Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Aug 25, 2011 12:52 pm Hi, I've been trying to find out info on the rescode (http://planningschemes.dpcd.vic.gov.au/index.html) as I've just received plans for a new double storey house on the block next to ours. Our house is a single storey brick house, and they are planning to put a double storey next door. The concern I have is about shadows etc, and the lack of light we will get into bedrooms. I've attached the plan and drawn on the room behind each window. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Also, the distance between the fence and their wall is 1720mm. Any suggestions or comments? Thanks, MJ Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 2Aug 25, 2011 1:26 pm Are you both on even ground, or one on upper ground the other on lower? Living in Sydney - Building in Melbourne My Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=50518 Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 4Aug 25, 2011 1:45 pm Hi, Do/Did you have certificate of occupacy when their plans were approved? If you didn't, I think it pretty much means they treat your land as vacant as far as all the overshadowing/overlooking etc. is concerned. I don't know all the regulations but I think your local council would be able to help out. Someone on this forum will know. Sorry I can't be more help. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 5Aug 25, 2011 1:48 pm I've just received a copy of the plans and I do not believe they are approved yet. It mentions "we write to you as part of the building permit process". So I believe they are the final/certified copy but not yet approved. MJ Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 6Aug 25, 2011 1:57 pm Sorry I mean, do you have your certificate of occupancy? Is your house finished and you're living in it? I believe that neighbours are only contacted (written to) when it is part of a planning permit, e.g. it is too high or outside of area covernants. If it is just a building permit then I didn't think they had to contact neighbours. If they are contacting you then you most likely have the right to object to the building but if you are the only neighbour to object it might not make any difference. The letter that you got must have contact details of someone. Call them and ask what your options are. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 7Aug 25, 2011 2:01 pm I am building a 2 storey house at the moment. we have a single level home next door and a vaccant block on other side. Will ask them if they had a chance to input before approval of plans. We are lucky though as there are at least 12 mtrs between our houses. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 8Aug 25, 2011 2:23 pm Ah yes, we have been in the house for a bit over 2 years and have a certificate of occupancy. With your prompt (thanks Rocketship) they are asking if we "agree to the proposed protection work" or "disagree" or "require more info". So with regards to the plans, then I assume the council has given the go ahead. They also have a start date. So, then I assume they have meet everything then in the rescode and the council has done right by me? (or is that a silly thing to consider?) MJ Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 9Aug 25, 2011 3:07 pm MJ Hi, I've been trying to find out info on the rescode (http://planningschemes.dpcd.vic.gov.au/index.html) as I've just received plans for a new double storey house on the block next to ours. Our house is a single storey brick house, and they are planning to put a double storey next door. The concern I have is about shadows etc, and the lack of light we will get into bedrooms. I've attached the plan and drawn on the room behind each window. http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/martjust/NextDoorPlan-1.jpg Also, the distance between the fence and their wall is 1720mm. Any suggestions or comments? Thanks, MJ We have a two storey house on the north side of us - I think we were told that as long as they do not put more than 25% of your land in shade at noon on 21st June (or whenever the shortest day is), they can build. Lucky our block is 22 m wide and we have built a skinny house. I wonder if bedrooms would be a concern anyway - living rooms more likely. They built first, so we weren't asked or shown their plan officially. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 10Aug 19, 2013 3:52 pm @MJ Just checking to see how you went this. We are also in a similar situation and have just received plans from our neighbour who intends to build a double storey house. I am trying to figure out what options we have. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 12Aug 19, 2013 6:49 pm Ca6leguy Love the way NSW does it with CDC. Neighbours et the notification only 2 days before constuction start without any knowledge of a development being planned. Yep; we got to tell our neighbours we were building instead of begging them to let us. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 13Aug 19, 2013 11:45 pm I think as long as the building is within the envelope on the ground floor and the set backs are correct on the second floor then the shadowing should not be a major issue. Also if the codes are like wa then upstairs windows will have to be obscured below 1.5 meters to provide privacy. New houses are good for the street I think. In any event I hope it all goes well. Cheers Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 14Aug 20, 2013 10:39 am I dont you will have any shadowing issues. According to the plans the house runs North South and you will still have plenty of light. The only area to receive less sunlight may be the kids play area. However this will only be a few hours less in the morning. The bedroom in the front of the house will also have windows facing the road, even if it is obstructed. Chances are either way it is a high window on the side of the house. The only issue you may have is over looking into the kids play area. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 15Aug 20, 2013 10:48 am AussieMark I think as long as the building is within the envelope on the ground floor and the set backs are correct on the second floor then the shadowing should not be a major issue. Also if the codes are like wa then upstairs windows will have to be obscured below 1.5 meters to provide privacy. New houses are good for the street I think. In any event I hope it all goes well. Cheers This. We're half way through our double story build and there's a single story to our left. Because our build conformed to all council regs, our neighbours were not consulted about the build or even given plans. That's only if you are going to do something outside the code and then you must go through town planning which then gives the neighbours a chance to object. We heard via our builder that the neighbour asked him for a copy of the plans as he was concerned we may over shadow his solar panels At the end of the day, there is no law against that. As long as it's approved by council then the build goes ahead. This is the risk you take I suppose when you are building and you know someone may build next door someday. My Hamptons build (completed): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63370 Moved in Wednesday 11th Dec 2013 Front landscaping completed June 2016 Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 16Aug 22, 2013 2:09 am Yep, its different in WA. In the council I am in you need planning approval and neighbours are consulted. Then you need building approval. Luckily for me my plans were approved and I had quite a few variations. I guess the fun will start for me when the build starts. While I appreciate the concerns raised on overshadowing and solar access I think that it is also not right to hold someone to ransom over it either. Systematically every house in my street is being demolished as double storey houses are being put up. Some people cannot afford the rebuild cost but that does not mean they should make it difficult for others. I guess it is different for new estates but my street is a very old street so many new houses lifts the value right along the street. I agree with your point that as long as council agrees then it should be fine. To be honest I did make sure that there is limited windows on the sides so that privacy issues are minimised. rant over..... Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 17Sep 08, 2013 10:11 pm I think that double storey houses should not be allowed to cast any shadow at any time of the year on their neighbours solar panels. It is completely unfair to the neighbour who already lives in their house and has spent thousands on going green and trying to save themselves money in the long run by not having to pay electricity bills. Why should someone who comes along second be allowed to take that away? It is selfish and unfair. Sure, build your doubles but build them so that they don't affect your neighbours negatively who are already living there. Why should you come along and affect someone else's living? And yes, this is happening to me and i'm furious that there is nothing in place to protect us. Re: New Double Storey house next door, rescode help! 18Sep 09, 2013 9:19 am I'm a fan of NSW's CDC system. If the build meets strict standards and guidelines - they don't need to consult any neighbors. If they want to 'push the boundaries' (lol) of those standards, then they have to apply through DA, which will see all neighbors notified for comment. You can still request through council for a copy of anyones plans, even if CDC, due to freedom of information act. I did this recently to discover my neighbor building 2 storey, but after looking at their plans, the impact on me will be extremely negligible, in fact, I'm looking forward to their home shading my bedrooms in the summer time Hi Kristy Around $1.7-1.8m or around $4,600/sqm. if you PM me your email I will send you a break up in a spreadsheet so you can get an understanding of the costs for… 1 9956 i imagine you also have another contract with an architect? and yeah, whatever other's said about special conditions and appendices 16 16007 1 4581 |