Mar 05, 2008 10:51 am
Our builder appears to have missed quite a few expansion joints out of brickwork, as we are building on highly reactive soil we assumed that these joints would be pretty important...
From what we can tell they have missed 10 out of the 21 joints shown on our plans.... those figures are being kind - the majority of the other 11 joints coincide with full height windows/doors with infills above them.
Now, it looks like they have attempted to add one of these joints (bed 4) by sawing a cut through the bricks - is this acceptable?? We would of thought at the minimum they would need to pull the bricks down and re-do the work.
We're also pretty concerned about what looks like poor quality brick work around the sills and infills below windows and doors, gaps in mortar, bricks not sealed with mortar, etc.
We've added several pictures to our blog showing the missed joint locations, the saw cut and the brickwork....
Any opinions or advice appreciated...
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Mar 05, 2008 10:56 am
damo, i have to say i haven't seen that before???
If you're not happy with it, i'd elevate it beyond your CSR and meet your site supervisor and/ or the construction manager out on site to discuss it....Also see if you can chat to the person who conducted your inspection and get their opinion of the saw cuts....
Not nice....take it further!!!!
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Mar 05, 2008 11:54 am
Not sure about the sawing (I wouldn't be happy and I would assume it would affect the structural integrity of the wall), but I'm assuming the pics where you can see the middle holes in the bricks are on the bottom ledge of windows/doors? These should have been laid on their sides (face up) so that there would be maybe 1 hole each end of the sill that would need to be filled with mortar... doesn't take a genius - seriously, what is wrong with some of these tradies?!?
Second Time 'Round
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Mar 05, 2008 12:16 pm
Did Wayne have a look at this when he did your inspection? If not, could you get him back to specifically look at this part again? I know it costs, but it may be worth it, we found that they listened to us when we had a report saying it was defective!
Hope it all works out.
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Mar 05, 2008 12:28 pm
I'll try to get in touch with Wayne/BCA today and get his opinion on it..
You'd think so yeah., but the lack of common sense shown by some of the tradesmen so far has been astounding..
I should add that we are more than happy with the speed and progress being made, but some of the mistakes are really making us wonder about the quality of the finished product...
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Mar 08, 2008 6:12 pm
Damo, i spoke to our inspector Kevin from NHI, about your problem.
He mentioned a couple of things:
Firstly, he recommended that you get a piece of wire, like a coat hanger and poke it through the gap/cut that have been cut and see if the cut has gone all the way through the brickwork. He said it should.
Secondly, when they leave the space for the A/J normally , they use brick ties ( i think their called?) to hold/strengthen the bricks leading up to the A/J gap. If they have cut the bricks with an angle grinder or brick saw, then the bricks will not have adequate strength without the brick ties.
He said the ONLY way for them to rectify the problem is to cut out the 1 or 2 bricks on either side of where the A/J should be and re-mortar them in leaving the appropriate gap.
Anything else would not be up to scratch.
I hope that your inspector advises the same.
Make sure you stand your ground on this issue.
It is an important one!!!
Let us know how you go....
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Mar 14, 2008 5:28 pm
thanks for checking into that for us Phoenix, appreciate it.
the cut doesn't go the whole way through the bricks, nor is it straight. I've advised our csr that we won't be accepting cut bricks so we'll see what happens
in the mean time our list of issues keeps growing, and none of the existing issues have been addressed...
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Mar 25, 2008 9:47 pm
I met with our s/s last Tuesday and was assured all of our concerns would be addressed but as of this afternoon nothing has been done to rectify any of the problems...
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Mar 25, 2008 10:26 pm
We dont have any expansion joints in our house. I questioned the brickie on the missing expansion joints, but he said that since my slab is waffle pod, the crack will be minimum, as the slab will move intandem when the earth/soil move.
I have look at several houses in my areas, they, except one, also do not have the expansion joints.
Is the waffle pod = less crack is a correct statement?
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Mar 26, 2008 10:31 am
oznow, it's my understanding that the expansion joints are not only for foundation movement but also for expansion in the bricks over time due to moisture absorption and other movement such as thermal expansion of the brickwork relative to the rest of the house structure.
every house in our estate appears to have expansion joints every couple of meters, and the majority of houses are on waffle pod slabs (as is our house), so i'm not sure if what you have been told is correct.
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Mar 26, 2008 11:42 am
I just talked to my builder, and he reconfirmed what i had heard (previously from the Brickie). The needs of expansion joint depends on several factors slab system, size of the house, etc. Usually the certifier will mention it too.
Even some of the display houses do not have the expansion joint.
Have to check on the building code of australia on this.
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Mar 26, 2008 11:58 am
damo, check the building specs you were given by your builder.
I am quoting from ours (Next Generation Contract Specification Edn 2 for use will buildings constructed after 1st of June 2004 wind classification N1, N2 and N3, 4 and 5 star thermal performance rating) which states:
13.5 VERTICAL ARTICULATION JOINTS
a). Vertical articulation joints will be provided in all masonary walls as specified on the approved Building Permit drawings, except they may be omitted on walls built where the site soil classification is A or S.
b). Articulation joints will have a minimum width of 10mm, except where articulation joints are adjacent to a door or window frame where:
i. A vertical 5mm minimum gap will be left each side of the frame (between the frame and the masonry) to allow for movement.
ii. The gap will be sealed on the home (Class 1 building) as follows:
A. Door frame - a timber or metal wind mould or coloured mastic sealant or equivalent.
B. Window frame - a flexible bulb seal
c). Extendable masonry anchors will be built in at every fourth course of single skin masonry walls (other than masonry veneer).
d). All articulation joints in single skin masonry will be sealed with a coloured mastic sealant (or equivalent) on any exposed internal face and external face.
You might have different specs up in Qld damo, but check yours anyway???
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Mar 26, 2008 10:56 pm
to be fair our s/s has agreed there are some issues and that they will be recitified, I'm sure the delay is just due to rescheduling of the various trades to come out and fix the problems.
on a positive note, our kitchen, bath, ensuite and laundry cabinets were installed today
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