Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 12, 2011 11:04 pm Hi all, I have recently finished building with Clarendon Homes and need some urgent professional advice on the acrylic rendering finish they have done to the front of my house. The requirement on the contract was to provide acrylic rendered colour finish to front porch, piers and balcony areas. I am not happy with the finish as I was expecting a nice smooth even finsh. I have told Clarendon to fix it up. The only thing they did was add another two coats of paint. Clarendon has said there's nothing else they can do as acrylic rendering finish is like that and my use of the up and down lights only makes things worst. Clarendon has told me to change the up and down lights to something else! I have attached a pic for your reference. Can you please have a look and see what you think?? Is Clarendon right with the acrylic rendering finish or have they done a poor job and need to fix it. I want to know where i stand with this issue? Appreciate any response to this issue. Thank heaps for your time! Andy Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 2May 12, 2011 11:58 pm Looks bagged and not rendered to me. Pretty ordinary render job My building thread : viewtopic.php?f=31&t=36059 Paid initial deposit 24/7/10 Tender appointment 20/8/2010 Flooring and tile appointment 25/9/10 Colour and Electrical appointment 13/9/10 December site start delayed Site start (YAY!) 17/1/11 Slab pour 1/2/2011 Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 3May 13, 2011 10:15 am Thanks Building1. It is definitely suppose to be acrylic rendered. So do I have a case with Clarendon? If Clarendon decides not to do anything ... what should i be doing next? Fair Trading? Thanks Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 4May 13, 2011 10:34 am atx Thanks Building1. It is definitely suppose to be acrylic rendered. So do I have a case with Clarendon? If Clarendon decides not to do anything ... what should i be doing next? Fair Trading? Thanks What does the render on their displays look like? Does it look the same as your home? I would be taking pics of their displays and comparing it to your home, and if there is a difference I would be pointing it out to them and giving them a chance to respond and correct, then take it from there. My building thread : viewtopic.php?f=31&t=36059 Paid initial deposit 24/7/10 Tender appointment 20/8/2010 Flooring and tile appointment 25/9/10 Colour and Electrical appointment 13/9/10 December site start delayed Site start (YAY!) 17/1/11 Slab pour 1/2/2011 Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 6May 13, 2011 11:03 am hi atx that doesnt look like acrylic rendering at all. building1 is right, compare with the rendering from one of their display homes. I am building with them as well. I have got part of my front of house rendered(estate requirement). Negotiated into giving this for free . And was going to pay them to render the other half. so to have full front rendered. Having 2nd thoughts now, especially when they are asking for big $$ for render. Hope you sort out this issue. Whereabouts are you building? Cheers Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 8May 13, 2011 7:24 pm Thanks for all you advice! I just have tell Clarendon Home that they have done a bad job and need to fix it. rajan_g4 good luck! I would ask very carefully what finish you should be expecting and make sure its specified in the tender. We have built our house in the Epping area. What about yourself? Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 10May 13, 2011 8:02 pm There is something definitely wrong with that acrylic render. Regardless of the surface finish, rough or smooth, it shouldn't show the brickwork below! Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 11May 13, 2011 8:08 pm atx rajan_g4 good luck! I would ask very carefully what finish you should be expecting and make sure its specified in the tender. We have built our house in the Epping area. What about yourself? The contract clearly says acrylic Render. But I guess if this is what you get, then whats written doesnt really matter.. We are building in Craigieburn. Hasnt started yet. waiting for our land to settle..hopefully soon Keep us posted how you go with your fight with Clarendon Good luck ! Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 12May 13, 2011 9:08 pm Hi Casa2, This is what I have been trying to explain to Clarendon Homes. I can still see the outline of the brickworks! They are blaming the up and down lights that I use. They told me to change the lights. If thre is no light or sun shining on the pilars its hard to see this brickline. But you can still feel the slight ripple effect. After midday with the sun shining over the pilars the brickline is visible. Rajan_g4: Me bad ... What I meant to say was that even though its on the contract as acrylic render, ensure you have a pic or sample of what acrylic rendering that the both of you agree on. That way, when your house if completed and if you are not happy with the rendering finish you have the pic / sample to compare. Right now Clarendon Home is saying that is acrylic rendering and there's nothing else they can do. I paid go $$$ for this! Also, if you look closely you can see two holes being patched up where they incorrectly positioned the external lights. This also was a bad fix job! I will getting a professional acrylic renderer to assess. I will keep you guys posted. Any further responses or advice appreciated. Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 13May 13, 2011 9:27 pm atx They are blaming the up and down lights that I use. They told me to change the lights. If thre is no light or sun shining on the pilars its hard to see this brickline. But you can still feel the slight ripple effect. After midday with the sun shining over the pilars the brickline is visible. Thats ridiculous. "No light or sun shining on pillars.." next they will ask you is to block the sunlight altogether or look at the render with lights off at night. Has it passed independent property inspection yet? Maybe that will get them to fix the stuff up. atx Rajan_g4: Me bad ... What I meant to say was that even though its on the contract as acrylic render, ensure you have a pic or sample of what acrylic rendering that the both of you agree on. That way, when your house if completed and if you are not happy with the rendering finish you have the pic / sample to compare. Thanks for the advice. Will keep on eye on that. Just out of curiosity, could you pm me who your CSC and SS are? Thanks Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 14May 13, 2011 11:38 pm Proper acrylic render is a 2 part process. First the wall is floated with a mix of sand and cement and screeded flat. This removes all irregularities in the wall and gives you a dead flat surface. The second step is to apply the acrylic render. Because it is being applied to a dead flat surface it is applied with a flat trowel and smoothed off to a flat finish. Your example has definitely missed the first step. The problem may be that they have applied acryic render, just not how it's supposed to be done. I can take a picture of my acryic render tomorrow so you can see how it's meant to be done. In fact you will see both stages as the upstairs is finished but the ground floor only hase the first step done at this stage. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 15May 17, 2011 10:53 pm Thank you all for your responses. I finally got a professional renderer to look at the problem this morning. Chippy you are right. He said: Clarendon has definitely missed the first step and just applied the acrylic rendering. To fix this issue, the renderer quoted me cost $5k! I discussed this matter with Clarendon Homes all afternoon and they are standing firm with their decision not to fix it and that there's nothing else they can do. I'm starting to lose hope Clarendon will fix this issue. This is driving me insane everytime I turn on my external lights and see the brickline. I'm out of options. What should I do next to get Clarendon to fix this? Any suggested renders that will fix this issue less than <$5K. Thanks Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 16May 17, 2011 11:54 pm What sort of area are you talking about? Is it the whole house or just some feature pillars? Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 17May 17, 2011 11:58 pm atx, did you get independent inspection done after handover? Wonder how this would have passed the inspection. I am currently debating with Clarendon over some other issues regarding my build. havent started yet. Hope you sort things out man. Good luck ! Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 18May 18, 2011 8:24 am atx Thank you all for your responses. I finally got a professional renderer to look at the problem this morning. Chippy you are right. He said: Clarendon has definitely missed the first step and just applied the acrylic rendering. To fix this issue, the renderer quoted me cost $5k! I discussed this matter with Clarendon Homes all afternoon and they are standing firm with their decision not to fix it and that there's nothing else they can do. I'm starting to lose hope Clarendon will fix this issue. This is driving me insane everytime I turn on my external lights and see the brickline. I'm out of options. What should I do next to get Clarendon to fix this? Any suggested renders that will fix this issue less than <$5K. Thanks Simple. Look at Clarendon display homes. If they have missed the first step then you are in trouble. If the Clarendon display home are done as expected (2 coats) then Clarendon have no chocie but to fix it. My money is on Clarendon's display homes are rendered correctly, otherwise they would look disgusting. (I gues you need to find display homes with acrylic render to check.) I would stand my ground and get Dept of Fair Trading (or the equivalent in your state) involved. You did not get what you, or anyt reasonable person, would expect. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 19May 25, 2011 6:47 pm oh how dissapointing, it definately doesnt look right. We have an acrylic render and although it looks rougher than the smoothed pic its definately a different look and you cannot see any lines. least of all bricks. Its worth the energy in fighting it and getting it corrected. Did you use an external inspector at all ? Sorry havent read whole thread - because if you are not finished the build I would definately contact a private inspector like HOward Ryan. Villina with Contemporary Facade + Alfresco *Demo 22/4/2010 *Pool 04/05/2010 *Released to Construction 24/05/2010 *Slab 29 June 2010 *Start of Frame 30 July 2010 - 21 Aug 2010 *Bricks started 14/09/2010 - 13/10/2010 *Roof started (Facsia) 15/10/2010 *Lock Up 10/12/2010 *PCI 18 Feb *Keys in hand 24 Feb *IOC 09 March 2011 My Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=39843 Re: Acrylic Rendering with new Clarendon Home 20May 30, 2011 8:58 pm Hi all, The saga continues. The Clarendon Construcation Area Manager came to inspect the acrylic rendering today and explain that acrylic rendering is not a smooth finish and the problem is magnified by the use of my up and down lights. He also mention the dark brown colour of the paint also magnifies the impurities. I pointed it out to him that I can see the bricklines even when the lights are off. He has acknowledged that he too can see the bricklines and mention that the rendering job could have been done better. He then produces a 1m leveller and places it aganist the 2 pillars and points out that the rendering is within the (+-2mm) tolerance. He continues to say that within Clarendon and the Fair Trading building standards this is acceptanble and that Clarendon is not oblidged to fix the issue. I continue to say that this is not what I paid for and that the acrylic rendering at their display homes doesn't look like this. A salesperson looking at my rendering pictures initially thought it was a bagged finish! He further frustrated me by saying that, if Clarendon does decide to fix the issue, there are no gurantees that the bricklines will disappear and the finish might look worst than now! WTF ! Anyhow, he has decided to investigate who the render was and how the rendering was applied. They will then have a board meeting and decide on what they can do for me. He said that he will get back to me by tomorrow! This is becoming a nightmare. Given this acrylic rendering issue, what is the correct process to fix this permanantly? I just want to ensure if Clarendon decides to fix the issue, they do it right this time. Thanks Hi Alex, Thanks for the reply again. I had a chat with the builder, he said he will use primer, then hydrotec which comes with colour and sealer as well. A Renderer I… 12 18102 Suggestions please for acrylic rendering Color to match austral brick urban one pepper. Pic for reference. Thanks 0 5071 It's a classic case of aesthetics subjugating function where style takes precedence over practicality. 3 3947 |