No good reason
I agree I hate the stuff.. Oops I think I mention that before
A waste of oil, at least they don't use freon anymore
Re: slabs 41Mar 23, 2010 8:36 pm No good reason I agree I hate the stuff.. Oops I think I mention that before A waste of oil, at least they don't use freon anymore Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: slabs 42Mar 23, 2010 8:54 pm we are on a Pclass site 85mm thickness ,310mm height SL82 mesh strip footing 800mmx600mm wonder if theirs enough since we went for fixed cost $10k or much does it really cost ?is it cheaper http://andy-riverton30-andy.blogspot.com/ Re: slabs 43Mar 23, 2010 8:59 pm onc_artisan No good reason I agree I hate the stuff.. Oops I think I mention that before A waste of oil, at least they don't use freon anymore Is it a way for them to save money? To think takeaway joints still use this stuff, you see it everywhere and people think it's acceptable. All our lights were packed with this horrible stuff! Re: slabs 44Mar 23, 2010 9:21 pm maybe they think the slab will last as long as the styro Oxford 22 @ Stage12a Point Cook Site Cut : 05/03/2010 Slab Pour : 24/03/2010 Frame Inspected : 06/04/2010 Pre-plaster Inspection: 22/04/2010 PCI: 16/07/2010 Final Inspection: 30/07/2010 Landscaping: who knows??? MyHomeoneThread Our Oxford22 Blog Re: slabs 45Mar 23, 2010 10:28 pm Some even use large fat plastic recycled bottles Yeah, it saves on the cost of concrete. Apparently, those slabs are good - ?!?!?!, or so the literature says. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: slabs 46Mar 23, 2010 11:26 pm Draco76 - I'm no expert but from looking at your photo's I seem to can't see any crack control bars at the re-entrant corners, is it shown on your slab plan (normally three lines drawn diagonally at some specific corners)? My slab is also a waffle and there are alot of houses built this way, so if it's no good than there's going to be alot of unhappy people. Re: slabs 47Mar 24, 2010 7:44 am Agree with Polo, but have to say that the pictures are not showing the whole slab, so maybe the internal corners are not even captured on those 2 pics above. Also, the overlap of the mesh seems untidy. They should always lap by 1 full square and the bars on the 2 overlapped fabrics should align, and not being moved by any distance. Although, in my "expert" opinion , this is not that critical. Not sure, but the first pic to me looks like it's not finished yet, I guess it's because the top surface is not horizontal - or is it just the picture? Have all the pieces been tied already? Do you have more pics? Have you checked all around to see that none of the bars are closer than 4-5cm to the external timbers? And similar for the mesh at internal step-down areas ... Are all the bars put in, like it's shown on the plans? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: slabs 48Mar 27, 2010 8:38 am This is my ready reckoner to our site which is due to be poured next week no piers but edge beams . Shouldnt their be piers if its a P class site.? Site classification -"P class site due to fill House size -29.47 Sq or 273.81 sqm Location -Sandarra Wall construction -Brick Veneer & tiled roof 2590 wall height Cut & fill -Cut & fill required footing details -Type 1 modified Retaining wall -none Drainage requirements -Agri drain required along base of cut Special requirement -Termite barrier Reinforcement -Slab fabric Sl 82,Internal rib N12btm,External Rib 3L12,edge beams cost $10311 plus $2162 temp fencing ,crushed rock etc Re: slabs 50Mar 27, 2010 10:27 am Far out that is a good price, very good I'd say. There is about 6600 of conc and 2000 of steel 100 of plastic 250 of chairs total 8950 plus tie wire, time for set out and time for placement. I fear they have missed something or they will charge you for placement as an extra. Drainage is to stop washouts from occurring. Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: slabs 51Mar 27, 2010 1:44 pm I would say so myself going by what people were paying (see forum on slab price or site cost ) . we went with fixed site costs at the time of signing the contract and paid the $10K ,if the site was classed as a M we would have lost out, but the site was classed as a P . I still think Piers should have gone in instead of edge beams ! can someone tell me otherwise please. Re: slabs 52Mar 27, 2010 1:54 pm Andy - What's the engineer slab plan say?? If you don't have one then request for it. Re: slabs 53Mar 27, 2010 1:55 pm Is the site level and the surrounding topographically(new word) flat? Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: slabs 54Mar 28, 2010 8:04 am The engineering slab plan or footing layout plan as it says only mentions how the edge beams are to be laid out ,crack control bars nothing on piers.It mentions in the report that a "preliminary waffle raft design is recommended for this site " I might contact the building surveyors/civil engineer directly if I can . Re: slabs 55Mar 28, 2010 8:18 am onc_artisan Is the site level and the surrounding topographically(new word) flat? Pretty much onc, i don't think there is any lots in sandarra that have over 1-maybe 1.5m of fall on them along their long edge. To andy, Great to hear your making some progress at least. Really depends on the eng specs, remember its his arse and his companies liability insurance that will get hammered if its not up standard. On our prelim design we only had piers inserted because one edge of our house is within 3m of an easement. And as such they have to account for the situation where if the whole easement was excavated the slab wouldn't fall and slide towards it. That said it also depends on how deep the fill is on your block, we're in the over 600mm category and so we're expecting some pretty nasty increases over and above the 'fixed' price site costs. To explain that comment they have maximum allowances of fill and fall within the 'fixed price site costs' once your lot (like ours) exceeds these you get to pay for everything extra. So for us it could be craploads of piers or edge beams. Will have to see what the engineer comes back with. Either at or before settlement you should have recieved an updated eng plan that would have shown the location of the crossovers as well as had shading to indicate if any fill was present and whether it was > 300mm or >600mm. Our Build - Places Fairhaven 23+ - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28045 Our Landscaping - Belial's Backyard - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45375 Re: slabs 57Mar 30, 2010 5:02 pm Natural compaction takes 8 years.. So if a subdivision is 8 years in the making no piering is necessary... FWIW. Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: slabs 58Mar 30, 2010 9:45 pm onc_artisan Natural compaction takes 8 years.. So if a subdivision is 8 years in the making no piering is necessary... FWIW. What about unnatural compaction? This has been onsite for us and been around the estate since we signed back in august, along with a number of other compactor rollers. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ flickrhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/belial669/4446650550/ I'd think that they'd employ the same level of mechanical compaction to all the sites with fill across the estate. I suppose i'm asking, is mechanical compaction sufficient ? Our Build - Places Fairhaven 23+ - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28045 Our Landscaping - Belial's Backyard - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45375 Re: slabs 59Mar 31, 2010 1:13 am Without know when and by how much... I 'd say yes but then I am not an eng' so wouldn't really have a clue... But there is someone here that would.... time for an enterance... ... oh what not here Where you are coming from is where you are going to... Re: slabs 60Mar 31, 2010 2:36 pm andy checked out why piers are not included and the builder says because the fill is well compacted no need for piers .Hope they know what they are doing. Slab not poured as yet ,its looking like next week. Hi andy Am I missing something or are you really saying that you will have no piers whatsoever under the floating slab? You also mentioned "edge beams". Do you have a slab plan or any plan related to the slab? Or a clarification from the contract about edge beams? 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