Ceiling Height & Roof pitch, are we being ripped off?

blessedpeople · Feb 11, 2008 7:33 pm

Hi everyone,

How much does it cost to get ceiling height of 2550 in lieu of 2400 mm for a 38 sq home? A rough estimate would be great as i think our builder may be taking us for a ride.

The bonus for Jan was 2550mm ceilings...however, stockland requires us to have a 25 degree pitch roof. Instead of paying an additional $2,028 for a 25 degree in lieu of 22.5 degree pitch, the builder offered to do the 25 pitch roof for free if we waive the 2550 mm ceiling and take the standard of 2400mm.

Are we getting a good deal ? or are we being ripped off?

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

PhoenixStar · Feb 11, 2008 7:38 pm

blessedpeople

Hi everyone,

How much does it cost to get ceiling height of 2550 in lieu of 2400 mm for a 38 sq home? A rough estimate would be great as i think our builder may be taking us for a ride.

The bonus for Jan was 2550mm ceilings...however, stockland requires us to have a 25 degree pitch roof. Instead of paying an additional $2,028 for a 25 degree in lieu of 22.5 degree pitch, the builder offered to do the 25 pitch roof for free if we waive the 2550 mm ceiling and take the standard of 2400mm.

Are we getting a good deal ? or are we being ripped off?

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

B/P, we paid approx $680 for 25 deg roof pitch and approx $2400 for 2590 ceilings in a 36.6 sq home single storey...
Hope that helps... Who are you building with and is it a single or double storey home????

blessedpeople · Feb 11, 2008 7:42 pm

thanks poenix,

its a double story home..and we're going with nbg.
I too thought that the ceiling height would cost more than the roof pitch, he gave it to us too easily...if anything he should throw in for us the letter box etc at no extra cost (he was charging us $1095 for the letterbox...after some haggling, came down to $510...still seems pretty high...it is a bagged finish like our house)

fojean · Feb 11, 2008 7:47 pm

We are paying $491 for 25 degree roof pitch....2 storey with Henley at a Stockland estate...

We are increasing the ground floor ceiling to 2700mm for $2629 and at contract signing we were informed that we had to raise the 2430mm first floor ceiling to 2590mm so that the balcony doors can fit (due to 25 degree roof pitch)...this at a cost of $1592...

PhoenixStar · Feb 11, 2008 7:48 pm

Personally i'd keep the 2550 ceilings and pay for the roof pitch, but it's your house...what is the ceiling height in the display home???

The roof pitch should be between $300-$500 i would say for a double storey... but hey it can't hurt to ask???

blessedpeople · Feb 11, 2008 7:54 pm

thanks you Phoenix & Fojean,

NBG quoted $2,344 and after bargaining, he brought it down to $2,088. THat's very high considering what your builders charged you & what dennis family homes quoted i.e. $786 for 25 degree roof pitch in lieu of 22.5.

The display home was 2550 lower floor and 2400 forst first floor. The standard for ours is 2550 for the lower floor and a bonus of 2550 for the first floor (Jan bonus)...unless we choose to accept the NBG's (crazy) advise of switching from 2550 ceilings for a 25 degree roof pitch. His quote for the 25 degree roof pitch is too high to begin with...so i think i'm going to have to give him a call tomorrow...

PhoenixStar · Feb 11, 2008 7:59 pm

Let us know how it goes.... i know that M3tricon charge about $300-$400 for the roof pitch change on a single storey so a double should be a bit cheaper.... just more ammo for your conversation tomorrow.

Good Luck, let us know what eventuates????

blessedpeople · Feb 11, 2008 8:02 pm

Thank you Phoenix...what are the mechanics for the roof pitch costing more for a single than a double story.

Is it like site cost being more expensive for a single because of the footprint?

PhoenixStar · Feb 11, 2008 8:09 pm

I don't actually think that it actually makes much difference in regards to the builders "actual" costs of the materials/labour (it's only a few degree's for petes sake).... maybe just that it's not standard to their plan perhaps...and they all feel they can get away with it???

Stand your ground, that price is ridiculous!!! negotiate them down to something more reasonable.... OR alternatively call another display centre and ask them how much it would cost (if say you were looking to build that particular house....maybe) and then call your sales person and negotiate with all the information in your hand.

Good Luck... :wink:

VJ · Feb 11, 2008 8:21 pm

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OR alternatively call another display centre and ask them how much it would cost (if say you were looking to build that particular house....maybe) and then call your sales person and negotiate with all the information in your hand

spot on, Phoenix.
that was exactly what I woud suggest too.
that was what we did... and it worked!
only difference was that, we refused to deal with our original SC as she gave us higher quote for some major items.
it would create some issues though within the sales people.
we personally rquested the SM to change our SC to the new one.

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I don't actually think that it actually makes much difference in regards to the builders "actual" costs of the materials/labour (it's only a few degree's for petes sake)....

I agree with you... it would increase the size of the trusses, etc.. but it would be minimal. So cost wouldn't be that much! One builder that we dealt with initially even promised to give that to us for free!

blessedpeople · Feb 11, 2008 8:29 pm

...*humming* ~God only knows what I'd do without you~

You guys are unbelievabley helpful..will keep you updated

damo · Feb 11, 2008 8:30 pm

**Phoenix**

approx $2400 for 2590 ceilings in a 36.6 sq home single storey...

if thats what you paid then we got royally screwed on our ceilings... (just over double that) :shock:

VJ · Feb 11, 2008 8:34 pm

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if thats what you paid then we got royally screwed on our ceilings... (just over double that)

what??? double????
gosh, do your ceilings have 14k gold trimmings around it :roll:

PhoenixStar · Feb 11, 2008 8:41 pm

damo

**Phoenix**

approx $2400 for 2590 ceilings in a 36.6 sq home single storey...

if thats what you paid then we got royally screwed on our ceilings... (just over double that) :shock:

Oooops, and i'm not "allowed" to talk prices... ssshhhh don't tell them that i said that!!!!

blessedpeople

...*humming* ~God only knows what I'd do without you~

You guys are unbelievabley helpful..will keep you updated

LOL, the power of this forum is indeed great!!! :lol:

VJ · Feb 11, 2008 8:43 pm

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blessedpeople wrote:
...*humming* ~God only knows what I'd do without you~

You guys are unbelievabley helpful..will keep you updated

LOL, the power of this forum is indeed great!!!

Let's drink to that!
Ooopppsss... I don't drink! :lol:

damo · Feb 11, 2008 8:50 pm

VJ

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if thats what you paid then we got royally screwed on our ceilings... (just over double that)

what??? double????
gosh, do your ceilings have 14k gold trimmings around it :roll:

yep... $5710 for 2590mm ceilings incl allowance for render etc, just checked our contract...

I'll be following this up tomorrow, thanks for the information....

VJ · Feb 11, 2008 8:54 pm

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yep... $5710 for 2590mm ceilings incl allowance for render etc, just checked our contract...

I'll be following this up tomorrow, thanks for the information....

was it too expensive because your house will be all rendered?

damo · Feb 11, 2008 9:13 pm

nah I don't think thats it, the price before render/b&p was $5100. I think we just got gouged, it'll be interesting to see how they justify an extra 100% over what they appear to charge in vic...

ahuang · Feb 11, 2008 11:18 pm

Don't know much about the roof pitch...

We paid $5950 to raise ground floor from 2400 to 2700, and $4950 to raise 1st floor from 2400 to 2700.

Hope this helps!

Jet79 · Feb 12, 2008 8:03 am

VJ

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yep... $5710 for 2590mm ceilings incl allowance for render etc, just checked our contract...

Wow that is huge. Two builders I spoke to about raising the roof was about the $2500 mark and that was for a 330m2 single story.

I'll have to find my contract to let you know how much it was to raise the pitch to 25 deg. From memory it was only a couple of hundred dollars, not much in the scale of things.