Building A New House
Re: How often do you visit your site?621
Jun 13, 2018 12:56 am
I will not be visiting my site at all. First time I see it will be when they hand me the keys I live 8 hours away which is my excuse and after making four return trips down there pre-construction (which really took a toll on me), I don't feel up to making any more till the handover. I have been dealing with this builder for 8 months now, have likely sent them in excess of a thousand emails, have visited them twice (once they paid for me to stay in a pretty high quality hotel) and they have gone out of their way to be extremely professional and thorough. Sufficient for me to trust them and let them get on with the job in peace (mind you, I was incredibly pedantic about precisely what I wanted and paid a huge amount of attention to every detail in the contract).
Even if I lived close to it I'd probably at best just drive by once a fortnight or so. But I would not get out of the car. The builder will be sending me a serious of photos at the completion of each stage, which is all I have asked them to do. The only exception I made to the "photos at the end of each stage" request is an additional series of photos once the insulation has been put in and before any plastering has taken place. After all, there is no possible way to check what went into the walls once the house is finished. I had a very bad experience when I built 20 years ago when visiting my site (finding an issue) and after that I came to the conclusion that is is better to simply leave the builder alone and let them do their stuff. Butting in, sticky-beaking and asking too many questions or pointing out "problems" just puts them off-side and does nothing to help the relationship in my experience anyway. If anything, they can become quite hostile.
I did not go to the factories to watch my two cars being built either. And they are perfectly fine. If there are issues I will deal with them at and after handover. I trust the builder sufficiently not to make stupid mistakes. They have built 6 homes in the same estate and all the owners are perfectly happy with them. Most of them have moved from afar and did not have the opportunity to visit their sites either.
Now if I get one dunny instead of two and a pink roof instead of a grey one, you can all tell me what a mad person I was not to go and visit!!
Re: How often do you visit your site?622
Jun 14, 2018 1:01 pm
I did not go to the factories to watch my two cars being built either. And they are perfectly fine.
Like your logic here. Yes if you trust the builder enough it's well and good. the problem is tradies and not the builders themselves. Tradies can be slack. Best of luck..
Looking to build a home in VIC.
Land titled in November 2017. Construction started in February 2018. Double storey 37sq.
Re: How often do you visit your site?623
Jun 14, 2018 1:14 pm
I agree with you that it is the tradies you need to watch as in the end they are the ones who will likely make a mega-blunder and not the supervisor (that was the case 20 years ago).
When I went with this builder I made certain that they did not use "random" tradies and that instead they were all long term ones that they used over and over again. I also made sure that the ones they used were contracted only to this company, or at the very least were on a permanent (for practical purposes) contract to the company. Their tradies even have to wear the very distinctive company uniform - that might sound exceptionally trivial but with that uniform comes an extra degree of responsibility in my opinion because they are there personally flying the company flag. I feel much happier about that than a builder simply finding a random tradie here and there for each section of the job.
Re: How often do you visit your site?624
Jul 04, 2018 3:43 pm
We visit the site every day or two. It's worth asking your supervisor when various tradies will be scheduled to be there. I agree with the comment above that it's more likely the tradies that will make a blunder. We visited last weekend and saw that the tiler had completely misunderstood our request about feature tiling in the ensuite. They'd put a single strip of floor tile on the wall, rather than tiling the entire wall with the floor tile. It had to be redone. They also didn't align our tiles along the bottom of the vanity properly, so it looked a real mess. We took lots of pics and were able to have it fixed the next day. I can't imagine how much of a pain it would have been to have fixed if we hadn't have known. Even though the supervisor visits the block and takes pics for us each week, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have known it was wrong until we'd seen a pic of it on the online portal.
I have felt a bit 'picky' at times when I have reported stuff to the supervisor that wasn't correct or seemed odd, but at the end of the day, I'm paying for it and I think it's alright to point this stuff out so long as you're not impeding the progress of the build or getting the in the way of the tradies.
Re: How often do you visit your site?627
Aug 22, 2018 2:36 pm
I don't really see the comparison between building a car and house. A car factory has strict process and quality control. A friend of mine took the approach that he didn't want to see the house until it was finished, and he put all his faith in the builder. He regrets it every day.
My site supervisor is looking after 18 builds, just about all all of them quite far away from me. He also lives far away. Simple mathematics indicates that he will not be spending a lot of time on my site.
I am there just about every day keeping an eye on things
Talking to him I almost got the feeling he is glad I engaged Darbecca, as they will do part of his job for him .....
Re: How often do you visit your site?628
Aug 22, 2018 7:53 pm
I was similar to your friend. I expected basic quality standards would be followed. During frame stage I lost confidence so used an experienced building consultant David Seville and went back to check big things he had identified were fixed and had he SS send photos of some other fixed items.
A few items I didn’t go back and check. I thought were standard easy fixes as had been assured they were by the SS eg self leveller used by flooring companies. I didn’t check and do regret it. Having some of these items fixed later caused damage and one area wasn’t even fixed properly....much later the senior building manager used a straight edge and not a spirit level on floorboards on slab. Guide of standard and tolerances shows how floor levels should be checked and when to use straight edge vs sprit level.
My SS had 10 sites. Duplexes were considered 1 site, so 12 homes. Even 10 did not assure that he visited and checked very much at my home. He had tried to dissuade me from using an inspector stating that the building surveyor checked everything so I could have inspections but it was waste of $.
Site supervisors are busy and also for many training is limited. Next time I would live very nearby and visit several times per week.
Re: How often do you visit your site?629
Aug 23, 2018 2:58 pm
Once a week or so. Feel a bit nervous for my parents site. Also I'm trying to convince my father that he must control the process from the beginning, so he wouldn't regret it later. Our supervisor is his old friend, but I don't like the way he's working. He's quite experienced man (as he says), yet I don't trust him. Caught him once, when he tried to leave a few items I mentioned earlier unfixed.
Have a bad feeling about this.
Re: How often do you visit your site?630
Aug 24, 2018 12:33 pm
I arrived on site yesterday for an inspection with Darbecca. I was a bit early and site supervisor was leaving as I arrived - I expressed surprise that he wasn't staying - "I don't need to, it's all good and they won't find any defects"
Some of the defects were so obvious I picked them up myself.
Re: How often do you visit your site?632
Sep 23, 2018 11:42 am
We live 10 minutes from our block of land, so we visit at least once sometimes twice a week. It's 2.5acres with an amazingly stunning view so we often just sit on the block, kick the soccer ball around and just generally escape from our current suburban life if that makes sense.
Re: How often do you visit your site?635
Dec 16, 2018 10:50 pm
guys we live quite far away from the site so we hardly visit have only met the SS once . Went yesterday to find out that gates were unlocked and wide open . Had a feeling someone must be working inside so went in and called out - no reply . But to my shock our whole house was flooded.what a disaster . Not sure what to do now. this is btw Metricon build in sydney .
Re: How often do you visit your site?637
Dec 17, 2018 9:35 am
Holy brutal. What are you going to do?
I couldn't sleep kept thinking about it . I have written to them but no response yet . Even if they dry it out , the walls will become mouldy. I am just shocked that how come they didn't secure the place , made sure that there is no inlet of rain water.
I need suggestions.
Re: How often do you visit your site?639
Dec 17, 2018 8:02 pm
I have no suggestions but whatever is afoul is on them and they will have to fix it. I'd get it assessed by someone for damage.
well they have said they will replace the doors and dry out the floor. I have asked them to get the stairs assessed by the supplier / manufacturer . There is a race against time as they wont be working past this friday so all this to be done in the next three days. Whew !
Re: How often do you visit your site?640
Jan 23, 2019 4:36 pm
We went most weekends (we lived 40kms away). Can't recommend it enough.
I even took a slab down for the brickies once, turns out they were muslim and didn't drink...oops
We kept on going through site managers (they were all leaving the company), went through 4 in total. I wanted to keep control of the situation, because in some cases there was obviously no "Hand over", and we found out our site manager was overseeing 14 homes. We took lots of photos. It was tough when little progress had been made, and we weren't afraid to say so (given our build went 6 months over) but we were paying the bills, and it was OUR house.
Once it got to lock up stage, we noticed that the upstairs french doors to the balcony, were not closing properly, so instead of saying something, we used it as our access. Took a ladder with us, and climbed up the front balcony.
Towards the end, the site manager had a pretty good idea, because he'd arrive on Monday and there was loads of yellow tape on the "defects".
Don't be afraid to go, you will find things and you'll have to say something, and they will know you went down. It's just how it goes. We've got a house we are really happy with, so it worked!!!
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