Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jan 07, 2011 12:43 am H3nley has already slashed their prices across the range by average of $6000 to $7000 while maintaining the same promotion deals. Looking at this http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/building-approvals-hit-again/story-e6frfh4f-1225982934088, do you think other volume builders will follow? I'm looking at building in 2011, big M was shortlisted but now H3nley is getting the attention too! Bring it on! Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 2Jan 07, 2011 7:07 am I have noticed that PD seem to have left their Prestige range houses at 2010 prices (I'm not familiar with the other ranges) while the Carlisle home we are looking seems to have risen $2k in price. Carlisle are not running their upgrade promotion which finished in December. PD are still running their upgrade promotions, including the Hebel offer. I have been desperately trying to find a Henley plan that suits us - their prices are markedly lower, and a friend of ours built with Henley and their home is really lovely. Unfortunately they don't have anything that suits our needs I'm hoping some of the other volume builders either follow suit and drop their prices, or bring on the big promotions this year, our land titles in Sept 2011 so we have plenty of time. Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 3Jan 07, 2011 8:04 am Carlisle build a great house Pinchy. Which design are you looking at? September may seem like a long way away, but it goes pretty quickly! Hopefully you don't do what we did and change your mind completely at contract, then start all over again. I guess it DID give us something to do while waiting for our land to title!!! Building Carlisle Homes "Monaco" @ The Avenue at Casey What's happening?... Handed over July 28, now making it home Follow our progress:: http://destination3977.blogspot.com/ Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 4Jan 07, 2011 8:15 am If $6-7k makes you choose a different builder you probably shouldn't build at all. Building a house to make your home is a very big step. Most of us need to make sacrifices along the way, but I think sometimes people make the wrong sacrifice. Get the structure right from the start. My In-Laws constantly whine about the "extra meter" they should have added when they built their extension, but guess what? Its too late now! Look at sacrificing things like quality of carpet, fittings and door furniture. These are easily replaceable and can save you a lot of money if you stick with the standard (albeit boring) fitting allowed. Also look at your choice of appliances and bench tops. Stone may be the in thing but the quality you get from your builder isn't that great for the money. Deal with laminate and lower end appliances that still an OK job for a few years then upgrade. Your bench won't change size but you may be able to make it longer or add in some extra cupboards instead of stone and high end stuff. Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 5Jan 07, 2011 8:54 am Reinsey Carlisle build a great house Pinchy. Which design are you looking at? September may seem like a long way away, but it goes pretty quickly! Hopefully you don't do what we did and change your mind completely at contract, then start all over again. I guess it DID give us something to do while waiting for our land to title!!! We are looking at the Atlantique. We have modified it a bit to include a couple of things we want, ie, kids activity room, butler pantry etc, but now having a slight problem getting it into our building envelope However, now they are not offering the upgrade promotion that will make a significant difference to our costs. Also, DH doesn't like the meals area being in a 'traffic' area to Rumpus and Alfresco, he would prefer a more seperate meals area, so we are still not 100% sold on the house, although it is a great design and I love the huge alfresco! Deb also suggested the Haven, which I am going to try to look at in the next couple of weeks. chrisandkate If $6-7k makes you choose a different builder you probably shouldn't build at all. No one is suggesting they would choose a different builder just to save $7k. However, Henley's prices are significantly lower than some of the other volume builders for a similar size home, and the finished product seems to be good quality. I agree with your suggestion to get the structure right at the start - we know exactly what we require in a floor plan and we are happy to sacrifice some of the superficial things (which we can add on/upgrade later) in order to get the floorplan right. Our problem is fitting the desired floorplan into our building envelope! Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 6Jan 07, 2011 9:12 am Pinchy No one is suggesting they would choose a different builder just to save $7k. However, Henley's prices are significantly lower than some of the other volume builders for a similar size home, and the finished product seems to be good quality. I agree with your suggestion to get the structure right at the start - we know exactly what we require in a floor plan and we are happy to sacrifice some of the superficial things (which we can add on/upgrade later) in order to get the floorplan right. Our problem is fitting the desired floorplan into our building envelope! No worries, it just sounded like some builders had been excluded due to the extra few $k Good luck finding your plan. Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 7Jan 07, 2011 10:10 am Pinchy If $6-7k makes you choose a different builder you probably shouldn't build at all. No one is suggesting they would choose a different builder just to save $7k. However, Henley's prices are significantly lower than some of the other volume builders for a similar size home, and the finished product seems to be good quality. Volume builders, in past experience, have an uncanny knack for making up discounts somewhere else whether it be in the slab costs, upgrades etc. Even though you say Henley have dropped their prices by $6-7k you should probably talk to someone who has recently built and find out what the contract end value compared to the initial estimate was and what extras they had to pay. That should help I think Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 8Jan 07, 2011 11:38 am Pinchy from my understanding looking at the Carlisle website they still have the upgrades but they're included.in the base price of the house. There's no $3999 charge like last year when we signed up! Sleven Moved into our Atlantique MkII 36 by Carlisle Homes Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 9Jan 07, 2011 11:48 am Pinchy, Where abouts in Melbourne are you building?? Have you looked at NBG or Aaron J Homes??? NBG are very flexible with their floor plans Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 10Jan 07, 2011 1:19 pm chrisandkate Pinchy No one is suggesting they would choose a different builder just to save $7k. However, Henley's prices are significantly lower than some of the other volume builders for a similar size home, and the finished product seems to be good quality. I agree with your suggestion to get the structure right at the start - we know exactly what we require in a floor plan and we are happy to sacrifice some of the superficial things (which we can add on/upgrade later) in order to get the floorplan right. Our problem is fitting the desired floorplan into our building envelope! No worries, it just sounded like some builders had been excluded due to the extra few $k Good luck finding your plan. I just stated that now h3nley got our attention too with lower base prices. It's a bit arrogant to assume people shouldn't build if they want to save 6 or 7 grand. I think everyone knows base price alone doesn't mean much. Anyway back to the topic: big M just released pricing for 2011 with same base prices and a revised promotion which actually looks quite good. They have a $20K site cost offer which I think is new and extra, am I right? http://www.metricon.com.au/melbourne/buying-guide/designer-promotion/spoilt-for-choice Regarding Carl1sle, it was actually our number one choice but they don't build where we want. In fact they don't seem to build in a lot of places. I guess that's how smaller builders operate Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 11Jan 07, 2011 3:49 pm Don't go assuming they are cheaper.. I'm building with Henley and asked them about their price reduciton, this was their response: "There has been a change in the base price of our homes keeping in mind that some of the promotions are not available on the new base price. i.e. no PV Cells included, No promotional pricing on laminate flooring and the heating on is no longer 5 star rated." There would be no way that prices would ever drop without taking something out! They're not going to give you the same for less! There's a whole thread on it here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=42321 Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 12Jan 08, 2011 2:36 pm flagstaffIV Pinchy, Where abouts in Melbourne are you building?? Have you looked at NBG or Aaron J Homes??? NBG are very flexible with their floor plans Flaggie we are building at Settlers Run, thank you for the suggestions, have glanced at Aaron J's website but haven't spoken to them yet but I probably will. My DH doesn't want to build with NBG. sleven Pinchy from my understanding looking at the Carlisle website they still have the upgrades but they're included.in the base price of the house. There's no $3999 charge like last year when we signed up! I got all excited when I read that Sleven, but I can't find on the website where they are still including the promotional upgrades? The $3999 included floor covering, caesarstone benchtops, timber look garage door, and a selection of dishwasher, fly screens, remote control garage door, alarm, ducted vac, additional downlights. If you can show me where they are on the website I'd be most interested! Cheers Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 13Jan 08, 2011 10:42 pm Pinchy sleven Pinchy from my understanding looking at the Carlisle website they still have the upgrades but they're included.in the base price of the house. There's no $3999 charge like last year when we signed up! I got all excited when I read that Sleven, but I can't find on the website where they are still including the promotional upgrades? The $3999 included floor covering, caesarstone benchtops, timber look garage door, and a selection of dishwasher, fly screens, remote control garage door, alarm, ducted vac, additional downlights. If you can show me where they are on the website I'd be most interested! Cheers Here is the link to the promo page http://www.carlislehomes.com.au/promotions not sure which range of homes you were looking at... but the Affinity one is now "Luxury Living" and the T-Range is now "As Displayed" sale - there is also a new range of homes too! You can click along the right hand side of the screen - it jumps around a bit when you hover over the different ranges! Sleven Moved into our Atlantique MkII 36 by Carlisle Homes Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 14Jan 09, 2011 6:54 am Hi Sleven, thank you so much for your reply I did look at that promotions page, but can only click on the 'T-Range' promotion for more info. We are looking at the Atlantique (snap ) but I can't click on the 'Affinity Range' promotion for more info, in fact I didn't realise it was actually a promotion, I thought it was just saying that the Affinity Range is a luxury collection Are you able to click on it for more info? It may be a problem with this laptop I'm using (my computer's in the shop for repairs ) Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 15Jan 10, 2011 4:02 pm Sleven, the link worked Thank you for the tip, I'm very excited that the upgrades are 1. still available and 2. included in the base price Will be following up with Carlisle to see if they can make the changes we require to the Atlantique. Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 17Jan 11, 2011 5:50 pm Thanks Sleven, I love what you've done with yours so far! Although I'm still trying to sell DH on the Atlantique - he likes it, but he has a problem with the meals area. He has this very firm idea that the dining table should be seperate, not in a 'walkway', and he doesn't like where the dining table sits in the Atlantique. I think he doesn't want his dinner interrupted by all our kids running to the Rumpus and the Alfresco. Which I can understand. But I still *heart* the house. Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 18Jan 11, 2011 5:56 pm chrisandkate If $6-7k makes you choose a different builder you probably shouldn't build at all. Building a house to make your home is a very big step. Most of us need to make sacrifices along the way, but I think sometimes people make the wrong sacrifice. Get the structure right from the start. My In-Laws constantly whine about the "extra meter" they should have added when they built their extension, but guess what? Its too late now! Look at sacrificing things like quality of carpet, fittings and door furniture. These are easily replaceable and can save you a lot of money if you stick with the standard (albeit boring) fitting allowed. Also look at your choice of appliances and bench tops. Stone may be the in thing but the quality you get from your builder isn't that great for the money. Deal with laminate and lower end appliances that still an OK job for a few years then upgrade. Your bench won't change size but you may be able to make it longer or add in some extra cupboards instead of stone and high end stuff. Really well said The structure/design is the most important thing - the rest is cosmetic and will date Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 19Jan 11, 2011 9:31 pm Pinchy Thanks Sleven, I love what you've done with yours so far! Although I'm still trying to sell DH on the Atlantique - he likes it, but he has a problem with the meals area. He has this very firm idea that the dining table should be seperate, not in a 'walkway', and he doesn't like where the dining table sits in the Atlantique. I think he doesn't want his dinner interrupted by all our kids running to the Rumpus and the Alfresco. Which I can understand. But I still *heart* the house. Thanks for the compliment! Still a long way to go yet!!! Wow - i never saw the dining room like that? Will your kids not be eating at the same time? Maybe put doors on the Rumpus - this may make it feel more of a closed off room?! Or make the Rumpus room your dining... (just tell him that then put your dining table in the proper spot when you move in!!! ) Good luck with converting him... if I think of more positive arguments I'll let you know Sleven Moved into our Atlantique MkII 36 by Carlisle Homes Re: New lower prices in 2011 - volume builders? 20Jan 11, 2011 9:45 pm Wow - i never saw the dining room like that? Will your kids not be eating at the same time? Maybe put doors on the Rumpus - this may make it feel more of a closed off room?! Or make the Rumpus room your dining... (just tell him that then put your dining table in the proper spot when you move in!!! ) Good luck with converting him... if I think of more positive arguments I'll let you know [/quote] Thanks for the tips, I'll see if I can convince him. Yes, the kids usually eat at the same time as us, but I think he's concerned about when we have friends over (all our friends have kids too) and the adults still seated around the table with loads of kids running by. We have seen 2 other display homes we loved and they both have the meals area a little more 'seperate'. Keep me posted if you think of any more selling points *OP sorry I've hijacked the thread Hi there, We’ve recently had plans approved to add a 1st storey addition to our existing house for a growing family in Sydney. With the current cost of building… 0 4296 I am looking to design an entry door to a lower ground basement that has 2200mm between the external entry height to FFL of the ground floor. This door will provide an… 0 11369 go upvc window frames ensure insulation under colorbond. not just sarking, lighter color roof also not sure if you have seen this viewtopic.php?t=5823 last couple of pages… 4 110571 |