Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Nov 20, 2007 11:01 pm We have extended our garage sideways till the boundry of our land.
The brickwork for garage will start in about a week or so. we have 2 options for the finishing 1. Get rid of the existing fence and have the garage wall on boundry. As in this photo (our RHS Neighbour) http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... rhsxw2.jpg 2. leave existing fence and have the garage wall bricked up adjacent to fence with 150 mm gap in between. (this gap ensures our gutters do not encroach on next door neighbours property) As in this photo (our LHS border) http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... lhsjn3.jpg I would like to know what other have done in this situation. cheers V Re: garage on boundary 3Nov 21, 2007 4:58 am Can you not make it on the fence line, then attach the fence to the wall so it still flows as one visual image of a continuous fence?
a 6" (150mm) gap between a fence a brick wall is a pain and will just attract leaves, junk and vermin and is hard to clean out. Steve Re: garage on boundary 4Nov 21, 2007 8:34 am I have a dual occupancy next door and their wall is behind the fence. The gutter line is on their side of the fence. Later on (if I could be bothered) I may pull that bit of fence out and steal their land and make a wider garden bed. Nothing wrong with that is there? ![]() Oh...third choice, build the wall right on the boundary, extend the brickwork up and have the guttering inside the brick line, concealed guttering I think it's called. Then your garage is 150mm wider. Re: garage on boundary 5Nov 21, 2007 10:33 am In my last house the neighbours garage was on the boundary and it always bugged me that my fence had a big gap with horrid red bricks in the middle. I would ask their opinion. Must keep friendly with the neighbours ![]() Re: garage on boundary 6Nov 21, 2007 11:20 am Im surprised you're even allowed to build on the boundary. Very rare in Sydney. Re: garage on boundary 7Nov 21, 2007 11:27 am ![]() In my last house the neighbours garage was on the boundary and it always bugged me that my fence had a big gap with horrid red bricks in the middle. I would ask their opinion. Must keep friendly with the neighbours ![]() Phhhtttt......they're renters. Just thinking about it further, could be a good wall for the kids to learn tennis against ![]() Re: garage on boundary 8Nov 21, 2007 4:53 pm Our garage wall is right on the boundary. We have the boxed (from memory) guttering for that wall of the garage, which sits on the brickwork so nothing overhangs. A small gap will be a pain - think spideys!
It's technically your land, so as long as you don't go over the boundary there's nothing they can do about it... and it's less fence you'll have to pay for. Ray. Second Time 'Round Re: garage on boundary 9Nov 21, 2007 6:15 pm Having a garage wall as a fence make more sense but just remember that the neighbour can use that wall later on.
I think the first point would be talk to the neighbourhood. Better that fence is connecting people than divide ![]() cheers kate PS You can move the wall without window to the boundary, If I am not wrong up to 4metres long or sth similar lenght. Re: garage on boundary 10Nov 21, 2007 6:31 pm Looks like the people next door have their garages right on the boundary as well.
If you notice they don’t have boxed eves, just guttering. This is taking it to the max, and as Cookie said you can’t get away with this in Sydney nor where I live. There’s only a small portion of fence for you to be concerned about. Quite truthfully from the street with two homes build so close to each other it could look a little nasty. May not be good down the track for resale value. Tricky!!!! As far as your neighbour goes…they didn’t give too much thought to the next person moving onto this block, with their wall! I’d be looking to keep some sort of gape between the two homes. Good luck with your decision. ![]() Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: garage on boundary 11Nov 22, 2007 1:20 pm My current house has a 150mm gap and a short 1/2 height fence in front of it. My property is has quite a downslope and is also on the side of an overland flow area (flooding) so in my case it also helps to drain water around the outside of the property.
I agree that if you are allowed to build on the boundary, I would leave a 150mm gap and put a fence in. The 1/2 height fence makes it reasonably easy to access the roof and brickwork from the neighbors property. Greg Re: garage on boundary 12Nov 23, 2007 6:29 am Thank you all for the input.The next door owner-builder (who is also auctioning this weekend) has agreed to let us remove the fence for tidying up the bricks. Placing the fence back or not will have to be negotiated with the person who buys the place.. They have tall screening plants (pittosprums? or alike) along that side so spideys and roaches would be more their problem. I am planning to give them the choice and take it from there.
hope we get a sensible neighbour ![]() ![]() Re: garage on boundary 13Nov 23, 2007 7:47 am ![]() hope we get a sensible neighbour ![]() ![]() Uh-oh!... now you've put the mocker on it. ![]() Re: garage on boundary 14Nov 23, 2007 7:52 am Building on the boundary line has always been a grey area as far as neighbour relations go.
Personally I always try to steer clear of imposing a blank brick wall on neighbouring properties. If the wall is right on the boundary then it is required that the garage has a box gutter [ the gutter & / or fascia cannot be over the boundary line] with a parapet wall along the boundary line. This can create extra maintenance issues, having to ensure that the box gutter is free of leaves etc so that it won't block up & overflow into the garage [room]. In the picture linked to, the wall is set back around 150 - the gutter and fascia are within the boundary line - so to my mind this would be even more uglier from the neighbours point of view with the 'open' setback along the fence line. On the other hand the obvious problem with building a small distance off the boundary is that it's impossible to get access to the small area. Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. Re: garage on boundary 15Nov 23, 2007 9:18 am ![]() ![]() In my last house the neighbours garage was on the boundary and it always bugged me that my fence had a big gap with horrid red bricks in the middle. I would ask their opinion. Must keep friendly with the neighbours ![]() Phhhtttt......they're renters. Just thinking about it further, could be a good wall for the kids to learn tennis against ![]() So you dont need to bother being neighbourly with "just renters"? Re: garage on boundary 16Nov 23, 2007 9:26 am ![]() ![]() ![]() In my last house the neighbours garage was on the boundary and it always bugged me that my fence had a big gap with horrid red bricks in the middle. I would ask their opinion. Must keep friendly with the neighbours ![]() Phhhtttt......they're renters. Just thinking about it further, could be a good wall for the kids to learn tennis against ![]() So you dont need to bother being neighbourly with "just renters"? Nah. If they don't like me they can move. If they don't like Frankie Goes to Hollywood blaring from my garage at 9:30 on a saturday morning, then they can move. If they don't throw my kids tennis balls back when they find them in their 2 foot long weed patch that's invading my side of the fence, then they can move. If they start their diesel van at 6 am and leave it idling for ten minutes just outside my ensuite window, then they will get abused, then they can move. </rant> Re: garage on boundary 18Nov 23, 2007 9:43 am Thanks Ausdesign. your post summarises it. It has been hard to get the fence people to get quotes for the small job of removing and refinishing the fence. The guy who did it lives 70ks away and wasnt keen to do it. we have hence decided to simply have the fence and the gap there. It faces the neighbour's study room window. They will still see our garage walls above the fence. Re: garage on boundary 19Nov 23, 2007 9:56 am ![]() Cookie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() cookie, I am not building on Sesame street so leave me alone ![]() ![]() Thats a shame... everyone's friendly on Sesame St.. except that Oscar a-hole. thanks Chippy, i hope they have applied sealer but i am doubt to be honest, so i am gonna do this job after handover. 8 3310 You should be able to encase the sewer but you will need it designed and approved and access to lot 580 to do the work 2 4728 ![]() In WA zero lot is actually zero lot. We build 10mm in from the boundary. My house and my neighbours house have garages that sit only 20mm apart. When I had our roof done… 3 2973 ![]() |