Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 01, 2012 11:53 am We haven't signed our contract yet but whilst reading it, we discovered that the floorboards come sanded but not stained. Okay so which part of 'everything you see in the display home is included in the base price' did I not get?? Oh except this, except that. There is also a fire place that is in the display but is an extra - not that I am too bothered about that but it's still deceiving. Is that common about the floorboards? Along with all the other exclusions it certainly adds up. Eg: no carpet, curtains, driveway, cooling and whatever else. Compared to my sister who is in the process of building their house and land package including absolutely everything, sometimes I feel a bit gypped. My Hamptons build (completed): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63370 Moved in Wednesday 11th Dec 2013 Front landscaping completed June 2016 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 2May 01, 2012 12:11 pm You definitely have to pay attention to contracts. We are doing a custom build, and one builder quoted us but neglected to include extermal doors to the kitchen and laundry - like I was planning on having these big open gaps there! Don't know about standard things for floorboards sorry, but glad you picked it up before you signed. Also keep an eye out for flyscreens and a clothesline, these are often omitted... Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 3May 01, 2012 3:55 pm Good luck getting a sales agent give you a straight answer to the question "So how much for this house as displayed?" Over the past 5 years I have been through 50+ display homes and only one sales rep has given me a straight answer - and you know what if I was to build through a project builder, I would have gone with her company.. Our builder specialises in turnkey which just make the process so much easier Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 4May 01, 2012 4:19 pm Definitely no fly screens or anything. It is absolute minimum in terms of inclusions. On the flip side, the house style is exactly what we want and has been highly customised to adhere to what we wanted, in that sense they've been sensational. For a price though. The joys of building ... Yes I don't see why the process can't be a bit more transparent. We're going to find out at some stage what the costs are and what's extra, why not just tell us at the start? My Hamptons build (completed): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63370 Moved in Wednesday 11th Dec 2013 Front landscaping completed June 2016 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 5May 01, 2012 4:27 pm because hearing that end figure up front would scare too many people away.... Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 6May 01, 2012 4:59 pm I understand that, but that doesn't change what it's going to cost, and they can still walk away once they realise what the full costs are My Hamptons build (completed): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63370 Moved in Wednesday 11th Dec 2013 Front landscaping completed June 2016 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 7May 01, 2012 5:06 pm I think the one that surprised me was toilet roll holders and towel rails. That just seemed silly, as they're not exactly a high cost item, and who doesn't want toilet roll holders!!! Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 8May 01, 2012 5:12 pm Yeah. And it's those little things you of course don't think about. My Hamptons build (completed): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63370 Moved in Wednesday 11th Dec 2013 Front landscaping completed June 2016 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 9May 01, 2012 5:21 pm Agree with what everyone has said - so important to check the inclusions properly. When I first started looking at inclusion lists I had no idea what should or shouldn't be in, so it wasn't until I had a few to compare to that I could pick out what was missing. But even then that relies on it being listed on someone's inclusions. I can't believe toilet holders would be left off?!? The only project home companies that I recall had a good list of extras (not in the display home) was Westminster (who have now gone under) and Rawson. Masterton sales agents at Warwick Farm were as helpful as a block of mud. SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 10May 01, 2012 8:00 pm I have found a good guide for building is 250k for a house ( shell ) plus 100 k to finish. This varies with size of block and approx four million other items plus personal preferences that differ More than Ben cousins council. Use a percentage to alter the finish cost with changes in the build cost. Unless its a whole package thing , builders don't build homes , they build you a shell and then you make it into a home. Luck. Timeline Aug 08-Land Mar 09-Demo/Titles Sept 10-Handover No1 Sept 11-Handover No2 April 12-Sold No2 Aug 14-Land/Demo Jan 15-Slabs viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25736 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 11May 01, 2012 8:28 pm Good point Echo. Yes, since I have been researching (too long now!) it seems a fair bet is base price (whatever that is) plus $100K. Then I would add an extra $50K for upgraded inclusions (eg. tile upgrade, glass splashback, appliance upgrade, extra lights and powerpoints, the list goes on and on for upgrades). We ended up going custom though (originally were looking at project home companies as their base prices are very attractive). SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 12May 01, 2012 10:29 pm Well, ours is looking to be base price + $ 90k including site costs (our land is on a 3.5m downward slope) so I guess it's within the ballpark. Our house is based on their platinum range so a lot of the stuff included is premium, so that's good too. My Hamptons build (completed): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63370 Moved in Wednesday 11th Dec 2013 Front landscaping completed June 2016 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 13May 03, 2012 3:03 pm Have you ever heard the phrase " A verbal contract isnt worth the paper its written on" Showing prices "from" or dressing up a display home to present the house in the best light are all marketing ploys used by all builder's. But when it comes down to parting with money, in this country you are required to have a building contract. This contract shows ALL inclusions and any queries you have MUST be answered by the builder. If you didn't read the contract and understand it all BEFORE signing, then I'm sorry its YOUR own fault. As buying a home is the likely the single biggest purchase most Australian's will make in their lifetime, it stagger's me how many simply dont fully read and fully understand the contract before signing. I get this all the time when people buy land, ask me to design a house and then complain about a clause that requires a certain setback or a certain colour requirement Its good to see that the OP did read the contract, before signing and at least can sign knowing about additional costs or exclusions Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 15May 04, 2012 9:56 am munta Its good to see that the OP did read the contract, before signing and at least can sign knowing about additional costs or exclusions I'm glad you added this part, otherwise I was going to write 'did you not read my post? I didn't say I did not understand, I just said I thought finished floorboards should be standard inclusions and not extras' My Hamptons build (completed): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63370 Moved in Wednesday 11th Dec 2013 Front landscaping completed June 2016 Re: Annoyed about exclusions that should be standard 16May 05, 2012 12:53 pm Door stops, fly screens, obscure glass in the toilet and bathroom windows...probably more but off the top of my head that's all I can think of. What irks me the most is that I wouldn't have minded being charged for these things in the first place so why not just include them in the contracted price! Quote: Showing prices "from" or dressing up a display home to present the house in the best light are all marketing ploys used by all builder's. I like the display homes that start off with the price of the house as displayed, and then gives you a list of all the extras that you can take off if you don't want them. 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