Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Feb 25, 2010 8:23 pm Hoping someone can help since all my contracts and paperwork are packed away in boxes.. We had handover on our house today and are moving in Saturday. We asked at handover when the appliances go in and he asked when we would like them. Of course we said Saturday but our SS said he needed at least 5 business days notice to organise the tradies so next Thursday is the soonest it can be done. So we won't have hot water, central heating, solar panel hookup or appliances until 6 days after we move in We mentioned it before we paid - even if we could just get the hot water in earlier - and our CSC said she would follow up the SS and see what they can do and get back to us. Haven't heard anything yet though. Is this standard procedure or is the SS just trying to cover up that he forgot to organise it at PCI last week? Is there anything in the contract that covers this? We are with PD lifestyle. Thanks Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 2Feb 25, 2010 8:39 pm I'd imagine that all the appliances and especially the solar panels and hot water all connected before you take the keys.. ---------------------------------------- Building the PD Lisbon 24 http://www.porterdavis.com.au/#homeviewer/lisbon/24 Blog of our progress. http://lisbon24.blogspot.com/ Homeone build thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28665 Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 3Feb 25, 2010 8:54 pm I didn't build with PD but know that a lot of the volume builders in Melbourne won't put the appliances in until the day of handover due to the likelihood of theft. This subject has come up on a lot of other threads and it appears to be common that you need to request them to be fitted on handover day at least a week or so prior to handover. I know my gas meter, hot water service and all the kitchen appliances were fitted on handover day. The company that fitted the ducted heating needed more than a weeks notice so I was without that for a week after I had moved in (was a cold week as it was Winter). Solar panels appear to be fitted as soon as your roof is done but it is no good if your hot water service is not connected. I hope for your sake that PD might be able to bring it forward but would be very surprised if they are any different to the other volume builders in Melbourne. Good luck and hope the shift goes ok!! Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 4Feb 25, 2010 9:46 pm gumboots We mentioned it before we paid - even if we could just get the hot water in earlier - and our CSC said she would follow up the SS and see what they can do and get back to us. Haven't heard anything yet though. What your SS said sounds standard for most builders (from what I heard). From personal experience when anyone at the builder say they will see what they can do you really need to be on their back so they will remember. Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 5Feb 25, 2010 10:04 pm Gumboots - We too had this issue in the middle of winter! Same story they needed 5 working days notice to have them installed. We just showered at my parents and used a microwave and electric frypan for cooking. It is do-able! 2nd build here we come in Whittlesea! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=92617 1st Build - Henley - Cooper in Doreen! (2009) https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17354 Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 6Feb 25, 2010 10:10 pm gumboots Hoping someone can help since all my contracts and paperwork are packed away in boxes.. We had handover on our house today and are moving in Saturday. We asked at handover when the appliances go in and he asked when we would like them. Of course we said Saturday but our SS said he needed at least 5 business days notice to organise the tradies so next Thursday is the soonest it can be done. So we won't have hot water, central heating, solar panel hookup or appliances until 6 days after we move in We mentioned it before we paid - even if we could just get the hot water in earlier - and our CSC said she would follow up the SS and see what they can do and get back to us. Haven't heard anything yet though. Is this standard procedure or is the SS just trying to cover up that he forgot to organise it at PCI last week? Is there anything in the contract that covers this? We are with PD lifestyle. Thanks This can't be right. How not fair!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to try not to want to move in to my place straight away PCI Done Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 7Feb 25, 2010 10:56 pm klscomps I didn't build with PD but know that a lot of the volume builders in Melbourne won't put the appliances in until the day of handover due to the likelihood of theft. This subject has come up on a lot of other threads and it appears to be common that you need to request them to be fitted on handover day at least a week or so prior to handover. That's just so sad that such precautions have become necessary. You'd think though that once handover day is getting close the builder would mention this to you and ask when you anticipate moving in. What happens about the Certificate of Occupancy? Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 8Feb 26, 2010 6:56 am It's correct. HOWEVER....your SS should have arranged this with you when the handover date was booked. Our SS booked handover and the date for appliance installation at the same time. Handover was on a Friday and they would normally have done the appliance fit-off on the following Monday, but it suited us to leave it till the Thursday so we could get our floorboards in before the stove and dishwasher were installed. We used the week in between to do carpet, alarm, TV antenna and driveway as well. We put up Redishades and moved some boxes and bags and small items into the garage. Then we moved in the following Friday with everything done. I'd say your SS forgot about the appliances until the day of handover. Not good enough. Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 9Feb 26, 2010 7:18 am How do you know you're going to accept handover on that day though? Dont you have things you still need to check are fixed properly from your PCI list? Do most people just accept the builders word that everything is fixed? Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 10Feb 26, 2010 7:50 am Ari How do you know you're going to accept handover on that day though? Dont you have things you still need to check are fixed properly from your PCI list? Do most people just accept the builders word that everything is fixed? You do a final walkthrough, of course. Nobody in their right mind would just accept a verbal assurance that PCI items have all been rectified. Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 11Feb 26, 2010 7:53 am Quote: What happens about the Certificate of Occupancy? My occupancy certificate was issued beforehand with a section stating permit conditions : All cooking appliances, hot water appliances and if applicable the rain water tank to be operational prior to occupation. All services to be connected prior to occupation. To be honest I would much rather do it this way than to have my house sit empty with the appliances in it and turn up moving in day to find they have been stolen overnight. Don't forget that once you have signed the paperwork and been given the keys, the builders insurance no longer covers the property. You need to make sure your own insurance covers you from handover day onwards. Even being covered by insurance is not going to be very pleasant if anything is stolen as nothing would get replaced on the day that you find them missing so therefore you are going to be without appliances etc. for probably longer than you would be if installation is delayed by a few days by the builder. A shame that your SS/CSC didn't check with you sooner about when you wanted things installed. Hope it all works out for you. Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 12Feb 26, 2010 5:22 pm Thanks everyone for your replies. I put a bit of pressure on today and managed to get everything brought forward to installation and connection on Tuesday. I think our SS did forget at PCI, and was doing a bit of arse covering in our conversation today, but Tuesday is good enough given the timeframes I think - nothing we can do about this not happening a week and a bit ago now after all. Ari - From our experience they work pretty hard to ensure handover will happen on the day nominated, with everyone being booked into to finish whatever needs to be done as a matter of priority. I think its fairly rare for a house not to be accepted on the planned handover date. We found a few ******* patch jobs and he got the painter out while we were picking up the keys to fix it up, which he did. Unfortunately though we were under some serious time pressure to get the house so if we hadn't have had it brought forward, it would have been over two weeks until either myself or my OH was available to stay home and let the tradies through. Couple this with the closest relatives being 2 hours away (4 hour round trip for a warm shower), us vacating the rental 5 days after handover and deadlines at work, it would have been a serious and drawn out issue. Hopefully though this is good warning for others building with PD - schedule it in at PCI! Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 13Feb 26, 2010 5:25 pm kek You do a final walkthrough, of course. Nobody in their right mind would just accept a verbal assurance that PCI items have all been rectified. Of course not. However I see it as a little bad to tell them you will be moving in on the handover date (which to me means you are verbally saying you will accept the house), have them organise the tradies to come that day to install everything and then turn up and reject the house. Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 15Feb 26, 2010 5:46 pm Ari oh...and I do know someone that was stupid enough not to check the builder had fixed the issues Were they in their right mind? They're generally pretty good - handover usually goes ahead with no dramas. It's always a tight schedule when you have to vacate rental premises, arrange flooring installation, concreters, or whatever, plus removalists or hire trucks... I remember it was a very stressful time. Luckily, it all went to plan. gumboots, I'm glad you've managed to move things forward. Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! Help! 16Feb 26, 2010 6:04 pm PD must be better at Handover than our builder than Right mind? Nope...dont think so. Apparently their slab and frame were so far out that the garage/entryhall wall was hanging in mid air a foot into the garage. Which reminds me....I haven't heard any more about this for a month..so I better ask tonight how it turned out. Re: Moving Sat -no hot water/heating/appliances til Thurs! 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