Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 21Apr 29, 2012 6:03 pm Our current house has a Surfmist roof and we've selected the same for our new home. We love it! Our building thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=53911 Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 22Apr 29, 2012 7:10 pm Dream House 82 Our current house has a Surfmist roof and we've selected the same for our new home. We love it! Thanks for your comments all. Dreamhouse82 - what colour is that render? Having trouble choosing a brick If we go surfmist.... Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 23Apr 29, 2012 8:19 pm Hi Dave, the render is Colorbond Dune and the pillars are Colorbond Jasper. Our building thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=53911 Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 24Apr 29, 2012 8:40 pm Dream House 82 Hi Dave, the render is Colorbond Dune and the pillars are Colorbond Jasper. thanks. Nice house btw So, any anti-color bonders? Or anti surfmist people? I'm starting to think its a new trend (given the amount of support here, and the clear benefits), but given the amount of dark tiled roofs around my area, I don't know. I never was one for doing what everyone else did just because they all did, so I'm thinking surfmist is a winner. See how we go.... Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 25Apr 29, 2012 8:49 pm I'm not anti-surfmist by any means, but there are four houses in a row on a street in my estate with surfmist roofing and rollerdoors and I must say it's very glarey on a sunny day. It's certainly a popular choice in Perth, and with our climate I agree, just not a favourite in my eyes! I prefer medium to dark - ish shades personally! But to each their own of course Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 26Apr 29, 2012 8:50 pm yeah it seems to be very popular in perth. Here in sydney its like 1 in 100 or less. Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 27Apr 29, 2012 10:54 pm I wouldn't say I am anti-surfmist, but for where we live it would not fit in. We are in an established area. More so though, our Council would not permit it. We have Woodlands Grey and we were close to the border for what was allowed. The reason being its reflectivity. While good to reflect the sun, it can also cause glare (which is considered unsightly - sorry Dee - by some people, hence why it is banned in our Council area for streetscape reasons). We are on a slope and we can see the roofs of two houses below us and we are glad they are darker colours. But if you are not on a slope, in a newer area (you said Kellyville, right?), then with the right colour scheme a surfmist roof can look great! But personally, I prefer the darker, more recessive house tones (recent discussion about this on my thread!). Each to their own I reckon. SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 28Apr 30, 2012 7:32 am I totally understand about the glare factor T-which is why in dense built up areas it would not be a viable option-and I wouldn't have used it in such a situation. Out here with no elevated or two story houses it makes the most sense. Having said that, any colorbond has a higher heat reflective ability than normal tiles, so if I had to choose a dark roof I would choose colorbond over tiles. Deemaree Kyndylan Capers: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=46852 My blog: http://www.sufficientlysufficient.blogspot.com/ Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 29Apr 30, 2012 8:12 am I am another surfmist fan and have used it with Boral LaMesa bricks (see my thread if you want pictures). In my estate it also mentions that reflective roofs are not allowed. When I tried to clarify with the estate developers about what was classed as reflective (ie dark, medium, light etc on colorbond website) they came back and said that all colorbond colors were classed as non reflective and surfmist was allowed. I love my roof and I had to select bricks that would work well with surfmist. I am building in regional Victoria so I wanted to keep the color scheme that would not look too out of place for the area. I am also surrounded by dark roofs. House - Lockup completed 23rd December 2011 - Painters are in!!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37261&start=0&hilit=Blaxland Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 30Apr 30, 2012 12:17 pm Hi Guys, I love this discussion. I am building with EB and chose Colourbond roof having colour appointment on 14th. I would love to go for light colours due to energy efficiency but wife want to go for darker. Our bricks are PGH "Sorbetto" silver grey. Has anyone these bricks along with colour bond roof? Could anyone please suggest the colour scheme I would love to have light colour bond roof 1) Bricks - Sorbetto 2) Colourbind - ??? 3) Gutter - ?? 4) Facia - ?? 5) Downpipes - ?? 6) Garage Door - ??? I hope would get some good suggestions Regards, Farhan Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 31Apr 30, 2012 12:43 pm HI Guys take a look at this. I know most you consider lighter bricks with a surfmist roof. However you can still have a light roof with dark bricks. http://www.realestate.com.au/property-h ... -109898541 Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 32Apr 30, 2012 1:23 pm I think darker bricks look good - they contrast well, although they obviously don't have the same eco credentials but the darker bricks can be shaded by trees or other means whilst the roof can't. Here is another combination - if you zoom out from here, this estate has a number of houses with lighter coloured roofs: http://g.co/maps/wg28b Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 33May 01, 2012 10:00 am Hi All, The company i represent sells roof tiles in the surfmist colour and we have had clients who have experienced the same issue with not being able to use a light roof in particular estates. Generally this comes down to covenants which are designed to protect the character of an estate and the resale value of homes within it. In most cases its worth talking to the developer or your builder and defining what the reasons are for the restriction on colour and if there is a means of overcoming these as it can and has been done. Regarding light vs dark roofs and energy efficiency – remember this comes down to your climate zone. Based on research from University of Melbourne (Cool Roofs Research Paper), areas that require more heating than cooling such as Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide and even Perth surprisingly can be better off with a less reflective roof when trying to reduce overall energy consumption for heating and cooling in residential construction. Use of passive design principles makes a far greater difference. There is definitely a difference in light vs dark roofs reflectivity attributes however it is minimal when you use sarking, insulation and ventilation which most homes do these days. And when comparing tiles and metal in the same colours, tiles actually reflect more heat. We have some great research covering this which is due for release soon so I will post it here when available. In regards to the metal roofing outperforming roof tiles in thermal performance arguments on the forum...you will be surprised by the results! Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 34May 01, 2012 12:46 pm I'll stick with the evidence we have accumulated in our 4 builds-all in Victoria, all with passive design principles.. 1st with lighter roof tiles, next 2 with dark roof tiles and last with surfmist colorbond. All have had roof and wall insulation as well. Deemaree Kyndylan Capers: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=46852 My blog: http://www.sufficientlysufficient.blogspot.com/ Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 35May 01, 2012 1:59 pm Bristile Roofing - very informative, thank you. SunshineT's Build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34585 Designs start: 4/12/09 DA: 5/7/11 Demo: 22/12/11 Slab: 24/2/12 Keys: 31/8/12 Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 36May 01, 2012 2:03 pm BristileRoofing In regards to the metal roofing outperforming roof tiles in thermal performance arguments on the forum...you will be surprised by the results! I look forward to seeing these results.. Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 37May 02, 2012 3:27 pm I have a wild rice roof tile with 2 different bricks, mangrove (very dark) and mist (grey). I am so happy with my exterior colors!! I would not change a thing. Lighter tiles or colorbond look fantastic with charcoal/grey's from what i have seen. Re: Whats the problem with a light coloured roof - eg surfmi 40May 04, 2012 6:01 pm TORRENS Steel Hi, The reason you are getting so many different answers is because it makes no difference. When I did the GreenSmart course, this was confirmed: test show that it makes no difference. Also, Mythbusters showed the same with metal and even dark coloured cars. For some reason, people think difference coloured roofs attract heat (I guess our Yr 7 science teachers taught us that). With the amount of insulation that goes into the roof, it isnt going to make any difference either. Regards, Damien Torrens TORRENS Steel - Luxury Steel-Framed Homes http://www.torrenssteel.com.au Hi Damien, thats very interesting indeed! Do you have any links to these tests? I would love to read them for myself, and if only for posterity (as google reads this thread too!) I found one reference in the manual: "Use light coloured roofs and walls to reflect solar radiation." on page 6 of this: http://hia.com.au/upload/hia/documents/ ... 150710.pdf "Building the GreenSmart Way" So what did they say in the course about this? Very interested to hear. Thank you so much. We ended going with the terrain that’s part of our brick. 2 2545 Dover white or surfmist garage door. I am having trouble choosing a garage door. The outside of house will be tranquel retreat. I want it to all blend nicely however I… 0 6839 2 5862 |