Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Have you seen steel beams been joined like this? (Updated) 21Oct 15, 2007 9:43 pm It will be partly to stop rust and partly to stop the inspector thinking - holy cow what's this rusty thing doing here.
Personaly - it does not look particularly structural to me - but I'm not an expert in these areas. Steve Re: Have you seen steel beams been joined like this? (Updated) 22Oct 18, 2007 1:17 pm ok got a couple of questions (can't really see from the pictures) but my first is why put a steel beam in if it's not supporting a lot of weight, you would normally just use a timber beam, because you also state that it will be support by a brickwork.....secondly if it's to be supported by brickwork why isn't the brickwork in place yet? (Normally loadbearing items are placed in first??)
Lastly as one of the other posters has already pointed out (forgotting previous asked questions) i would expect to see a fish plate weld across there (flat plate welded across). But yes those sorts of welds are used in steel work just depending which way forces are being applied. As for the painting....from the look of it add on piece it was a bit worn...if the paint was ok, i would suggest they have done it to try and hide it from the building inspector. cheers stewy Re: Have you seen steel beams been joined like this? (Updated) 23Oct 18, 2007 1:43 pm stewy ok got a couple of questions (can't really see from the pictures) but my first is why put a steel beam in if it's not supporting a lot of weight, you would normally just use a timber beam, because you also state that it will be support by a brickwork..... This is a structure engineering question which I can't answer. All I know is when I checked the "roof truss" diagram provided by the frames company, there's indeed a steel beam been specified in that location. I think as there's only one brick post under the beam on that side, without the beam, regardless of whether it's timber of steel, one brick post won't be able to support so many frames... stewy secondly if it's to be supported by brickwork why isn't the brickwork in place yet? (Normally loadbearing items are placed in first??) Don't know, as the frames get installed first, then the brick, may be doing it this way saves the frames guy from coming back again? Currently there's a few timber posts temporarily supporting the frames and steel beam. stewy Lastly as one of the other posters has already pointed out (forgotting previous asked questions) i would expect to see a fish plate weld across there (flat plate welded across). But yes those sorts of welds are used in steel work just depending which way forces are being applied. As for the painting....from the look of it add on piece it was a bit worn...if the paint was ok, i would suggest they have done it to try and hide it from the building inspector. cheers stewy Personally I would like our inspector to say it's not right, and our builder will have to pull it down and put in a proper onen. But from the other end, I am also concern how this would delay my schedule, so... don't know... Re: Have you seen steel beams been joined like this? (Updated) 24Oct 19, 2007 7:54 am ahuang This is a structure engineering question which I can't answer. All I know is when I checked the "roof truss" diagram provided by the frames company, there's indeed a steel beam been specified in that location. if that is the case then, it will be required, and a join was probably not considered when they spec'd it out. ahuang I think as there's only one brick post under the beam on that side, without the beam, regardless of whether it's timber of steel, one brick post won't be able to support so many frames... check your construction drawing if it's load bearing there should be a detail/section or noted showing said connection ahuang Don't know, as the frames get installed first, then the brick, may be doing it this way saves the frames guy from coming back again? Currently there's a few timber posts temporarily supporting the frames and steel beam. Is this the only brickwork to the property? i.e. slab on ground?? If so maybe they are trying to cut cost by only getting tradies out once only.....that not un normal but it's not the correct way to do it either. ahuang Personally I would like our inspector to say it's not right, and our builder will have to pull it down and put in a proper onen. But from the other end, I am also concern how this would delay my schedule, so... don't know... i wouldn't think it would delay your schedule.....it looks to be a stand C channel which is normally always in stock, and shouldn't take to long to replace. IMO i would get it check out because i don't think to many engineers would sign of a beam connection like that supporting downward forces. Btw i am no engineer only a concrete drafter Cheers stewy if l cannot get a sandblaster would a sander with sandpaper be better then a wire brush 4 7337 You have mandatory building inspections and privately engaged building inspections. The difference between the two comes down to inspecting the building so it's safe and… 3 18058 Hi I am wanting some opinions about the build of a steel shed I am going to get one about 4.5 x 2.5 m steel shed and the height will be about 2.3-2.4m high The one I am… 0 14435 |