Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12762Jun 24, 2016 5:45 pm Verdelho5T Ref exposed Rio. We also had this problem. After much dispute and problems with Beechwood acknowledging it could be a problem down the track the following were the initial agreement we had with Beechwood to remediate the problem. 1/The entire slab edge around the whole slab was dug back to expose the slab. 2/The slab edge was then pressure cleaned to remove dirt. 3/An engineer inspected the slab to give his recommendations on repair measures. Once the slab edge was exposed and cleaned the problem with the rio exposure was worse than originally thought. Upon the engineer(Beechwood contracted engineer) inspecting the slab he wrote up a report and this was forwarded to Beechwood, who once again knew better and wanted to go a different path. Eventually the engineer won out and his remedial actions were implemented. This involved all exposed rio being cut back and treated with engineer approved product and then the entire slab was dowelled at 300mm spacings and a 50mm edge of approved grout?(dont have correct material term handy but is approved product for covering rio treated for exposure to prevent concrete cancer) was placed around the entire slab edge. Once this was all complete the engineer reinspected and signed a completion certificate. The whole process from discovery of rio to completion of work was around 6 weeks, with one week of this being work carried out the preceding 5 weeks attempting to deal with beechwood and having the problem fixed. Supervisor was great it was the management of Beechwood who were the problem. This all delayed our driveway etc. I drop in rarely now but if wish to pm to discuss further will keep an eye out Won't say anything else as this is a fluffy forumn where people don't want their experience of building a new home spoilt. Pity about the people thinking of building who may like to know of Beechwood problems. Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12763Jun 24, 2016 6:12 pm arms38 Won't say anything else as this is a fluffy forumn where people don't want their experience of building a new home spoilt. Pity about the people thinking of building who may like to know of Beechwood problems. I was going to start with no offense, but i will not bother. If you see by some of my previous posts, i am not a fanboy who is afraid to post a negative comment, but i am sick of you putting sh!t of fellow posters each time you post because they don't agree/abide by your opinion and to be honest, i would not complain if you never came back. Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12764Jun 24, 2016 7:57 pm zoey93 our slab was poured on Tuesday... and our Frames will be delivered next week!! cant fault the customer service from BW, they have been great so far !! :) That's awesome Zoey93. We can say the same. So far can not fault anything. We only started onsite today and received communication from concrete supervisor and construction rep this arvo. Admittedly it's because we hit rock....and a lot of it....but still we are happy so far. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ 20/11/15 - Settled land 06/11/15 - Request 1st tender BH 21/04/16 - Colour Selections and Contracts Signed 31/05/16 - Commencement Letter 24/06.16 - Started work onsite - cut and benching begun Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12765Jun 25, 2016 12:04 am arms38 I, & Im sure many others, appreciate you sharing your experience, it's important to be completely informed when choosing a builder. Although there's a vast majority of us who are building with BH who are having an all round pleasant experience & have a well built home. Just because we're excited doesn't mean we're unaware of the negatives, of course it's only natural to want to share the more positive experiences. I honestly can't understand why you'd insinuate we're all a bunch of fools unable to make informed decisions. There's been plenty who have definitely voiced their unhappiness at BH at some point or other during their build. And so what if we choose to talk about paint & tile colours or "fluffy" talk as you say, it doesn't mean we're ignorant, we're just not having the same negative experience as you! Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12767Jun 25, 2016 3:20 pm All I can say is Lol! We are one big happy family here 😂 Deposit paid 09/02/14 Plans received 26/04/14 Land registered 01/08/2014 Settled on land 18/08/2014 Plans to council 20/08/2014 http://verdelhofourtwist.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12768Jun 27, 2016 8:49 pm I hope i dont offend anyone here. But arms, your a tool. Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12769Jun 27, 2016 8:52 pm Well this has been fun to read... Arms I feel sorry for you... Our First Home Eagles Nest Wadalba Central Coast NSW http://kellyandlorenzo.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12770Jun 27, 2016 8:56 pm For those of us who have been on here for 9 months and more, he has done nothing but share pics of a bad experience and put not only BH down. But also most of us on here too. It Just gets very old... Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12771Jun 27, 2016 9:38 pm In regards to our exposed rio problem....thanks arms for posting. I am interested to know how it was dealt with. I am waiting on a reply from Beechwood, because to my eye, it has simply been covered over. Our SS also told us that the bits of exposed rio that we could see where just scraps that had been thrown down into the drop edge beam, and it wasn't really a concern. But, of course, for us it is. If we don't worry about it now, we may find ourselves with a larger problem years down the track. BH have been good. I would certainly build with them again. Especially now that we know what we would have done differently. They have been helpful, as long as I have been pushing for information. At the end of the day, we are all using this forum to gain the knowledge of others so we can have the best experience, and product at the end of our builds!! Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12772Jun 28, 2016 6:16 am Verdelho5T In regards to our exposed rio problem....thanks arms for posting. I am interested to know how it was dealt with. I am waiting on a reply from Beechwood, because to my eye, it has simply been covered over. Our SS also told us that the bits of exposed rio that we could see where just scraps that had been thrown down into the drop edge beam, and it wasn't really a concern. But, of course, for us it is. If we don't worry about it now, we may find ourselves with a larger problem years down the track. BH have been good. I would certainly build with them again. Especially now that we know what we would have done differently. They have been helpful, as long as I have been pushing for information. At the end of the day, we are all using this forum to gain the knowledge of others so we can have the best experience, and product at the end of our builds!! Anyone could tell me, what is rio and where it was exposed? And what's wrong if it's exposed. Thank you Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12775Jun 28, 2016 7:31 am poppet82 It's the metal rods they use to strengthen and hold the slab together.. If exposed and rusts obviously jeopardizes the integrity of the job it's supposed to do. OMG, how they fixed if it's exposed? And what will happend if ppl don't know about this issue and just living the house few years time? Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12776Jun 28, 2016 7:56 am Verdello5t Normally rio clearance is a minimum of 50mm and in some areas more depending on soil type etc.. In home slabs it is normally due to improper clearance during formup of the slab and then movement during the actual pour and the concretor not checking and maintaining the clearance. I can almost guarantee you that until the edge of the slab is exposed and pressure cleaned you will not know the extent of the problem, we also had only around 4-5 spots that we could see, but once cleaned it was much worse than anyone thought. Problem is most people never become aware of the problem as most of the slab is back filled after formwork is removed thus hiding the problem. Beechwood will fight you on this but keep up the fight as it is a problem that can be costly down the track. If interested pm me and we can talk via email. For those asking the questions about what it is and what it can cause. It commonly leads to what is know as "concrete cancer", the exposed rio(or even just below the surface) is exposed to moisture which leads to rusting(concrete cover stops the egress of water) of the rio which expands as part of the process causing concrete spalling. Spalling is fracture and cracking of the concrete itself and besides the obvious rust stains can also lead to bulging of concrete and most home owners will notice it when tiles begin to lift and crack in exposed areas. Maybe they will never notice a problem but who wishes to take the chance. Google concrete cancer and see the power it has and the damage it can cause Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12777Jun 28, 2016 8:06 am Mr woody as previously stated if you don't like my posts ignore, after all it is a forum, and seeing from your posts you are such an experienced home builder and obviously a man of the world, I don't feel offended by your comments, just feel sorry for you that you are part of the fluffy forum who knows better and only wants to hear good things. Yes there are people on here who wish to hear the good and bad but others have stated that they want to enjoy their build and don't want to hear the bad things that do happen during builds(it spoils their experience), thus the ones who cry the loudest from the stands. It is a forum for people to hear both sides of the story, good and bad and yes i will mock those who are part of the beechwood fan club, but for those who want to hear the other side and become aware of what may happen please feel free to pm me. A number of people have and have been more that thankful for the heads up and help offered. Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12778Jun 28, 2016 8:14 am Arms as I have said before I honestly feel bad for what you have been through. It must of been awful and extremely stressing. However I think that at times you were bringing down the quality of our builds when in fact we all don't have things go wrong or bad workmanship. I believe that was the difference. We all want to hear the good and the bad as it is what helps us all make the decision to build or not to build. Fact of the matter is some areas have better quality trades than others which is extremely unfortunate. Glad it is all rectified for you now. Deposit paid 09/02/14 Plans received 26/04/14 Land registered 01/08/2014 Settled on land 18/08/2014 Plans to council 20/08/2014 http://verdelhofourtwist.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Who is building with Beechwood 12779Jun 28, 2016 9:22 am arms38 Verdello5t Normally rio clearance is a minimum of 50mm and in some areas more depending on soil type etc.. In home slabs it is normally due to improper clearance during formup of the slab and then movement during the actual pour and the concretor not checking and maintaining the clearance. I can almost guarantee you that until the edge of the slab is exposed and pressure cleaned you will not know the extent of the problem, we also had only around 4-5 spots that we could see, but once cleaned it was much worse than anyone thought. Problem is most people never become aware of the problem as most of the slab is back filled after formwork is removed thus hiding the problem. Beechwood will fight you on this but keep up the fight as it is a problem that can be costly down the track. If interested pm me and we can talk via email. For those asking the questions about what it is and what it can cause. It commonly leads to what is know as "concrete cancer", the exposed rio(or even just below the surface) is exposed to moisture which leads to rusting(concrete cover stops the egress of water) of the rio which expands as part of the process causing concrete spalling. Spalling is fracture and cracking of the concrete itself and besides the obvious rust stains can also lead to bulging of concrete and most home owners will notice it when tiles begin to lift and crack in exposed areas. Maybe they will never notice a problem but who wishes to take the chance. Google concrete cancer and see the power it has and the damage it can cause If going with the builder who using waffle pod slab, having same issues? 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