Amber
yeah, that's the one
I know you've probably mentioned it before V but what did you build?
I know you've probably mentioned it before V but what did you build?
Lifestyle (the Dromana)
Browse Forums Building A New House Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 21Nov 27, 2007 2:12 pm Amber yeah, that's the one I know you've probably mentioned it before V but what did you build? Lifestyle (the Dromana) Built Porter Davis "Dromana" 2007. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 22Nov 27, 2007 3:09 pm davinci when you view display the sales will give you or inform you of the two diffrent levels of pd , when i looked at pd i looked at 'el cheapo' , but they still are quality homes Sorry, but you have got me confused, we were never advised of two different levels We built an "access' home which is PD's 'entry level' range. Ours is no different to a 'lifestyle' branded home except at 26sq is smaller then most lifestyle homes. Vanderlay, we have also had some issues but our super has been fantastic with follow up calls and having things recitifed. He has even popped in a couple of times to see how we were going when he was checking on other homes in the area. Maybe we are lucky after our lack of consistency with supers during our build Our neighbour also built a 'lifestyle' home and has had no end of dramas. She is only just moving in today and her handover was meant to be a couple of weeks before ours. I hope things get sorted ASAP for you. Keep on their backs, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 23Nov 27, 2007 3:59 pm rellie……. Love the avatar!!!!! Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 24Nov 27, 2007 7:43 pm V,
mate I am feeling your pain.... Don't even get me started on "glancing light" issues... Good luck mate Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 25Nov 27, 2007 7:57 pm vanderlay Mikita Really sorry to read all this, Vanderlay. We're building with PD too and wil almost certainly get an independent inspector after reading all this. My understanding was that an PD had an indepenent inspector that checks each of the stages - is that not the case? It sounds like you did it by yourselves. We've assumed (incorrectly it would seem) that the inspector would walk through the house at each of the stages and pick up things along with us. They do have their own inspector that checks 3 times I think - seems to be a token job more for look than anything else - we would actually go through and laugh at what they chose to put stickers - they would put a sticker to mark a barely noticeble mark on the paint, while ignoring a big and obvious problem a meter away!! We had Kevin (like quite a few people others!) go through for us - well worth it!! Well you've convinced me. Did you tell PD right from the beginning you were having Kevin come through? Just wondering if it would make a difference if they knew someone else was going to be 'judging' from the start. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 26Nov 27, 2007 10:27 pm Has anyone in this forum seen the report ? or asked for it ?
The markings probably be done by the supervisor to show inspection has been carried out. Picked the lesser of fault to show they care (or as a decoy ). vanderlay They do have their own inspector that checks 3 times I think - seems to be a token job more for look than anything else - we would actually go through and laugh at what they chose to put stickers - they would put a sticker to mark a barely noticeble mark on the paint, while ignoring a big and obvious problem a meter away!! We had Kevin (like quite a few people others!) go through for us - well worth it!! Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 27Nov 28, 2007 6:58 am OMG!!!!!!! Don't get me started
Three months on and rectifying tradies due at 8.30am turn up at 11.45am. Tell you what,if you like to draw an analogy, remember that election we had to have on the 24th of Nov? Well PD is Bennalong and Johnny rolled into one. We wish. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 28Nov 28, 2007 7:42 am Yes, PD have the independant inspections and i don't think they do anything about it.
Hi Grime, Ive checked your blog and we also have continuous problems with PD. I still don't undertsand why we are still building with them. Kwhy Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 29Nov 28, 2007 8:13 am mattwalker V, mate I am feeling your pain.... Don't even get me started on "glancing light" issues... Good luck mate oh yeah!! "glancing light" : builders bullsh1t code for "yes, we've done a crap job, but hey, dont turn a light on and your house looks great!" Built Porter Davis "Dromana" 2007. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 30Nov 28, 2007 12:32 pm I am getting a bit worried now. I have signed contract with PD Prestige West and awaiting land release but I am having second thoughts as with all this hassle is it worth it. I thought PD were ok from all reports as I built a few years ago with the Big M and that was a nightmare.
Currently my CSR at PD is hopeles so I thought PD construction may be better but if it is more of the same I will have a stress attack. If anyone could recommend good CSR at PD please private message me the names if possible. My only advice after building twice befor is never except it or move in before everything is completed 100%. Do not use maintanece for them to finish jobs use it as it is intended to pick up items that occur after handover. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 31Nov 28, 2007 12:34 pm Just so noone is under any illusion - the builder's own independent inspectors do FA. In theory those inspectors oversee the key stages like teh slab, the frame, etc, but in reallity they just rubber stamp reports and get paid by the builders to do it.
If you want anything checked properly, you have to pay someone to do it, so you are their client - not the builder. I also thought that telling the supervisor about the future inspection will make sure he spends more time on the job and gets it right, but it doesn't work that way. Supervisors are just way too busy at most building companies, so all they do is coordinate the trades. If you never have any inpsections done, and you're not a builder yourself, you may well find out 3 years later that your walls aren't straight, you have water underneath your floors and you have a roof that can't withstand a massive downpoor which only happens once every 3 years... Currently Building in Bayside (Brighton East) Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 32Nov 28, 2007 2:00 pm You are right. These inspectors work for the builders and not for you. Also allow 2-3 months after the proposed handover date so that u are in no rush move out of your current home. At least then you can hold on the final payment. One thing i found pd is good at is the invoice dept (they send you invoice before the completion of each stage and they follow up with phone calls !!)
kwhy Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 33Nov 28, 2007 2:31 pm **Phoenix** Funny how they just won the HIA Customer Service Award for 2007. It wouldn't hurt them to be more Customer & Quality Focused now would it!!!!? Kind of reminds me of my problem with my mortgage lender - A.N.Z. Almost 10 months down the track and my problem regarding my mortgage is still not fixed. 'Home Loan Lender of the Year' they say? [sneakersss] Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 34Nov 28, 2007 4:28 pm We moved into our PD home back in April (over 7 months ago now).
Now...before I start...we still love our home & are very happy with it. And I probably wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. But a few things have really soured the experience for us...well, ok one main thing - the fact that we *still* have things outstanding from handover. Seven months ago. Maintenance have been really good at getting their outstanding items done. The site supervisor, however, hasn't. It ended up with us getting managers & the like involved, hands being slapped, etc. I've written about it before on the forum, so won't list everything again (because it just makes me cross). And don't get me started on the painter. If I see him again (& he is supposed to come back but I doubt he will), I will hit him. I'm that fed up with the no-shows & ** workmanship. Argh. Yay for independent inspections, though - if we hadn't had one done, I suspect we would be still battling to get a few things finished properly (because it formed part of our "list of things to do at handover"). Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 35Nov 28, 2007 9:31 pm Epiphany my friend built with them and im building with them .anyway he wasnt happy either with his painter( wonder if it was the same painter you had) he ended up having to paint the house all over again himself when he moved in. and of cause their were other other issues. ive upgraded my paint .hopefully i will get a good quality paint job. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 36Nov 29, 2007 5:41 am Clath Our interior wall paint job was so bad in the main living areas that the building manager who happened to be there on the day at handover rang the painter himself and gave him a Basil Fawlty.Most of our walls ended up with an extra coat.
The wall paint as used by the painters was mistinted between batches.We got left with the 2nd batch so any minor jobs done now require painting of a whole wall to hide the difference. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 37Nov 29, 2007 10:48 am My experience was that you got only two coats of watered down paint and that was poorly applied.
You really need one sealer coat and two top coats to get adequate coverage, but from what I can gather builders will only apply two coats. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 38Nov 29, 2007 12:54 pm We paid for the three coats. The issue wasn't so much the overall quality so much as touching up small portions that needed to be redone & redoing the stain on our wooden doors & windows.
He consistently did no-shows when he was supposed to come round...not even a phone call to say he wouldn't be there. The touch ups were **. Paint dripped on my wooden floor & on the carpet (& paint finger marks left on surfaces...not to mention the other men who work for him just dumped rubbish where they were standing outside). Things not being done at all. And the latest was when he came to touch up stain, he just painted it (stain) over the gloss finish & left it. No sanding. No gloss over the top. My doors & windows look like crap now. The site supervisor phoned him up about it but I haven't heard anything since & he certainly hasn't been round to fix it. Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 39Nov 29, 2007 1:57 pm Ive upgraded my paint .so instead of the standard range of paint PD offers which is Wattyl sunfast. im having wattyl ID. Which means a sealer and 2 coats of paint hopefully Ive paid $1,300 for that upgrade . (coz it was a post contract variation.). I dont want to have to repaint anytime soon due to a ** job. so i hope they do a good job or else Re: One Porter Davis Frustration After Another.... 40Nov 29, 2007 5:34 pm We have the following paint in our contract....
External (fascia, gutter, downpipes, wodwork)-> Wattyl, Sunfast Low Sheen Internal (woodwork & Doors) --> Wattyl, EasyFlow Gloss Internal (Walls) --> Wattyl, Low Sheen washable Velvet Ceiling --> Wattyl, Suprtcover white. Anyone have any comment? I know nothing about paint... We have also 3 or 4 feature walls going up with dark colours... Have just received our post contract variation so have time to change...... thanks Bernard. 1 62015 Three options 1 Ask the liquidator 2 Find another PD customer and ask the source of their report 3 Pay for new report 3 12320 Hi, Apologies - I know there is plenty out there on this but struggling to put together the puzzle. We're planning our garage/external laundry to master bedroom and… 0 11096 |