Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jul 18, 2007 12:31 pm Hello,
I have a tender presentation next week. I modified the floorplan based on what we told the builders. I started a simple site for the project. It's at http://www.teamit.com.au/home "Original Floor Plan" link shows the original plan and the "Modified Floor Plan" shows our proposed version. We made changes only to the ground floor as we have specific requirements (Dance Studio & Parents Room). Anyone got any suggestions on the modified floor plan? thanks.. - devank Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 2Jul 18, 2007 12:42 pm Devank,
I cant see how they would consider making these changes.... There are some major structural changes in there that will need to be completely re- engineered. Good luck though. I like the design changes! Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 3Jul 18, 2007 12:44 pm Is it possible to extend the width of the dance studio/lounge without extending the corresponding rooms upstairs? Wouldn't that be a supporting wall? Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 4Jul 18, 2007 12:45 pm exactly!! It could be done with hardiplank or similar but would still need to be re engineered for strength. Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 5Jul 18, 2007 1:33 pm Hi Devank,
Been away a few days and good to see you got something started! A few things: 1. The guys are right, if you extend downstair without changing upstair, the builder will need to do some major structure changes (Best opportunity to charge you lots of extra $...) One option is add a supporting beam in ground floor ceiling. But as your studio is about 6M long, it's going to be very very expensive for a long beam. Second option is, if the walls upstair was originally brick, they will replace it with timber to reduce the weight. Note that you will only get very little credit for that and it doesn't look good. The other one is do both. Might want to ask how much it cost to also extend upstair. It might be cheaper than installing a beam. Also note that as the bath is right on top and it's very expensive to touch anything in these wet areas, might want to consider swap Bed 4 with Bathroom, so that the size of bath remain the same, but both Bed 2 & 4 are now much bigger. 2. About the ground floor laundry room & powder room changes. Make sure you mention to them it's a "relocation" + minor modification and try to make the dimension as close to the original as possible. Otherwise they will only give you a small credit for deleting the original one, and then charge you a full price for adding a brand new laundry & powder room. Hope this helps... Cheers Allan http://building-our-first-house.blogspot.com/ Current stage: old house demolished, contract signed, fence ready, waiting for excavation to start... Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 6Jul 18, 2007 7:35 pm I think they are going to put a ‘supporting beam’. I’ll know when I go to the tender. I can’t really increase the upstairs as I already reached the max allowed size (60% of the land).
I don’t want to build a house if all our requirements are met! If the cost is too high then I may not be able to build at all ![]() - devank Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 7Jul 18, 2007 7:40 pm I hope your bracing yourself when they present the bill.
Perhaps take a pillow with you and place it such that you don't hurt yourself when you fall of the chair. ![]() Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 9Jul 23, 2007 5:48 pm Thanks for all the 'experienced' words from all of you!
T-day is tomorrow. I'm preparing myself to be disappointed (if I can't afford to build). I have to start somewhere right? ![]() I got the Preliminary Sketch form the builder. I updated my 'modified plan' section at http://www.teamit.com.au/home . They included almost everything I asked for. Only a door between the Garage & hallway and the Alfresco missing. - devank Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 10Jul 23, 2007 5:54 pm Hi devank,
Just a very minor change, you can actually move the laundry door a bit more to the right to gain some more space for the laundry. Also, whats's that big empty box between Bed 1, WIR and the stair? The smaller one in the WIR should be for the Air Con, but I don't quite understand about the big one outside WIR. Good luck with the presentation! Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 11Jul 23, 2007 6:48 pm devank,
you need to take the "." off the end of you link. It makes it not work! ![]() The prelim drawings look fantastic btw... Good Luck for tomorrow! Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 12Jul 23, 2007 11:54 pm Thanks for pointing out the mistake Matt. Glad someone else liked the design ![]() ![]() Just a very minor change, you can actually move the laundry door a bit more to the right to gain some more space for the laundry. You mean the internal door to the laundry right? That's a good idea. Otherwise that long walk space is wasted! ![]() Also, whats's that big empty box between Bed 1, WIR and the stair? I think it's just a decorative spot! I was going to ask them about it and if possible make some good use out of it. At least few shelves so that all the bed stuff can be stacked! How did you go with tender 13Jul 24, 2007 2:25 pm Devank,
Just wondering, how did u go with tender? what was the quote? ta DM Re: How did you go with tender 14Jul 24, 2007 3:47 pm ![]() Devank, Just wondering, how did u go with tender? what was the quote? ta DM If we still couldn't hear anything from him tonight, might need to look for him in one of the hospital. Poor guy, must be a huge shock to him. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 15Jul 24, 2007 5:30 pm I told him to take a pillow.
Didn't listen. ![]() Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 16Jul 24, 2007 10:57 pm Yeah.... yeah... have a laugh at my expense! I wasn’t laughing when I left the meeting room after 4 hours ![]() So far, it came to $316.5K. Alfresco is dropped due to council floor ratio. I should admit the presenter (Terry) was good.... but how is that going to help if he can't keep the price down? Here is the break down (more detailed on http://www.teamit.com.au/home then click on ‘Cost 24Jul07’). These are the major ones.. Basic site costs $14,095 Provisional site costs $7,000 Site costs due to site conditions $23,925 Vogue Fascade $14,000 Entertainment (Studio) area changes $11,650 Laundry / Study area changes $10,925 Ground bedroom $11,955 Air conditioning $14,100 Basix $10,000 Following costs are not even included (Major ones)! Demolition Driveway & Paving Retaining wall Fencing Basic flooring Lighting Stormwater drainage (killer!) Landscaping May be I should wake up a bit later and keep on dreaming ![]() - devank Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 17Jul 25, 2007 6:27 am hi devank,
I wonder if it would be cheaper to take your modified design and see what someone like Nu-Era homes would build it for? They are a custom builder but aim to be economical when it comes to cost. (There are some designs on their website, but the majority of their business is custom designs) http://www.nuerahomes.com.au/ Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 18Jul 25, 2007 7:55 am Is the $10 000 for BASIX for compliance or for the certificate? if its the certificate you can do it yourself online over a weekend - I can't remember who did it on this forum but I remember reading someone did ....
Just a thought and a possible save of money ... Fiona Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 19Jul 25, 2007 8:05 am ![]() hi devank, I wonder if it would be cheaper to take your modified design and see what someone like Nu-Era homes would build it for? They are a custom builder but aim to be economical when it comes to cost. (There are some designs on their website, but the majority of their business is custom designs) http://www.nuerahomes.com.au/ Don't let the draftsman know its in any way based off someone else's design ![]() Re: Proposed Floor plan - Any suggestions 20Jul 25, 2007 8:28 am The internal layout of the home is so different that you may be able to claim that the "important, essential or distinctive" parts of the home are different from the original design - thus avoiding copyright issues.
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