Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Simonds Home HIA Contract Alternative2 Progress Payment 2Aug 25, 2012 11:34 am The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: Simonds Home HIA Contract Alternative2 Progress Payment 5Aug 25, 2012 11:48 pm ----------------------------------------------- http://pab34newdigs.blogspot.com.au/ ----------------------------------------------- Re: Simonds Home HIA Contract Alternative2 Progress Payment 12Sep 30, 2012 10:42 pm ----------------------------------------------- http://pab34newdigs.blogspot.com.au/ ----------------------------------------------- Re: Simonds Home HIA Contract Alternative2 Progress Payment 14Mar 08, 2013 1:12 pm Really, almost 6 months to respond? Anyway, where to start..... leighton I dont know what you are on about. The point I’m trying to make is in regards to a schedule of works (not payments - though one should be linked with the other). The more details the client has of the building process (provided by the builder) the less angst the client feels as to what is and what’s not in each progress payment. Having this all presented at the beginning of the project is how I’d expect most projects to start. My builder has a schedule of works so I know what tasks have to occur to meet a percentage level of completion. Now during the project he sends (every fortnight) an update of the schedule with dates that each task are to be completed by. e.g. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=384437308273675&set=a.282604331790307.83322.282579275126146&type=3&theater I know exactly what was completed by the progress payment milestone and I know what is yet to be completed before the next progress payment and approximately when then next payment will be due. In my working environment I work on the delivery side of the fence. The companies I work for design large engineering and commercial building projects. These projects live and die by the schedule of works with every payment linked to specific gates/milestones of construction or deliverables. I just expect this process, albeit scaled down, would be used by builders. leighton A simple reading the comment above mine shows what all builders know. The post which I think you are referring to highlights the confusion of both not sticking to the HIA contract terms and a lack of a detailed list of items (frame going up, plumbing rough-in, etc) so both the builder and the home owner can agree on what tasks do constitute part of what stage of the build. As for what all builders know - I have no idea what you're talking about. leighton One has to have a schedule in the contract and the owner has to follow that payment schedule. Correct – But to follow the payment schedule how does the client know what tasks of the building process are included in which stage, if they have been completed and then release funds or not. The standard contract has some one line examples of what a BASE stage is, the FRAMED stage, etc. but I would have thought as part of providing a service the builder would give the client a list of tasks so the client understands what is included in each stage (like driveways, rock removal, etc). The builder has to know when these tasks are going to happen so they can plan the project (I know I’m straying into uncharted waters now of assuming this is what builders actually do.....) leighton the discussion is about what might be fair rather than whether or not the builder actually has a schedule in his contract, something that he is required by law to have. What ‘might’ be fair has got nothing to do with it, this topic is all about the contractual terms set out in the HIA contract to protect the interests of both parties. A client enters into a commercial agreement with a builder to provide goods/services, that being a new home (the contract does include a schedule of payments, required by law, but not too much else in the way of details) That’s it. leighton I prefer to stick to the topic. thanks The original post questioned how to enforce the terms of the standard HIA contract – simple as that. Most people responded with reference to legislation or their own experiences/advice on solving this matter. Your 2 posts responding “...it’s only progress payments and relax” and “...builder’s can do extra work but still only get 10%” (yes, I paraphrased a little...) didn’t quite hit the mark if you were sticking to the topic. If I wander away from the original topic it’s for a reason. My last post was in direct response to your post above hence the quote in my post. Ultimately, if someone about to sign a contract for a new home can take away a little of what they learn in these forums thus making them a more informed consumer the better for everyone. ----------------------------------------------- http://pab34newdigs.blogspot.com.au/ ----------------------------------------------- You talk about deletions, are they variations or PS and PC adjustments? pleas list them 1 16542 10 12255 Unless there is something in special conditions the builder does not have to give you timeline. If your demolition contractor has not removed Asbestos and it was found… 12 28775 |