only (less than 450m2). I am just wonder if this budget is possible to build an acceptable house? What I have told by Fowler home is the fact that the price they offer is a fixed price. However, after going through all the thread in this forum and I kind of expect that it should not be the case at all. I was also told that the whole process only take 6-8 process but it seems that it is not the case for everyone. I knew a lot of you take long than 1 year to build a house. So, I am just writing to see if anyone here are doing the same thing in Oran Park and able to share their experience with me. P.S. I don't pick the land yet as Oran park has recently been sold out all the small block of land...now I am still at the very beginning stage! Thank you! Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 2Aug 29, 2012 10:08 am The issue that you are going to have is that until you purchase the land you will not be able to determine all of the sites costs etc which can be a big variable in the whole process. If you manage to get one of the cheapest blocks when release (200K) you should be able to get a home built at or under 250K. What I would suggest is look at homes you like, look at the base price and add 100K and you should be around the end cost to build it. Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 3Aug 29, 2012 10:26 am I am building with fowler at the moment and our price varied due to site costs and extra piering things like that. So I would say the price is fixed but watch for your site costs. And also im sure its different if your building on pre approved land in an estate but we signed with fowler in late 2010 we are hopefully going to get handover within the month. So that was 2 years and just over 1 year actually building so far. So be careful if you are concerned with your time line with fowler I would warn. www.tinas-cakery.com Building a Monte Carlo with Fowler Homes. Our Build Thread --> https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=49218 Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 4Aug 29, 2012 1:38 pm I would say that it is all down to how cheap you can build the house You need to factor in lots of things that arent covered by the build of the home. landscaping and landscape plans if required by Oran Park fences retaining walls etc (you may think the land is flat but you will be very surprised at how quickly you will require retaining walls) connections to Telstra, energy suppliers, their depoits etc variations to the house that you may want site costs/piering conveyancing estate costs if any removalists or truck rental I would be very careful of anyone who said things were fixed as there will always be a loop hole or some way that they will get you to pay extra. What i would be doing is budgeting on about $400k for the home and land to be sure you have something substantial left over. I would then also be prepared to kiss half of that goodbye in a hurry on odds and ends. Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 5Aug 29, 2012 1:49 pm BradS landscaping and landscape plans if required by Oran Park Landscape Plans are required at Oran Park but can help out with software and the basic designs required if you build out there. I intend on doing all my Landscaping work myself, with the help of family and friends that will be rewarded with beers and BBQ's Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 6Aug 29, 2012 2:01 pm They would probably also want a deposit then to ensure that the landscaping is carried out within a desired timeframe? and that its been done per the landscape plan? I know deposits are refundable but unless you have the money laying around its just another thing to consider Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 7Aug 29, 2012 2:52 pm No deposit required, they give a rebate of $5000 if you have your home fenced and Landscaping completed within 24 months of Construction. The requirements for Oran Park on a block you are talking about would be: 1 x Front Yard Tree (6-8m) 1 x Back yard Tree (8-10m) 1 x Driveway 1 x Letterbox (Pier Style) Planting to seperate edge of property (Front) from Council Land Turf Gates 2m behind the front of the house can not be a solid material Obviously the $5,000 rebate wont cover everything but at least you get something back if you comply with requirements. A friend of mine in the estate decided he didn't want the $5,000 so has not completed anything to the estate guidelines. He has his full OC Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 8Aug 29, 2012 3:09 pm Look like building time is an issue for us as we are also paying another mortage that we are living now. so...I should expect another 100k on top of the based price. it seems to be way over our budget as we were thinking to build a complete house under 450k. Apparently the land over there cost around 210k to 220k plus the house price...The cheapest package for the house is another 200k. All up it will be around 400k plus the 100k allowance. This is sad... Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 9Aug 29, 2012 3:33 pm Is that price the base house price or a price they are giving you with estimated Site Costs etc? You can get a basic single story for around $150,000 (I'm adding 100K to that price). I would suggest heading to the display homes and finding out. What is on display is usually their signature homes that are the most costly. Most also have more budget designs that they do not have display homes of so you have to choose those from floor plans. As an example you could go with something like this - http://allworthhomes.com.au/index.php?o ... &Itemid=17 With this you would have to pay site costs, upgrades & landscaping (driveway etc) which you should be able to get under 100K. It depends on the upgrades etc. As an example the home I am building has no Carpet/Tiling and should be able to cover that and the above of 100K once I finish. I could have it done cheaper if I went for less or lower quality fixtures. I have looked into doing an investment from a new build and doing a basic house should be able to come in around the 450K mark. dependant on the size of the block I purchased Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 10Aug 29, 2012 3:38 pm I should also say that I'm still living in the place atm that I am paying a mortgage. I am now paying the Land Mortgage and soon will be paying the Construction Mortgage as well. I allowed prior to going down this track to have cash reserves to pay it all for 12 months if required. My current home can also be rented out to cover the mortgage if required once we move. I'm doing this with a single income with my wife a stay at home mum, if you budget correctly you should be able to manage it. Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 11Aug 29, 2012 5:16 pm what they said is the fact that the house is ready to live with that price. in the booklet, it state that it include the basic site cost but I assume it refers to some very flat land with good soil etc. However, I did a bit of research on this forum that I found out most of the package price that the builder listed in their booklet isn't the final price. It is the issues that really worry me. Moreover, does any of you know how does the payment to the build normally work? I was told I need to settle the land first (which mean I have to start the repayment for the land) then once the house is built. We then settle the payment for the house. Is that what you are doing too? Again ...thank you so much for all your advice...it does help me out a lot! We are just starting from scratch.... Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 12Aug 29, 2012 6:00 pm As soon as the land settles you start paying repayments on that part of the mortgage. As you build as each progressive payment happens, that amount is added to your construction loan. Our construction loan is an interest only loan... Until we move in. I also have another mortgage on my first property. Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 13Aug 29, 2012 8:22 pm The other option you have is to by a house and land package that a builder is already building. There are a few that do it in the area. I know we looked at some late last year at Elderslie around that price. If they are still around they may suit you better. The other option is move back in with the parent's and all your current place 2 Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 14Aug 29, 2012 10:29 pm I am going through all the leaflet now...with fowler home, there is a packaged called Finito Package which include the following: Tiles to living areas Carpet to balance of home Driveway including crossover (Stencil concrete driveway, plain concrete to council crossover) Site costs (including Salinity requirements if required,Up to H Class concrete slab,Piering under concrete slab,Deepened edge beams as required,Removal of excess fill as required,Importation of fill as required,council conditions) Basix (Basix requirements allowance,3000L above ground rainwater tank) what other cost would be involve if we decide to build a house? (assuming we dont do any upgrade?) , i knew that site cost can be varied...but what other cost should I be awared of? my question may still be too vague...hope someone here who build their house with Fowler would share their experience with me! Thanks! Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 15Aug 29, 2012 10:41 pm Not building with fowler but you will need $ for turf, fly screens and blinds, clothesline, letterbox, fences. Do fowler homes include kitchen appliances? Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 16Aug 29, 2012 11:08 pm True... it seems that they dun include turf, fly screens and blinds, clothesline, letterbox, fences... But they do include the kitchen appliances...anything else you guyz can think of? I will write them into a paper and check with them this weekend...THanks! Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 17Aug 29, 2012 11:17 pm Light bulbs... The electrical appointment is the one I am worried about... We have that next month... The standard is one double PowerPoint, one batten and one switch per room... Check this with your builder. I know I want to upgrade this to at least3 pp master bedroom, and then 2 doubles in most rooms, I want a few two way switches... Turn on at entry and turn off at the eit of a room. I know most people do downlighting after handover but I am thinking of getting theatre and kitchen done at time of build... I have started to look at light fittings, and they are an another additional cost... Oh also forgot tv points, only one is standard, phone points, again one is generally standard, and don't forget antenna!!! Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 18Aug 29, 2012 11:20 pm I think you need to ask yourself how long is a piece of string.... Building can be as costly as you want it to be, depends on what level you want your house to be when you get the keys... Regardless any home is never finished, there is always something to be done. I want to build cause I love the layout and location, and I can't buy established for what I want to spend without making renovations. Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 19Aug 29, 2012 11:35 pm Thanks you all of your information and comments. YEa..I agreed with you. I am not a picky person and I dont really fussy about the material that we will use. But i am trying to get an idea on what other hidden cost that I am not aware of but it is vital to our daily life in the house. so...i can include them in our budget and work out how much we need to borrow from the bank and give it a room for some extra costs. the curtain issue you rasied in the last thread was cool..i totally didnt aware of this issue...haha! Thanks! by the way..would you mind to tell us where are you building your house? Re: NEed you advice building in Oran park 20Aug 29, 2012 11:49 pm Harrington park in the gardens estate. Built a Hawthorne 31 with EB nessjeffdreamhouse.blogspot.com.au Building an investment now with New Living homes... We are at nearly finished... Just landscaping and driveway to go! Thank you so much for the effort. We will use it to talk with builder. 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