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Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Porter Davis homes 1361Mar 11, 2011 5:01 pm karmaz Settled today - phew!! Business Manager and SS finally helped to get it all over the line, the Bank Manager too..... sweet relief!! Congrats __________________________________________ Built Camberwell 29 with PD - Hand Over was on 22/12/10 http://ssazcamberwell29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1362Mar 11, 2011 7:48 pm SSAZ karmaz Settled today - phew!! Business Manager and SS finally helped to get it all over the line, the Bank Manager too..... sweet relief!! Congrats Congrats!!! Site cut: 2 June 2010 Slab Poured: 2 Oct 2010 Frame Stage: 12 Oct 2010 Lock up: Dec 2010 Fixing Stage: March 2011 http://karasdreamhome.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1363Mar 11, 2011 8:31 pm What a day!
As some might remember we to have our handover on Tuesday and had a few issues that were being rectified and my SS assured us he was all over it and suggested that we would hand over on Friday (today) Feeling all loved and reassured (do you see the warning signs – we didn’t) we went into Fennel street to settle and pay the final amount. We fully drew our loan but still had an amount outstanding to pay for some variations. We were told a couple of weeks ago that we could make this payment via EFT. No problems we thought, we had the savings and just a matter of sending it across. Turns out that PD believes that EFT is actually EFTPOS and didn’t want to accept an internet banking transfer. So a quick trip to the bank to withdraw several thousand in cash and then return to Fennel St. We returned handed over the cash and then were presented with a nice gift, thanked for our custom and walked to the door. When we got to the house we were initially very excited, pleased and felt that we had finished on a high. However that feeling soon went as we noticed all the items that we were promised were being taken care off had not been attended too. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Im not sure if its clear from the photo, but all our sliding door handles (plural) are covered in paint reside. Its like white dusty powder all over them and we were told that the house was having an extra clean. Maybe the clean did take place and the handles have been stained. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Paint stain on carpet, I think this one is new since we visited on Tuesday as we didn’t notice it then. There are a couple of other spots of paint on the carpet in other areas. This is just one example of what you can expect when a PD tradie gets within 50m of a paint brush. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Paint stains on bricks from bifold doors. This has been addressed many times. On Tuesday our SS said that he bought some graffiti remover and it would be taken care off. Maybe he did try, but clearly the stains are still there. This was noted in PCI and Tuesday’s inspection and still not done Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Our SS marked this spot to make sure the paint was going to be touched up. The mark has not been removed so it can only mean that it wasn’t done. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Paint stains in the bottom of a draw. Again this was a PCI issue that wasn’t noted at PCI as supposedly paint defects are not written down but marked with a sticker. Again we were reassured it would be done which it hasn’t. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ All over our door handles (notice the plural) there is paint. We were told that it would be cleaned up and it hasn’t. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ This photo was taken on Saturday the 29th Jan 2011 (this photo has already been sent to PD) We went for a drive past the house to have Mr Painter turn up with Grandma Painter, Mrs Painter and Mrs Painters friend and two Junior Painters along with their bicycles and prams having a picnic lunch and running through out the house and garage. The excuse from the painter is that they were not his friends or relatives but nosy neighbours. I guess its just a coincidence then that they all spoke the same language and our neighbours were being overly friendly by providing lunch for the men. I guess with this level of professionalism its no wonder we are having these issues. I’m really ** off to say the least that after all the promises and reassurances given that this issues were not taken care off. I am kicking myself for trusting their promises and really feel deceived that we believed that everything was going to be taken care off. I am kicking myself that we should have taken the extra time to drive to the house and check everything for ourselves. We were tricked, we even left the SS a bottle of something as gift for his work. We were stitched up nicely. I guess I will find out about PD’s after sales service next week and see if these things are finally going to be done or if they are going to *** us around now that they got our money. Re: Porter Davis homes 1364Mar 11, 2011 8:38 pm Sorry to hear your problems, Lunchtime. I learnt long ago not to trust what the SS told me, that's why I always arranged to meet him onsite before I paid any progress payment or final payment & sometimes I even met him onsite just to go through things & made sure he knew what's going on. __________________________________________ Built Camberwell 29 with PD - Hand Over was on 22/12/10 http://ssazcamberwell29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1365Mar 11, 2011 8:40 pm Lunchtime What a day! As some might remember we to have our handover on Tuesday and had a few issues that were being rectified and my SS assured us he was all over it and suggested that we would hand over on Friday (today) Hey Lunchtime, I thought there was meant to be an inspection on handover day, then you go to PD offices and get keys when you are happy with the finished house? Was this not offered or was it discouraged? Re: Porter Davis homes 1366Mar 11, 2011 9:01 pm Yeh, we should have. Our handover date was tuesday but we still had these issues. Our SS gave us every reassurance that these few issues would be taken care of with a clean and that everything being done. We live on the other side of town to our build and made the mistake of trusting all the promises and got lazy. We felt confident and were tricked - its our stupid fault for having trust in them and wanting to believe that we were finally getting everything rectified We will be addressing our concerns on tuesday, I have sent a link to this thread to our CSA rep and we will be taking it to the BACV if the issues are not delt with immediately. Re: Porter Davis homes 1367Mar 13, 2011 11:09 am Lunchtime Yeh, we should have. Our handover date was tuesday but we still had these issues. Our SS gave us every reassurance that these few issues would be taken care of with a clean and that everything being done. We live on the other side of town to our build and made the mistake of trusting all the promises and got lazy. We felt confident and were tricked - its our stupid fault for having trust in them and wanting to believe that we were finally getting everything rectified We will be addressing our concerns on tuesday, I have sent a link to this thread to our CSA rep and we will be taking it to the BACV if the issues are not delt with immediately. Hi Lunchtime So sorry to hear that all the excitement has been tarnished by the lack of follow up which has happened, really surprised that there wasnt someone there earlier for you!! Good Luck on Tuesday Just starting our blog.. will have it up to date soon Site cut: 2 June 2010 Slab Poured: 2 Oct 2010 Frame Stage: 12 Oct 2010 Lock up: Dec 2010 Fixing Stage: March 2011 http://karasdreamhome.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1368Mar 13, 2011 3:10 pm thanks for the kind wishes, I am kicking myself for trusting my SS. Just after all the problems that we had I finally saw things being done and was reassured that everything else was being taken care off. The number of issues has decreased, there was only a few to go. It seemed like everything else was organised and was just being completed. Seems that after I left that everything else that he said he would do went out the window. I really feel like we have been * too.
Im sure we will get something organised, I am not ******* around with them anymore. I have just written to the ACCC with regard to some of their advertising that I believe was misleading. And should we not get satisfactory answers on the other items I will be running to the BACV. I intend to show them what a nightmare client is all about Re: Porter Davis homes 1369Mar 13, 2011 4:09 pm Lunchtime Given that all builders must offer a 7 year structural warrantee then there is no point of difference and they are in fact only offering the minimum standard where they are making the representation that they are offering something superior to the standard. Not once was it clarified that the 12 months extended maintenance only included structural issues. Hi Lunchtime, We have been told that the extended 12 month warranty is for structural issues, but that it's in addition to the standard 7 years, meaning that you actually get 8 years in total. Re: Porter Davis homes 1370Mar 13, 2011 4:55 pm Hi Lunchtime, I am so happy to hear that you are taking further action, it seems that PD have a practice of leaving information out I would be more than happy to send the same letter to ACCC to help boost the need for them to investigate the "trickiness" of their company....such as to be told that there are independant inspections completed at each stage - what they dont tell you is you dont get a copy of it! My question is who ensures that the defects are fixed?? Power to you Lunchtime Site cut: 2 June 2010 Slab Poured: 2 Oct 2010 Frame Stage: 12 Oct 2010 Lock up: Dec 2010 Fixing Stage: March 2011 http://karasdreamhome.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1371Mar 13, 2011 6:29 pm Hello, New to this and the building scene. Some intereting comment made about the building process through PD. We are looking to build PD's Davenport 29 and as i'm new to the building scene does anyone have any useful tips? things to consider/look out for? What to do and not to do? We're also looking into 'Ducted Air Con'. Does anyone have any suggestions for suppliers etc...?? Re: Porter Davis homes 1372Mar 13, 2011 6:31 pm fingers crossed Hi Lunchtime, I am so happy to hear that you are taking further action, it seems that PD have a practice of leaving information out I would be more than happy to send the same letter to ACCC to help boost the need for them to investigate the "trickiness" of their company....such as to be told that there are independent inspections completed at each stage - what they dont tell you is you dont get a copy of it! My question is who ensures that the defects are fixed?? Power to you Lunchtime Yes, I asked for a copy of their inspections but was told I couldn't have it because I wouldn't understand it. When I met my SS he pointed out drawings on the wall indicating things that needed to be fixed, I did notice they were fixed but how many things are left due to discretion? They all have targets to meet and somethings are going to get left .. I will be getting a final inspection done just for my piece of mind, I really don't like the way my bricks are looking, and my SS said the brickie was "the best". I'm not so sure. Re: Porter Davis homes 1373Mar 13, 2011 6:37 pm jezz.wong Hello, New to this and the building scene. Some intereting comment made about the building process through PD. We are looking to build PD's Davenport 29 and as i'm new to the building scene does anyone have any useful tips? things to consider/look out for? What to do and not to do? We're also looking into 'Ducted Air Con'. Does anyone have any suggestions for suppliers etc...?? I have sent you a pm Site cut: 2 June 2010 Slab Poured: 2 Oct 2010 Frame Stage: 12 Oct 2010 Lock up: Dec 2010 Fixing Stage: March 2011 http://karasdreamhome.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1374Mar 13, 2011 6:39 pm Victoria_g06 fingers crossed Hi Lunchtime, I am so happy to hear that you are taking further action, it seems that PD have a practice of leaving information out I would be more than happy to send the same letter to ACCC to help boost the need for them to investigate the "trickiness" of their company....such as to be told that there are independent inspections completed at each stage - what they dont tell you is you dont get a copy of it! My question is who ensures that the defects are fixed?? Power to you Lunchtime Yes, I asked for a copy of their inspections but was told I couldn't have it because I wouldn't understand it. When I met my SS he pointed out drawings on the wall indicating things that needed to be fixed, I did notice they were fixed but how many things are left due to discretion? They all have targets to meet and somethings are going to get left .. I will be getting a final inspection done just for my piece of mind, I really don't like the way my bricks are looking, and my SS said the brickie was "the best". I'm not so sure. well we were simply turned down I had even called BSS to see if we could have a copy from them and they said that their contract was b/w PD and them and not me.... I would really like to get a copy - Site cut: 2 June 2010 Slab Poured: 2 Oct 2010 Frame Stage: 12 Oct 2010 Lock up: Dec 2010 Fixing Stage: March 2011 http://karasdreamhome.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1375Mar 13, 2011 7:46 pm Lunchtime Im sure we will get something organised, I am not ******* around with them anymore. I have just written to the ACCC with regard to some of their advertising that I believe was misleading. And should we not get satisfactory answers on the other items I will be running to the BACV. I intend to show them what a nightmare client is all about Oh my, haven’t you been sucked in. And to think you even bought your SS a bottle of wine- that is just too much! Weren’t you the one who was pontificating to me that my attitude was "not right" on the following thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=44716? Now look at you threatening to be a nightmare client and using censored language! You should take a chill pill and relax before you make an even bigger fool of yourself writing letters and what not. I’m sure there is a reasonable explanation why the outstanding items were not rectified and you owe PD a right of response before you throw a tanty. Your poor SS most likely arranged for the defects to be rectified and was let down by his trades- we all know how unreliable they can be. And given the SS has a zillion homes to manage it is perfectly reasonable that he may not have had time to personally inspect the rectification works before handover. In any case, your rectification concerns are so minor compared to some of the horror stories on this forum that I am surprised you would even waste your time typing them up when you could have addressed half of them yourself in the same time. Re: Porter Davis homes 1376Mar 13, 2011 7:50 pm Victoria_g06 Yes, I asked for a copy of their inspections but was told I couldn't have it because I wouldn't understand it. When I met my SS he pointed out drawings on the wall indicating things that needed to be fixed, I did notice they were fixed but how many things are left due to discretion? They all have targets to meet and somethings are going to get left .. I will be getting a final inspection done just for my piece of mind, I really don't like the way my bricks are looking, and my SS said the brickie was "the best". I'm not so sure. Clients are entitled to all material documents relating to their build, including independent surveyor’s reports. It is amazing how quickly my builder furnished me with all manner of requested documents when I refused to make a progress payment. Re: Porter Davis homes 1377Mar 13, 2011 8:34 pm independent surveyor’s reports are one thing but independant inspectors reports are another - isnt that right? Site cut: 2 June 2010 Slab Poured: 2 Oct 2010 Frame Stage: 12 Oct 2010 Lock up: Dec 2010 Fixing Stage: March 2011 http://karasdreamhome.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1378Mar 13, 2011 10:07 pm Now look at you threatening to be a nightmare client and using censored language! You should take a chill pill and relax before you make an even bigger fool of yourself writing letters and what not. I’m sure there is a reasonable explanation why the outstanding items were not rectified and you owe PD a right of response before you throw a tanty. Your poor SS most likely arranged for the defects to be rectified and was let down by his trades- we all know how unreliable they can be. [/quote]
My censored language started with a P and I didnt expect that it would be classed as a sensitive word. That one made me laugh. I can see why you thought it might have started with a different letter of the alphabet. Im just sick of being * too, it wasnt about the tradies. When I left the house we were told that SS needed to run down to bunnings and pick up x,y,z and that everything was set and was going to happen. It seems that he walked out at the sametime as us and that was it. I do agree that there are others in a far worse position on this BB, that doesnt mean I shouldnt accept defects on my build. What has really upset me is the broken promises. Tell me one thing and then as soon as my back is turned, do another The nightmare client comment is a take on what our SS has already said about us. The thread that you draw attention too is about wanting to cash in on builders errors. I just want my house built to the proper standard as promised by PD and my SS. Re: Porter Davis homes 1379Mar 13, 2011 10:08 pm jezz.wong Hello, New to this and the building scene. Some intereting comment made about the building process through PD. We are looking to build PD's Davenport 29 and as i'm new to the building scene does anyone have any useful tips? things to consider/look out for? What to do and not to do? We're also looking into 'Ducted Air Con'. Does anyone have any suggestions for suppliers etc...?? Hi Jezz, Best thing to remember is any volume builders out there are the same, some are slightly better than others but most of them have too many projects than they can handle. You have to be on top of everything, make sure you know what they are doing & double check everything against your contract & drawings. Make sure you use independent inspector for peace of mind & don't let them push you. Read the contract & make sure you understand every single clause. Do not assume anything, ask for clarification if you are in doubt. Don't worry about the negative comments in the forums, most people who post in the forums have bad experiences, those who don't have bad experiences don't normally post in the forums. We didn't get any ducted air con for ours, we got evaporative cooling, so can't help you there. __________________________________________ Built Camberwell 29 with PD - Hand Over was on 22/12/10 http://ssazcamberwell29.blogspot.com/ Re: Porter Davis homes 1380Mar 14, 2011 2:32 pm inverell Victoria_g06 Yes, I asked for a copy of their inspections but was told I couldn't have it because I wouldn't understand it. When I met my SS he pointed out drawings on the wall indicating things that needed to be fixed, I did notice they were fixed but how many things are left due to discretion? They all have targets to meet and somethings are going to get left .. I will be getting a final inspection done just for my piece of mind, I really don't like the way my bricks are looking, and my SS said the brickie was "the best". I'm not so sure. Clients are entitled to all material documents relating to their build, including independent surveyor’s reports. It is amazing how quickly my builder furnished me with all manner of requested documents when I refused to make a progress payment. Hi Inverell, Can I ask who did you build with and what kind of documents did they release to you. I was wondering if PD will release all the documents for our appliances with the warranty cards etc.. Just by any chance are you in the reflections estate? tks pup Three options 1 Ask the liquidator 2 Find another PD customer and ask the source of their report 3 Pay for new report 3 12345 Ask for references and speak to them. If they are defensive or try to avoid the request, walk. 1 74717 I would never build with Fowler homes. I built with them in 2021 and till date maintenance issues are pending. All their existing trades and businesses don't work with… 14 105609 |