Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jun 30, 2010 8:25 pm I've decided to start a thread on Lakeside Fibre to the House (FTTH). There has been a fair bit of discussion lately and it would be interesting to see this exciting bit of infrastructure evolve! Firstly - the main landing page for Lakeside FTTH is http://www.openetworks.com.au/Communities/Lakeside-Pakenham-FTTH/default.aspx This picture explains what the standard set up is http://www.openetworks.com.au/Images/UserUploadedImages/FTTH%20Pre%20Provisioning.jpg Note these components: #1 -CTC (or as ours was called, the ONT for Optical Network Termination) is a little cabinet usually near your meter box, which serves the purpose of converting your fibre connection, into data, phone and TV cables (Cat5e/6 ethernet and RG6). It does this by utilising a special device called an Optical Network Unit (ONU). Wiki has a good link on the techy details of what this is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Network_Unit #2 - HDC or "Hub" (Home distribution Cabinet) is where the cables all end up. This includes "from" your outside CTC box and "to" each of your rooms, where required. Data, phone, tv, the lot! It's located in the house because as time progresses, you or your service providers may need to connect additional cables or perhaps even install a wireless router (as seen in the later diagrams). The added bonus of utilising this system, means you have great flexibility with all your wall points. If you decide to have 2 data, or 2 phones in a room, instead of one.. you can.. they're the same connectors and all you would do is change which "bank" they plug into. The benefits of using Fibre (FTTH) Infrastructure are vast, however here are a few points: - superfast, leading edge network infrastructure (still need internet providers that will utilise it all, but that's another topic!) - No more paytv or phone line companies needing to drill holes in your wall. - flexibility or having ports redirected or added without needing to consult an electrician. - tv without antennas! free to air cable delivered over the fibre. - more competition for paytv, data and phone companies. - flexible levels of installation - meaning that you can choose not to have the home hub, and have your cables simply come from the CTC to your wall socket (1 phone, 1 data, 2 tv). Hubs for those houses that want more in-wall sockets (HDC). -FTTH is cheaper to maintain on a whole (opinion) and relies on only one format of cables to enter your property. *Update* There's also a brochure in PDF format.. http://www.openetworks.com.au/ArticleDocuments/574/OPENetworks%20Home%20Cabling%20Guide%20190910.pdf.aspx CDandRB have built: Victory 1500 (Boardwalk) in Devonia Park, Pakenham. Slab 27/7, Frame 6/8, Roof 19/8, Brick 30/8, Plaster 13/9, Fix 24/9, Paint 11/10, Tiles 15/10, E/P Fit offs: 18/10, Carpet 20/10. Blinds/Driveway 30/10. QA 8/11. PCI 22/11. Settled 1/12 Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32394 Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 2Jun 30, 2010 9:00 pm Excellent idea for a topic. What a bundle of fun we're all going to have with this FTTH business!!! After reading up that standard setup guide I'm beginning to wonder if my Builder has accounted for everything - I think so, but geeze, it's all quite confusing, and I'm in IT myself! My variation for the FTTH states: 1. Provide conduit for fibre optic connection, installation of Category 2 distribution box and 1 x cat 5E phone point - No Charge 2. Provide upgrade of optional connection to FTTP - $895, including; - installation of 4 x Cat 5E data points - installation of 3 x Cat 5E phone points - installation of 4 x TV Points And on my electrical layout drawings it states all of the above, but also adds: "Provide structured cabling pack with no alarm including: 1 No. Hills communication cabinet 4 No. Data outlets 4 No. Telephone outlets 4 No. Free to air outlets 1 No. Splitter box with 3 input points and 6 max outlets Communication hub with active splitter box for future antenna by others" I presume the "Hills communication cabinet" is the "HDC". Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 3Jun 30, 2010 10:47 pm Thank gosh for this thread cdandrb! It will hopefully lessen my confusion. Did everyone find their cabling contractor on the suggested list on the open networks website? http://www.openetworks.com.au/FTTH-Lake ... fault.aspx Sizz View Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=35699 Building with Aaron J Homes - Sahara 25 Land Settled: 11/6/10, Site Start: 26/11/10 - HANDOVER NOT TOO FAR AWAY!!! Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 4Jun 30, 2010 11:59 pm In our case we're unsure of who Burbank use for the cable contracting. The key message is to use an approved one or else O.N can refuse (and really, should) to connect you to the infrastructure, which would be painful! Other members have used b-linked and at the moment they'd be the suggestion The other question here is the registration steps, O.N seem to be asking people to register before construction, yet they're asking for move-in dates. I'm interested to hear if anyone has filled this in and been contacted, etc.. CDandRB have built: Victory 1500 (Boardwalk) in Devonia Park, Pakenham. Slab 27/7, Frame 6/8, Roof 19/8, Brick 30/8, Plaster 13/9, Fix 24/9, Paint 11/10, Tiles 15/10, E/P Fit offs: 18/10, Carpet 20/10. Blinds/Driveway 30/10. QA 8/11. PCI 22/11. Settled 1/12 Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32394 Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 5Jul 01, 2010 6:07 pm I've filled it in, and not had any contact except the standard forms (which Delfin gave) in the mail. For the move in date, I just approximated as I think they just use that for guaging their workload. Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 6Jul 11, 2010 1:26 am I haven't contacted openetworks yet, would it be easier just to ring them and register. or register online? by my plans the carrier termination cabinet will be on the side of house near electric meter. with Hub in garage. is that normal. We are getting Cat 2 Dis. box Cat 5e phone points and tv points. We have to cable from pit to dwelling after hand over.32mm white. My contract just states "lakeside" pack. who does that? Cdandrb did you up grade fibre or was yours standard with House package.? Sorry for dumb questions, but I will appreciate any help. Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 7Jul 11, 2010 1:33 am Same as mine, jabblo. Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 8Jul 11, 2010 11:19 am jabblo I haven't contacted openetworks yet, would it be easier just to ring them and register. or register online? by my plans the carrier termination cabinet will be on the side of house near electric meter. with Hub in garage. is that normal. We are getting Cat 2 Dis. box Cat 5e phone points and tv points. We have to cable from pit to dwelling after hand over.32mm white. My contract just states "lakeside" pack. who does that? Cdandrb did you up grade fibre or was yours standard with House package.? Sorry for dumb questions, but I will appreciate any help. There's no dumb questions Firstly, I would strongly suggest registering online. That is what our instructions say. There's no harm in calling them afterwards to discuss further. The hub in the garage is interesting, I was told that it's in the master bedroom WIR and that is reflected in our plans. Personally I think the garage is a better idea, especially if you want to run a file server (for household backups). Ours is the same jabblo, we didn't upgrade. I'd be interested to see what a cat 1 box is, considering the 2 is pretty much the standard! Perhaps they refer to having no CTC as the cat 1 (as basic config doesn't require one). Our documents kept mentioning Lakeside pack too, so I dug further and got the rest of the info CDandRB have built: Victory 1500 (Boardwalk) in Devonia Park, Pakenham. Slab 27/7, Frame 6/8, Roof 19/8, Brick 30/8, Plaster 13/9, Fix 24/9, Paint 11/10, Tiles 15/10, E/P Fit offs: 18/10, Carpet 20/10. Blinds/Driveway 30/10. QA 8/11. PCI 22/11. Settled 1/12 Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32394 Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 9Jul 11, 2010 7:11 pm I live in a solely FTTH estate in Epping, Victoria. I saw your thread and was wondering - do you have a choice of provider for phone/internet in Lakeside? Just curious.... Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 10Jul 11, 2010 7:25 pm For novices, and those in the same boat I'm in... Is there anywhere I can read up on what it is your talking about? I honestly haven't a clue Dear J.K. Rowling, Your books are entirely unrealistic. I mean, a ginger kid with two friends? Sincerely, Anonymous Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 11Jul 12, 2010 9:12 am oztish I live in a solely FTTH estate in Epping, Victoria. I saw your thread and was wondering - do you have a choice of provider for phone/internet in Lakeside? Just curious.... We have no providers as of yet I have heard that it will be an 'open' network so any provider can jump in!! Currently occupied homes are having the fibre pushed from the pit through the conduit to the outside cabinet - and is only for free to air tv access at the moment. We will hopefully have a list of providers soon. I just hope it is as open as they are claiming and we have a good choice!!! Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 12Jul 12, 2010 9:28 am The Little Misses For novices, and those in the same boat I'm in... Is there anywhere I can read up on what it is your talking about? I honestly haven't a clue We're talking about the fibre network which is being installed in our community. This replaces the need for a TV antenna, satellite dish, phone lines and pay tv/internet "cable". The first post explains the components of what's required to connect your house. Is there anything you would like to know about specifically? Just ask and we will share what we know. CDandRB have built: Victory 1500 (Boardwalk) in Devonia Park, Pakenham. Slab 27/7, Frame 6/8, Roof 19/8, Brick 30/8, Plaster 13/9, Fix 24/9, Paint 11/10, Tiles 15/10, E/P Fit offs: 18/10, Carpet 20/10. Blinds/Driveway 30/10. QA 8/11. PCI 22/11. Settled 1/12 Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32394 Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 13Jul 27, 2010 6:51 pm Got this link from the Whirlpool forum: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/221084,internode-brings-broadband-to-more-housing-estates.aspx Also, my fibre was activated today, so I switched from antenna to fibre The picture looks the same as antenna, but what I did notice was the signal strength is about half of what I was getting through the antenna. As long as the picture/sound does not cut out I am happy, and so far so good. Now for Internode to connect me Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 14Jul 28, 2010 3:45 pm That's very interesting Zamma! You're the fibre pioneer lol The signal strength thing is of concern, I'd assume the quality is down a fair bit too. I know that OneHD will show artifacts if the quality is below 60-odd on my TV. Do you have a booster in your hub, or just the standard 4 x splitter? Go internode! !! CDandRB have built: Victory 1500 (Boardwalk) in Devonia Park, Pakenham. Slab 27/7, Frame 6/8, Roof 19/8, Brick 30/8, Plaster 13/9, Fix 24/9, Paint 11/10, Tiles 15/10, E/P Fit offs: 18/10, Carpet 20/10. Blinds/Driveway 30/10. QA 8/11. PCI 22/11. Settled 1/12 Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32394 Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 15Jul 28, 2010 4:14 pm I'm soon to start building in a Telstra velocity network suburb here in perth. There is a covanent in my estate that you can't have any aerials on your roof visible, so I have to have fibre connection. Should be interesting, haven't sat down with the recommended installer yet (intelligent homes) to see what they are going to slug me yet. I fear it wont be cheap..... Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 16Jul 28, 2010 6:54 pm cdandrb That's very interesting Zamma! You're the fibre pioneer lol The signal strength thing is of concern, I'd assume the quality is down a fair bit too. I know that OneHD will show artifacts if the quality is below 60-odd on my TV. Do you have a booster in your hub, or just the standard 4 x splitter? Go internode! !! Even though the signal strength is low it is a steady picture - by that I mean we had times with the aerial where sound would drop out, but have not experienced that yet with fibre. It has only been 24hr though!!! I have a starserve video distribution unit which distributes the signal to the points, the aerial was running through that before I got the fibre. I am happy with Internode. Apparently they are waiting for an Interconnect and then the data services from them can begin Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 17Jul 28, 2010 8:53 pm Huggy_B I'm soon to start building in a Telstra velocity network suburb here in perth. There is a covanent in my estate that you can't have any aerials on your roof visible, so I have to have fibre connection. Should be interesting, haven't sat down with the recommended installer yet (intelligent homes) to see what they are going to slug me yet. I fear it wont be cheap..... It won't be too bad, and if you go the step up - you can turn your home into a very nice data/phone/tv setup Something around the 3K mark is quite normal.. (that's conduit/ctc/hub/installation). Let us know how you travel, Velocity will be quite good if you're prepared to bundle. Telstra are actually quite competative if you get tv, phone and net through them.. plus that t-box is quite a nice deal. CDandRB have built: Victory 1500 (Boardwalk) in Devonia Park, Pakenham. Slab 27/7, Frame 6/8, Roof 19/8, Brick 30/8, Plaster 13/9, Fix 24/9, Paint 11/10, Tiles 15/10, E/P Fit offs: 18/10, Carpet 20/10. Blinds/Driveway 30/10. QA 8/11. PCI 22/11. Settled 1/12 Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32394 Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 18Jul 28, 2010 9:35 pm cdandrb Huggy_B I'm soon to start building in a Telstra velocity network suburb here in perth. There is a covanent in my estate that you can't have any aerials on your roof visible, so I have to have fibre connection. Should be interesting, haven't sat down with the recommended installer yet (intelligent homes) to see what they are going to slug me yet. I fear it wont be cheap..... It won't be too bad, and if you go the step up - you can turn your home into a very nice data/phone/tv setup Something around the 3K mark is quite normal.. (that's conduit/ctc/hub/installation). Let us know how you travel, Velocity will be quite good if you're prepared to bundle. Telstra are actually quite competative if you get tv, phone and net through them.. plus that t-box is quite a nice deal. I hope they are competitive cos I have no choice but to use them for everything. Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 19Aug 04, 2010 12:06 pm Update, still waiting for Internode, but hopefully any day now!!!! Also, with the FTA tv signal, we have started to experience loss/weak signal which causes loss of picture. Has anyone else experienced this?? I have contacted the Fujitsu helpdesk on the OPENetworks website (http://www.openetworks.com.au/FTTH/Assistance/default.aspx). A guy called me back and I explained the situation to him...hopefully they will check it out. So if anyone else has the same issue I suppose best to let them know!! Re: Lakeside Fibre To The Home (FTTP/FTTH) Discussion Thread 20Aug 04, 2010 2:53 pm That's dissapointing. I wonder what the issues are with the signal, perhaps they've underestimated the initial boost to the area? Keep us posted zamma! CDandRB have built: Victory 1500 (Boardwalk) in Devonia Park, Pakenham. 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