Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jan 09, 2012 5:16 pm We are building in an estate in south west sydney, ad the suburb has knocked our plans back. Apparently because our block is facing a main road, we are not allowed to have a balcony. We designed this facade as we dont really like anything around and are now disheartened and stumped. If we knew this wasnt allowed we wouldnt have bought our block. Any ideas on how to get around this? They say its due to noise, and cant have an opening door or window, but need fixed windows? Our front door is there though? any replies would be greatly appreciated Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 2Jan 09, 2012 7:25 pm Hi scott don't get stressed just yet. Talk with your builder and see what small changes you can make and resubmit your plans. Developers and councils are a pain in the a$$ to deal with but you can get around it if you play it smart. Good luck A bank is a place that will lend you money only if you can prove that you don't need it... Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 3Jan 09, 2012 7:27 pm You can have a front door, just not one of those ones that open and close All jokes aside, I really feel for you. Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 4Jan 09, 2012 8:21 pm Speak to someone in a high place and tell them you want your money back!!! You just never know. And i am being serious!!! Its a long shot but tell them that's the only home you want to build and you are not prepared to build anything else. But, first i would check that their building guidelines don't tell you this already. If its in the building guidelines i don't know that you would have much of a chance of it happening. Can we ask where you have bought? Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 5Jan 09, 2012 8:28 pm Can you change the design to not include a balcony? I'm very confused that the council don't want any opening and closing windows on a main road....are they worried that you'll contribute to the noise or that the noise of the road will bother you? You could take them to the building tribunal in your state (here in Vic the equivalent is VCAT) who will often over ride Council's decision if it's a fair and reasonable request - sometimes even if it's not. Trouble with this plan is it can stall your build by a long time. Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 6Jan 09, 2012 8:33 pm JLD - It could be the developer of the area that has knocked it back, some developments need the approval via them before you can submit it to council to make sure you meet their design standards. I think it is a bit of a pain that they can dictate how your house can look.... As above mate check the contracts if there is nothing about it I'd go in there and blow them up and get your cash back or demand a better block in a part of the estate that you can build it on Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 7Jan 09, 2012 8:52 pm Oh ok with you now.....still can't work out why they have noise issue with a main road! Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 8Jan 09, 2012 9:36 pm Me either if the owner wants to have a balcony and listen to the cars drive by then really that is their call not the developer Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 9Jan 09, 2012 10:14 pm Thanks guys, I will need to get solicitor onto the building contract! We dont understand, we feel the same way. If we dont mind why should they? We're building in harrington grove in nsw, we know some rules are a bit of a stretch but come on! We rang our builder and left a message, they've been great, so hopefully will hear back tomorrow and they may have some suggestions? We have a blog that we started a few weeks ago if you want to check out our plans, as for other facades, we arent fans of render and that seems to be the only option to add to it. http://scottchandreamhome.blogspot.com/ Back to driving around and stalking facades maybe? fingers crossed we can work something out! Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 10Jan 09, 2012 10:42 pm Like the others said, review the contract and see what it specifies. You might get around it be adding another feature or colour. Our estate required at least 2 colours and a feature such as gables etc. Or if it is because of the balcony can you put that at the side or back instead?' Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 11Jan 09, 2012 11:16 pm ok so we have read our little booklet of building guidelines : Habitable rooms facing Oran Park Drive are exposed to road traffic noise and should be provided with fixed windows and mechanical ventilation to achieve compliance with AS/NS 2107-2000 Accoustics recommended design sound levels and reverberations. The criteria cannot be achieved where opening windows will cause noise intrusion. SO we cant open bedrooms to air? And as it means no sliding doors, we are wondering if we can have a solid timber door? Will need to check it out, just when you think everything is ready to go.... thanks all for your feedback! Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 12Jan 09, 2012 11:46 pm Wow, I'm glad I didn't buy one down near Oran Park Drive..... What land release are you in? I'm in 3B a few months away from owning my land yet So did you get knocked back by Council or the estate? Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 13Jan 10, 2012 9:13 am Hey dvestate we are in dianella precint of harrington grove, its the new precinct that hasnt been registered yet. Plans have been knocked back by harrington grove itself..... pains in the bum. Cant wait to talk to builder today! Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 14Jan 10, 2012 1:42 pm That's why I hadn't seen that in any of the Oran Park paperwork that I had been reading Hope they get it sorted and you can just do what you want Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 15Jan 10, 2012 1:50 pm Scottchan ok so we have read our little booklet of building guidelines : Habitable rooms facing Oran Park Drive are exposed to road traffic noise and should be provided with fixed windows and mechanical ventilation to achieve compliance with AS/NS 2107-2000 Accoustics recommended design sound levels and reverberations. The criteria cannot be achieved where opening windows will cause noise intrusion. SO we cant open bedrooms to air? And as it means no sliding doors, we are wondering if we can have a solid timber door? Will need to check it out, just when you think everything is ready to go.... thanks all for your feedback! Sounds like it to comply with building compliance regulations so it may not be flexible. You coupld still have a fixed window with a balcony (that you just can't use) if it's only the look you are after. As for fresh air etc, you may have to rely on windows on other walls and hence facing other direction Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 16Jan 10, 2012 2:09 pm kdgirl Scottchan ok so we have read our little booklet of building guidelines : Habitable rooms facing Oran Park Drive are exposed to road traffic noise and should be provided with fixed windows and mechanical ventilation to achieve compliance with AS/NS 2107-2000 Accoustics recommended design sound levels and reverberations. The criteria cannot be achieved where opening windows will cause noise intrusion. SO we cant open bedrooms to air? And as it means no sliding doors, we are wondering if we can have a solid timber door? Will need to check it out, just when you think everything is ready to go.... thanks all for your feedback! Sounds like it to comply with building compliance regulations so it may not be flexible. You coupld still have a fixed window with a balcony (that you just can't use) if it's only the look you are after. As for fresh air etc, you may have to rely on windows on other walls and hence facing other direction Why couldn't you have the balcony go around the side as well and have a door open from there. A bank is a place that will lend you money only if you can prove that you don't need it... Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 17Jan 10, 2012 2:53 pm Buttercup Why couldn't you have the balcony go around the side as well and have a door open from there. Hi, I agree with Buttercup, wrap the balcony around the Garage side and have the sliding door there. This will fix your issue. Still a Pain though - Im surprised the builder did not know this (or should I say do their homework).... Cheers, Alpal Building PD Heathmont 40 BLOG: http://alpal-pd-heathmont40.blogspot.com/ Deposit paid 19/08/2011 Contract signing 3/10/2011 Site Start 10/11/2011 Slab 23/11/2011 Re: FACADE knocked back.. no idea what to do :/ 19Jan 10, 2012 5:15 pm lol phippsy! My hubby said the same thing! I like the sound of the wrap around balcony, that will then sit on top of the second garage.... will need to sit and chat to builder. As for airing rooms,we had a look around oran park today and are thinking of putting windows on the sides so that we could open them Thank you all so much, last night I was in such a panic, I took my migraine to bed. 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