May 20, 2010 6:33 pm
We are looking at selling our house in the coming months, and the dream is to buy a block on the Hills, preferably Roleystone, and build a reasonable sized house.
But some people told us that the site works are always very expensive (+septic) there which make me think that it could not be worth it to build??
We would buy a block quite flat with few trees, and they say power and water are available on lots of blocks there.
So we would welcome some advices, this is the first time we consider building and it all sound very exciting!
Thanks in advance
Re: Build or not in Perth Hills??2
May 20, 2010 8:40 pm
Hi Alexgreen & welcome to H1,
I know nothing about site costs in the Perth hills but there is a fellow H1er that is building in the hills that might be able to shed some light on the site costs etc.
This is their thread details;
Good luck with it all
Cooper's Build - Perth NOR
Prelim- mid Sept 2009, Pre Start 2 Feb, Siteworks- 21 April 2010, Slab- 10 May, Deliveries- all by 26 May
Bricking- 28 May - 26 June, Roof complete 5 Aug, Float 28 Aug, Lock up 16 Sept
Cabinets 1 Oct, Tiling 22 Oct, PCI 18 Nov, KEYS 3 Dec 2010
MOVED IN 17 DEC 2010
Re: Build or not in Perth Hills??3
May 20, 2010 9:25 pm
Hello Alexgreen, I would diffenately have a soil test of the block and receive Engineer costings on you House plan, before offering and buying the block of choice in the Perth hills. I have heard some site works can be over 60K in Kalamunda. I never enquired on my site works for Forrestfield. I thought as it was a new standard flat, sandy, rectangle block of 368 sqm, the cost would be reasonable. My site works came in over $23k not $6.5k, the Salesman from the building company quoted me on my first building contract. I since spoken to other builders, and the real estate agent has said later, that site works was estimated from 15k. Never assume, always ask and question everything. No one will tell you negative items about the land or house purchase. Then it can be too late to back out.
Re: Build or not in Perth Hills??4
May 21, 2010 9:36 pm
Thanks to you both! Wow What a big price difference!! We will for sure have to be happy with every soil reports before buying...
I'll try to ask the ones building up there. It makes a big difference in the final cost
Re: Build or not in Perth Hills??5
May 21, 2010 10:42 pm
The builder also thought my house would sink in the clay soil. I had extra reinforced brickwork throughout the house and extra steel rods placed along inside the house concrete slab, which added to the cost of my amazing house build.
Re: Build or not in Perth Hills??6
May 21, 2010 11:27 pm
Beautiful area Rolleystone just make sure you know what to expect.
We are building in the hills - soil report came back showing some rock refusal (coffee rock) and small traces of clay requiring C2 type footing with 100mm slab on 600mm sand pad, this came back with over $30K as PS (provisionary sum), additional rock breaking allowance PS $10K, storm water piped around perimeter of house and then into interconnected soakwells, H2 treated pine for both termites and European borer, etc etc - total site works >$60K - this does not include septic as we are on deep sewage, no retaining walls, no temp fences, no allowance for protection of overhead aerials.
Definitelly get an engineering report before deciding but you might be lucky to get a very good spot.
Preliminary agreement 23/11 Contract 22/03 Prestart 06/04 - finalised on 30/04 Unconditional approval 10/05 Demolition 05/07
Slab 26/08 Brickwork 13/09-06/10 Roof frame started 07/10
Re: Build or not in Perth Hills??8
May 22, 2010 6:02 pm
My family built twice in Roleystone and I would say don't expect to get lucky with site costs. There is rock everywhere up there and you often need to do blasting just to put a septic tank in depending on how much rock there is. When you say "some blocks have water available" I'm guessing you're talking about ground water? this is really important if you're going to be relying on tank water, you need to sink a bore for your supply or else you'll spend a fortune bringing in water by truck. If you are going to be on tank water make sure you find out first if there is water underneath, you'll only pay your site costs once but water is something that will be an ongoing expense if you dont have it. You'll also have to factor in having a large tank to collect as much rainwater as possiible over winter. These things all add to the cost of setting up house.
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May 24, 2010 4:03 pm
hi there alex
well im a local roley girl!!
its certainly a quite place to live, no cops cos theres not really any crime. not a bad place to raise kids or just chill
there is a few areas you might be interested in. there is a new estate called 'the vale' it is right off holden road so its near the shops and primary school (although i hear it will merge with the high school in a year or two). large blocks some might have expensive site works but there might be a few of interest.
the other spot is chevin woods. this is close to the high school. im pretty sure you could get a flat block in there. (lol just had a bandicoot run past the window) im pretty sure both of these are on mains water.
the other spot and im not sure what its called will have the largest blocks. its futher out of town (youll need to drive to shops etc but only a few mins) is off irymple road has lovely views but id say the site works might be abit more as most of the block if not all are sloping. and not sure but might be rainwater.
it is a lovely place to live as long as you dont mind driving. i wouldnt let people put you off.
if you go to the roleystone shops and go to fidock and co - ask for james baylee (he has grown up here so he might be able to help with random blocks for sale)
hope that helps. let me know how you go!
When times get tough build a house...Our second build
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May 30, 2010 8:03 pm
Thanks a lot Sharky, very uplifting! Sorry I took a few days to respond, didn't check the website for a while... We were in Roleystone today and had an other drive around. All the family love the area! We saw the Vale, and the blocks near the high school too. They look great.
We'll see in a few month when we will sell our house how much we get and go from there I think!
I may message you if I have a question about the area, if it is ok
All the best for your building!