Hi,
dose anyone know if you can find out any costs associated with this on the internet. We are building very soon and they are currently rolling it out in our area and I am trying to work out what we need to budget for.
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Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 25, 2012 10:54 am Hi, dose anyone know if you can find out any costs associated with this on the internet. We are building very soon and they are currently rolling it out in our area and I am trying to work out what we need to budget for. Thanks 29/05/12 - Contacts Signed 18/06/12 - Land Settlement 03/07/12 - Building Approval 20/07/12 - Slab Down National Broadband Network 2May 25, 2012 12:29 pm Hi There is no cost to connect the NBN to your premises - the NBN connects for free when they roll out in your area. There are some guidelines for builders on the nbnco web site that provide details of power point requirements etc. You may also want to consider installing some data cabling from a cabinet in a central point to allow you to provide cabled Internet access at key points in your house - this will be at your cost. Paul Re: National Broadband Network 3May 25, 2012 12:42 pm Speak to your builder about it and have provisions put into your house. I believe this is a 10 amp GPO and one or two conduits (from the street to the nbn box outside, and from that box to where the cabinet will be installed in your house) you will need to double check this, because we are querying it at the moment, because I thought there was supposed to be two conduits, but I cannot find the internal one :/ Your builder may have something called a telecomunications package that will include what is needed for the nbn and probably some other things like an additional tv and phone point. Our communications package was $700. As paul said above you will want to add some additional data cabling if you have a home theatre box or tv that requires a wired network connection, same for any pcs or laptops. Re: National Broadband Network 5May 25, 2012 3:17 pm were building with BB, cost us $2600 for 4 cat 6 points,condiuts and trench. Re: National Broadband Network 6Jun 06, 2012 7:40 am Thanks I am still totally confused by it all but I am sure we'll work it out 29/05/12 - Contacts Signed 18/06/12 - Land Settlement 03/07/12 - Building Approval 20/07/12 - Slab Down Re: National Broadband Network 7Jun 06, 2012 8:27 am The only difference between having the NBN rolled-out past your front door, and getting (I dunno) iiNet in to provide you with internet access, is that the NBN has a name widely associated with media hoo-hah. It's still just internet access, and I can't see why the issues you'd be considering when building a house would be any different than if you were considering getting cable TV connected. It really just involves some cables running past your house, and someone has to connect your house to those cables. Inside your house, you might want to do a few things to set your internet-access up "nicely"; but these aren't any different to what people might consider if the NBN wasn't going past their house. Stuff like a neat spot inside a cupboard for the cable-modem to sit, so it's not sitting on the floor in the loungeroom like it is in our old house; and of course some cabling to get from that spot to other places in the house. One warning, though, relating to all that cabling to other places in the house. It's tempting to "just in case" run cables everywhere ... your 'fridge will probably want internet access soon, if you've got house-automation then the controller might want internet access, eveyone will probably want internet-access from their bedroom, the TV/audio setup definitely wants internet access, offices etc, maybe even in the alfresco. However - don't forget wireless! I've spoken to a few people who "just in case" ran network wiring to a dozen-or-so rooms from the cabinet which their modem is sitting inside, and in the end they all ended-up using wireless networking instead (even if you want to use your laptop at your home-office desk, it's just neater turning it on & it automatically connects wirelessly, rather than having to plug cables in). In short - before going overboard with network ("ethernet") wiring in the new house, think about how people will be accessing the network ... wireless is too slow to watch a TV show over, but it's fast enough to download that TV show to your computer or media-player and THEN watch it at a later time. Re: National Broadband Network 8Jun 06, 2012 8:37 am Quote: Thanks I am still totally confused by it all but I am sure we'll work it out As far as I understand it, and if I have it wrong please feel free to correct me, NBN Co (or whichever contractor who is laying the optic fibre in your estate) won't actually run the optic fibre to your house, only to the front of it. Therefore you need to pay your builder to run the fibre to your house and install all necessary provisions to use it. The provisions include a modem type device, which normally sits in your garage, and data points throughout the house that are connected to the modem in the garage, so you can plug your computer/telephone/TV into them. Cost always differs with area and builder but I had to pay $1800 with PD for the trench and conduits (for the connection of fibre to the garage), all the hardware, and 2 data points in the house. Not as good a deal as Nayzv but what can ya do! Hope this makes things a little clearer! Re: National Broadband Network 9Jun 06, 2012 8:43 am NBN is not just internet access. You don't get copper at all if you get NBN, so you need to use it for a phone line as well (VoIP will work fine over fibre). Aside from the fact NBN is way faster and it won't be long until you see TV stations that only broadcast over the NBN. Re: National Broadband Network 11Jun 06, 2012 10:27 am i have been in my house for months now and still no NBN, i get promised that it will be ready every second week. so i have no land line or internet at home. Does anyone else have the same problem? P.S. I am at Glenmore Ridge. Re: National Broadband Network 12Jun 06, 2012 1:15 pm Snakes Quote: Thanks I am still totally confused by it all but I am sure we'll work it out As far as I understand it, and if I have it wrong please feel free to correct me, NBN Co (or whichever contractor who is laying the optic fibre in your estate) won't actually run the optic fibre to your house, only to the front of it. Therefore you need to pay your builder to run the fibre to your house and install all necessary provisions to use it. The provisions include a modem type device, which normally sits in your garage, and data points throughout the house that are connected to the modem in the garage, so you can plug your computer/telephone/TV into them. This depends on whether the fibre has already been rolled out in the street in question or not - NBNCo will get their contractors to run the fibre to the NBN box on your premises for free if they can do the connection as the same time as they are rolling out fibre in the street - often they will use the same conduits that are used for your other services as well (but they can run conduit to the external termination point if they have to). Most of what you're paying for with the builder is the home networking hub the builder wants to provide you with and any cabling you're going to need for phone/tv/data. Some people apparently have nothing better to do than comment on other people's sigs. Re: National Broadband Network 13Jun 06, 2012 2:25 pm I was at the Sydney Home Show last week and had a detailed chat to the NBN Co rep there. You need to provide two conduits. First one is from the property boundary to an external wall. The second one is from the external wall to a place inside the house where you would like the fibre to terminate (I intend on having a central network node under the stairs). The conduit needs to be certain spec, e.g. 25mm, and any bends cannot be more than a certain radius (don't have the spec sheet on me but should be easy to google for it). NBN Co will then install fibre to the external wall (where they will install one box) and into the property to the internal termination point. At the internal point, they will install 3 further boxes: 1) A battery back device to service phone lines in case power fails, 2) A laser which sends the signal down the fibre, and 3) A Network Terminating Device, which is where you plug in your network (Wifi/Switch/Router). I only queried about getting NBN in an established suburb, but once the conduits are in, NBN Co will run the fibre and install the boxes. I've heard for new estates there may be a charge back type scheme (can anyone else confirm?). Builders will usually try to sell you a data package which is basically running cables through your house. Note, the Hills Home Hub is NOT provided by NBN Co. It is an addon service/devices which some builders will provide and is NOT mandatory. For those who are technically minded, one interesting thing I found out is that you can have up to 4 *separate* service providers to your property on the fibre connection. So you may have one service provider for your personal use and work may pay for a separate one. With this in mind, if you are intending on installing data cabling, it's probably wise to install multiple runs of data cable from the termination point to allow for this. Re: National Broadband Network 14Jun 06, 2012 9:30 pm This is all good for most of us but what will happen for existing/old areas. For example A two story home that has the front yard all landscaped/concreted. Are you expected to dig up your garden/driveway for the first conduit then cut holes all through your house for the second conduit?? Can all of the equipment be placed externally?? Then wireless to the rest of the house? Still Waiting for Titles!!!! Re: National Broadband Network 15Jun 08, 2012 10:44 pm nutta This is all good for most of us but what will happen for existing/old areas. For example A two story home that has the front yard all landscaped/concreted. Are you expected to dig up your garden/driveway for the first conduit then cut holes all through your house for the second conduit?? Can all of the equipment be placed externally?? Then wireless to the rest of the house? I should have qualified my post to say that I was looking at a knock-down-rebuild in an established area so was directing my questions to the NBN Co rep accordingly. I'm not sure how fibre will run from the boundary to an established property, but if you don't have a second conduit inside the house, they will install it on the inside wall behind where the fibre enters the house- usually to the garage Re: National Broadband Network 16Jun 13, 2012 8:43 pm I'm building at stonehill and they charged approx $2500 for all of the nbn setup charges including conduit and pit and cabling - this included all TV points and everything else that kind of goes with it Re: National Broadband Network 17Jun 13, 2012 9:12 pm NBN??? What is this phenomenon?? Some proposed project for faster internet.? Checked the website. Shame they cannot even list when infrastructure may even reach here. Talking 2015 +++++++ Bloody pathetic. It will be out of date before we even get it. Whilst I live in regional Vic, we are not remote and a major terrorist (sorry tourist) destination. Sorry but this is just a load of crap. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: National Broadband Network 18Jun 13, 2012 10:29 pm The NBN won't be out of date by 2015, and the rollout is a large complex project of digging and upgrades to various exchanges etc. Which is why it will come to different areas at different times, at sometimes odd sequences. Its not proposed, its happening, and will replace all the copper in the house. I'm not sure why builders see fit to charge for NBN from the kerb to the house - NBN co will cover that at install time. Cabling your house to have a network etc is useful and a good idea, NBN or no NBN, and probably around $2500 is about right for the whole place. The conduit from the st and pit and cabling will be covered in the NBN rollout phase I thought, so I don't see why builders are charging for it. If someone can post a link where I can understand more about this issue that would be good. http://www.nbnco.com.au/getting-connect ... -faqs.html This page doesn't seem to make it clear one way or another. http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/document ... he-nbn.pdf This seems to make it clear that running the fibre from the st is included in the setup. From the brochure: "If your premises is not already connected to the NBN, the installation will include running a fibre-optic cable from the street to a small box on the outside of your house (the Premises Connection Device). The installer will then drill a small hole through your wall and feed the cable through into a wall plate that will be installed inside the house. A cable runs from there to the Network Termination Device, which looks like a broadband modem." Be careful of builders who are trying to charge for something you don't need or will get for free later. Re: National Broadband Network 19Jun 13, 2012 11:01 pm While cabling everywhere in your house is an option I think as mentioned previously wireless is a better option for something's. Seriously I don't care if my fridge has Internet in a few years I know that it will only need a few kb connection. Wireless can handle more throughput than most people can download at presently. I would suggest connections to entertainment and office zones in your house and wireless for general stuff. I have data running to my media room, family room, pantry ( where the wireless route will live ) and a couple to the garage for my servers (IT nerd here) I was originally going to go crazy with cables but with my current home have 2 cables from my computer room to the man lounge for my PS3 and blue ray player and wireless is fine for the rest 2 Re: National Broadband Network 20Jun 13, 2012 11:19 pm I Agree dvestate, I have a wd tv Live Wireless Media Player. I also have a "copy" of Transformers Dark of the moon Blu ray which is 44.5GB. Yeah I know. The Media player givea a bit rate reading if you want it it. When Transformers is playing is reads about 50Mb per second. My router is wirelss N which they claim can run upto 300Mbps. They can probably do speeds 10 times that now but we all know that drip feeding consumers makes more money. Fiber to the home will be great but paying thousands for copper throughout may not be IMAO. Still Waiting for Titles!!!! |