Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 21Mar 07, 2010 11:38 am More news - got more quotes: Silencer batts $1.4k Sono batts $2.2k We already had the R3 thermal batts quote of approx $1050. Area is approx 110 m2. What we want to achieve is to deaden some of the noise transfer from walking on timber floors upstaris. What do you think? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 22Mar 07, 2010 12:19 pm I saw acoustic barriers for $9 per m2 - search on eBay for "Sound Insulating /Acoustic Underlay for Timber Flooring". For 110 m2 it would be $990. If your quotes include labour the price seems to be ok. Have you checked these guys? http://www.acousticspace.com.au/acoustiflexgreen.html ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 23Mar 07, 2010 2:21 pm Oh, thanks for this! I think the eBay product might be the underlay that goes under the timber floors, which we can install ourselves after the handover (I'm sure we will!). At the moment, we are looking at installing those bulky batts in between the floors, which can only be done during building Mind you, my BH still wants it ... I tried to persuade him that the flooring underlay would be sufficient ... no luck Will probably go with the middle quote - if someone out there doesn't have a better suggestion - so speak now or be forever quiet (or however it goes ) !!! My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 24Mar 07, 2010 4:01 pm Wow.. You're going to get a double-proof! Very thorough ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 25Mar 07, 2010 8:25 pm Yeah, ideas (of upgrades) are always great ... actual implementation not necessarily so ... but I'm definitely toooooo loud for him walking on the floor ... ah well .... My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 26Mar 07, 2010 8:34 pm Hey Lex! I'd still go the between floors insulation as anything that'd muffle footsteps (especially heels) on timber floors has to be a good idea! For only a $1000 I think its a good thing (and insulation plus the underlay is twice as good) Never argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level & then beat you with experience - Dilbert View Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19733 Contract signed 14Sept Slab 30Sept Bricks laid 1Dec Lock up 26Feb Keys 10Jun Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 27Mar 10, 2010 3:24 pm Thanks, Mrs Rose! And more update for anyone interested in this. I am told that thermal batts perform the same as Silencer. The only difference is that thermal batts are thicker (155mm), while Silencer is thinner (90mm), therefore the fluff is more condensed. Still swinging both ways, especially now that I see the forest of wiring installed!!! Very worried about any impact on wiring, like pulling and stretching of cables which will occur during installation of the batts. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 28Mar 10, 2010 4:14 pm MrsRose Hey Lex! I'd still go the between floors insulation as anything that'd muffle footsteps (especially heels) on timber floors has to be a good idea! For only a $1000 I think its a good thing (and insulation plus the underlay is twice as good) Why would anyone wear heels at home, especially upstairs? In our household "shoes off" is an immediate event after "enter the house" ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 29Mar 10, 2010 5:04 pm I can relate to Mrs Rose's comment and can see that happening sometimes, maybe not in high heels but with other hard soles definitely ... Not to mention some "fine" guests that we ocassionally get And couple that with some noise sensitive hubbies BTW e, what's happening at your place?? Do you have the plaster yet !!??! My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 30Mar 10, 2010 5:11 pm ebyelyakov Why would anyone wear heels at home, especially upstairs? In our household "shoes off" is an immediate event after "enter the house" We have an upstairs lounge that will have an attached balcony/deck for entertaining that we probably won't enforce the shoes off policy (as there will be movement inside and outside). I also have a few petite friends and family that sound like they're elephants when walking around... I'm a bit noise sensitive also, so we've added insulation virtually everywhere Never argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level & then beat you with experience - Dilbert View Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19733 Contract signed 14Sept Slab 30Sept Bricks laid 1Dec Lock up 26Feb Keys 10Jun Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 31Mar 10, 2010 5:55 pm Quote: I am told that thermal batts perform the same as Silencer. I would agree that 'some do say that'. However, acoustic batts are better at attenuating sound than thermal batts. And thermal batts are better at retarding thermal variations than acoustic batts. Pay the extra $$ and get what you need. Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 32Mar 10, 2010 6:58 pm Lex I can relate to Mrs Rose's comment and can see that happening sometimes, maybe not in high heels but with other hard soles definitely ... Not to mention some "fine" guests that we ocassionally get And couple that with some noise sensitive hubbies BTW e, what's happening at your place?? Do you have the plaster yet !!??! Have no idea - the next visit is on Sat.. Found an invoice in the mail from the air-con guys (extra zones and other improvements) - according to it the air-con has been finished... ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 33Mar 10, 2010 8:50 pm rubber_noggin However, acoustic batts are better at attenuating sound than thermal batts. Yeah, the price difference is probably not worth my time here but still ... What annoys me is that I can't find proper technical manuals which go into such details, so I (ok, we) will be making the decision based on the "feel" ebyelyakov Have no idea - the next visit is on Sat.. Found an invoice in the mail from the air-con guys (extra zones and other improvements) - according to it the air-con has been finished... Opps, those guys are fast invoicing. So, any further news from the SS? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 34Mar 10, 2010 9:51 pm Hey Lex, we originally asked about whether this was a sensible option but had the advice (much like the others who've commented here) that the 'hole' that was the stairwell would negate any positives to having the insulation between the floors. Our builder apparently uses the "silent floor system" (http://www.infolink.com.au/n/Silent-floors-n755537) but this is more to do with minimising any "squeaky floor" type noises (I think) rather than any noises from the occupants of the house. At the end of the day neither of us is sensitive enough to noise (which will be mostly emitted by kids!) to have worried about it enough to push it further. ~ good luck with what you decide, cheers, J _______________________________________________________________ We're a knockdown | rebuild ~ Melb SE burbs Building modified version of the Fairhaven Glenaire Homeone thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28429 _______________________________________________________________ Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 36Mar 28, 2010 9:02 am With external wall insulation, builders usually exclude garage walls. But what if one of the garage walls is also an "internal" wall - does it get the insulation or not? For example, if there is a wall between your Formal Living and the Garage, does that wall get insulated? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 37Mar 28, 2010 9:57 am Well, I can't speak for everyone but we certainly did (as standard); I think it would seriously compromise the insulation's effectiveness if they didn't. As it is, if someone leaves just our internal garage door open for too long (in the middle of a Canberra winter) you can feel a wall of 'cold' roll into the house; I would hate to think how much cold would creep in if the whole wall was uninsulated! 'We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.' - Winston Churchill Re: Between-the-Floors Insulation 38Mar 28, 2010 11:50 am That's exactly right - I would expect any such "internal" wall to be treated as external, ie. to get it insulated. Hopefully the builder thinks the same way. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... 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