Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jul 09, 2007 7:09 pm Unfortunately we had problems with the quality of workmanship done by the brickies.Several window sills were replaced as was some large areas of the walls.
The bricks are Austral and the variation between the original batch and the replacements was quite extraordinary with the 2nd batch being several shades lighter.Why is that I wonder?Lack of or poor quality control perhaps. Anecdotal evidence would suggest that this is creating issues for others in Melbourne region especially with two story homes,i.e variation between first and second story . The solution proposed in our situation is to have the replacement lighter courses tinted using a process carried out by a firm with many years experience in what they do. They are Nawkaw Australia and the website is : http://www.nawkaw.com.au Our bricks have not been treated yet but I will let you know how things go once they are. http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1027sz4.jpg http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1025zn9.jpg http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1028qa7.jpg Re: Brick Tinting 2Jul 09, 2007 7:16 pm As my house is currently being bricked, you've got me really worried.
We have had the second batch of bricks delivered, only a few days apart, so I don't expect problems there, but the second storey is about a week away, so hopefully no issues, but will certainly keep an eye on it now that you've mentioned it. What bricks are you using from Austral range btw? Currently Building in Bayside (Brighton East) Re: Brick Tinting 4Jul 09, 2007 10:47 pm I'm no brick expert but I think I remember reading on one of the manufacturer sites about mixing the pallets so that any shade differences were evened out and spread. Being a replacement, I suppose that's not really practical (unless you want to start from scratch ![]() Ray Second Time 'Round Re: Brick Tinting 6Jul 11, 2007 12:06 pm I heard nawkaw is a really good product.
Once they tint the brick it will look really good. But i've never seen a finish product before, but my builder recommended it. The process is entirely manual, where a person tints every brick individually. Good luck with your bricks Re: Brick Tinting 8Jul 11, 2007 9:50 pm Grime,
Mate that is f**kin disgusting.... Why didn't the brickies just stop. A bit of due care and attention would have avoided that happening altogether... I doubt that is the same brick. They never vary that much in colour.... In regards to the tinting, I would be sceptical about that. How long will it last? What will it look like in 10 years when you are selling the house etc. Re: Brick Tinting 10Jul 11, 2007 10:10 pm Grime,
Another point what is going on under the window sill in the 1st and 2nd pics? The third pics shows the sill how it is supposed to be and the others are a little ????? It looks like they forgot to rake the brick away from the sill... Maybe its a new fashion? Anyone else seen this before? Re: Brick Tinting 11Jul 12, 2007 10:18 am ![]() Why didn't the brickies just stop. A bit of due care and attention would have avoided that happening altogether... Mate, I think your expectations are unreallistic, although perfectly reasonable. Hope that makes sense. I've recently met my brickies who have been working away on site for about a week now, and having spoken to them briefly, I've got to be honest with you - if they were given three different brick types they wouldn't even bother to stop and ask. Not trying to be mean to the blokes and I do hope they do a good job, but I wouldn't expect them to do anything outside of laying the bricks straight. Supervisor on the other hand, is totally responisble for this and wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't pick up on that. Currently Building in Bayside (Brighton East) Re: Brick Tinting 12Aug 24, 2007 8:29 am Well I'm afraid I am unable to provide much of an update at this time.
Our supervisor left the company just after our job was signed off on,so now all the issues are being managed by a more senior person. He thought the quote was too expensive ![]() Meanwhile the neighbours and tradies have been lining up to give their opinions on the bricks and the company that supplied the bricks. There must be somebody out there who has an encouraging thing to say about them ![]() Re: Brick Tinting 15Aug 24, 2007 12:40 pm Just got off the phone to our site supervisor. Looks like we risk the same thing happening to us. They build to eye level and then put up scaffolding and then get more bricks and build the rest. This is just a recipe for disaster and they shouldn't do this.
Not just this but we have paid for cream mortar and now there is a possibility of matching issues between the top and bottom half of the house. Sand is done like bricks ie first half now, second half later and the sand varies in colour so the mortar will vary in colour. Site Super says that we can expect to see a visible difference between top and bottom mortar for about 2 weeks. After 2 weeks of course, a knock down and rebuild becomes less likely. hmmmm... I feel like I am at teh mercy of a bunch of madmen. ![]() Re: Brick Tinting 16Aug 24, 2007 1:38 pm ![]() I feel like I am at teh mercy of a bunch of madmen. ![]() We all are! I have reverted to username - mattwalker Carlisle Homes - Grande 43 My building experience is here: http://www.ourgrandeplan.blogspot.com Re: Brick Tinting 18Aug 24, 2007 3:08 pm Well, seems bricks are a huge problem all round....
Long story ahead. We selected our bricks from Boral, not Austral who our builder uses. Boral said they didn't exist (even though they are on their website, then eventually figured out, oh yes they do, no problems, they would send them over (bricks made in WA, building in SA). They arrived a couple of days later and the brickies started. I noticed that not all the bricks had arrived. Boral told the builders that the rest would be there the next day. Builder found out however they had sent over all they had and we would have to wait 8 weeks for the rest! So basically we had enough to do the front and that was it, so we could pick new bricks altogether (not happening, we had our heart set on those bricks) wait 8 weeks and set the whole house back (they couldn't even put the roof on to protect the framework because we don't really have eaves) or pick new bricks just for the sides and back, and keep the ones we picked on the front. We didn't really want to be set back 8 weeks, so we decided we would go with the ones we had for the front as we had our heart totally set on them, and try to pick a brick close enough for the rest. We have rendered qoins so figured they wouldn't be bricked next to each other completley, so the difference might not be as noticeable. So we picked a new brick, which we were ok with, wasn't perfect, but better than 8 weeks watching the framework sit out in the wether. The next day we found out they had been discontinued. Our builder rang everywhere in the state looking for any type of cream brick, and was given the same story everywhere, no stock, making some at the moment but orders to fill before we know if there are any left, blah blah blah. NO CREAM BRICKS IN SA!!! So our options were a bit more limited from then. Get the front done in the original bricks (which they had already started anyway), and we would have to wait 8 weeks for the original bricks to come in for the rest of it. I was kind of happy at the idea of having our ogirinal bricks, but not the delay. Turned out Austral ended up having some in their yard that were a year old, no-one had bought, and were a similar colour and texture, and from WA aswell. They sent them up for us to look at. They ended up matching better than the ones that we had originally picked as replacements, so it worked out better. Not as well as having the original bricks the whole way round though!!! Brickies have just finished today, done a great job, and if I didn't tell anyone, they wouldn't even know from looking at a distance that the side bricks aren't the same as the front. Ofcourse I still know everytime I look at it, but I'm over it, it was better than waiting 8 weeks (even though I would have loved to have had the right bricks the whole way round.). Moral of the story, render, or don't use cream bricks. Apparently Australs are discontinuing a lot of their cream ones and bricking in chocolate and coffee colour bricks as they are in fashion interstate. Re: Brick Tinting 19Aug 26, 2007 2:23 pm ![]() And another The bricks come out of the kiln and cool on the truck(obviously at different rates) Could be all crap, but from our latest building experience, I'm inclined to believe ![]() Re: Brick Tinting 20Aug 26, 2007 4:57 pm Hi Spot
I know you have finished now and probably don't want to hear it but we went through Salisbury Bricks in S.A. and they had a few different cream bricks to choose from when we were there. really helpful owners. Helen I saw a blog post by housenerd and for a single level she estimated to cost around $24k installed for James Hardie cladding. That was for a few years ago though (I think 2019?) 3 5605
Cheers for that..
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