Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Oct 16, 2009 6:44 pm Hi Guys,
Just a simple question ... What would you choose between NBG or Burbank, considering all factors includings the plans, cost and inclusions .. The plan I chose from Burbank is Ascent 2500 which is 7 star energy rated home, cost is 1,58,900, but just standard inclusions, not including carpet, tiles and site cost. The Plan I chose from NGB is Blaxland 20E which is 5 star energy rated home, cost is 1,75,900 including every standard inclusions including october special inclusions which include alarms, spa bath, 900 cooktop, colorbond tiles etc etc. What would be your best option. Just to have an idea which one to go with. Thanks alot. UPDATED PLAN NGB WITH BIGGER FAMILY http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/aquarian_59/NGBupdated.jpg DISCARD THE TOTAL AREA. THIS WILL INCREASE DUE TO BIGGER FAMILY. PLEASE POST YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT THIS ONE OR ANY SUGGESTIONS. Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 2Oct 16, 2009 6:55 pm I chose Burbank. Probably as the NBG sales guy was a little pushy and pretty cliche'd, but the Burbank one was just quiet and helpful. I'm guessing the Burbank Ascent 2500 is 25sq, and the NBG Blaxland 20E is 20 sq? We did like the "everything included" promotion the NBG was doing, but if you work it out they've just added the cost into the base price anyway, your not actually getting anything for 'free'. Same as if you just added it all on to the Burbank. Go with the Plan that you like, not the marketing you like Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 3Oct 16, 2009 8:07 pm I think you will find that NBG is a bit of a franchise, so h1's in the past have posted about their dissatisfaction with their builder who took the job from NBG head office. When they complained to NBG head office they were pretty much fobbed off. I can't remember too much bad about Burbank, so if I had to chose between the two, I'd go with Burbank. Go back to Burbank and show them what NBG have offered (ie inclusions) and see what they can do. You appear to have a few thousand saved by going with Burbank so they may turn out similar in end product anyways... good luck A thankful person is a happy person. [/color]My hobby design blog: http://aviewondesign.blogspot.com/ Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 4Oct 16, 2009 8:16 pm Annietom I think you will find that NBG is a bit of a franchise, so h1's in the past have posted about their dissatisfaction with their builder who took the job from NBG head office. When they complained to NBG head office they were pretty much fobbed off. I can't remember too much bad about Burbank, so if I had to chose between the two, I'd go with Burbank. Go back to Burbank and show them what NBG have offered (ie inclusions) and see what they can do. You appear to have a few thousand saved by going with Burbank so they may turn out similar in end product anyways... good luck Ya, Thats true Annietom .... I liked the quality of Burbank much better than NBG. Though NBG is offering exceptional inclusions, I have to pay for them in Burbank ... But then It does matter about quality and reputation ... Moreover as ibfragalot99 said ... burbank home is bigger than burbank one ... i.e NBG is only 178m2 living while burbank one is 196m2 living ... More sustanable in energy .... What do you recommend. Should I opt for burbank because they have good reputation and better quality or NBG because of their inclusions. But as I think that better home plan is important in choosing a home instead of inclusions, though they do make a difference in selling price but I think If plan is right and perfect, it can actually add a vale to your selling price. Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 5Oct 16, 2009 8:48 pm but upgrades (or inclusions) are a tricky one. Arguably ducted cooling will add value to your resale value, but how much? Does every buyer say "ok, this house is $200,000, but because it has ducted cooling I'd be prepared to pay $201,000"... you know what I mean. You have to think as a buyer to determine if you would pay more for a particular home. Most people look for: 1. Location 2. Size 3. quality 4. Inclusions And all of the above are subjective, that is, what one person values as an inclusion, another sees as a disadvantage. I remember not long ago walking through a home for sale that was an ex-display of Big M. The agent was quick to point out that the owner had spec'd the home as the display, hence it was top notch. But I looked around and noticed a laminate kitchen bench, no butler's pantry, small ensuite etc etc... So to me, this home was not as good as one with those extra rooms (or items) regardless of what the owner thought their home was worth. In any event, I think the larger the home the better (for re-sale purposes) so more sqm's the better. Get some upgrades with Burbank that you want, not necessarily what you think will make it more desirable to sell... and value your sanity a bit (people tend to pull their hair out sometimes during the build if the builder does not work well for them!) Does that all make sense??? A thankful person is a happy person. [/color]My hobby design blog: http://aviewondesign.blogspot.com/ Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 6Oct 16, 2009 8:59 pm Annietom but upgrades (or inclusions) are a tricky one. Arguably ducted cooling will add value to your resale value, but how much? Does every buyer say "ok, this house is $200,000, but because it has ducted cooling I'd be prepared to pay $201,000"... you know what I mean. You have to think as a buyer to determine if you would pay more for a particular home. Most people look for: 1. Location 2. Size 3. quality 4. Inclusions And all of the above are subjective, that is, what one person values as an inclusion, another sees as a disadvantage. I remember not long ago walking through a home for sale that was an ex-display of Big M. The agent was quick to point out that the owner had spec'd the home as the display, hence it was top notch. But I looked around and noticed a laminate kitchen bench, no butler's pantry, small ensuite etc etc... So to me, this home was not as good as one with those extra rooms (or items) regardless of what the owner thought their home was worth. In any event, I think the larger the home the better (for re-sale purposes) so more sqm's the better. Get some upgrades with Burbank that you want, not necessarily what you think will make it more desirable to sell... and value your sanity a bit (people tend to pull their hair out sometimes during the build if the builder does not work well for them!) Does that all make sense??? Thats the reason Annie. The upgrades I want from Burbank is heavily priced. If I need any upgrade they charge too much ...So eventually I will be paying way more than what I will be payingfor NBG. no carpets, no tiles, no ceaserstone benchtops etc etc with burbank but they are all standard in NBG ... Thats why I am so confused. Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 7Oct 16, 2009 9:22 pm If you want a definite answer you need to get the prices from Burbank for ALL the inclusions of NBG, even the ones you don't really want. Then compare apples with apples. I take it you're happy with both plans so it comes down to price. You need the facts to make a decision. Gravity. Its the law. At lock-up stage(lock-up stage) https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25438 Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 8Oct 16, 2009 9:47 pm trepidman If you want a definite answer you need to get the prices from Burbank for ALL the inclusions of NBG, even the ones you don't really want. Then compare apples with apples. I take it you're happy with both plans so it comes down to price. You need the facts to make a decision. Yes, I think that would be the best option trepidman .... Well just have a look on these two plans ... n' tell me what do you think ... Which one would you recommend be best suitable and good NBG - UPDATED PLAN WITH BIGGER FAMILY Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ TOTAL AREA WILL CHANGE DUE TO BIGGER FAMILY *************************************************** BURBANK Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 9Oct 16, 2009 9:58 pm what inclusions do you get with NBG that you don't get with Burbank? then how much do you think Burbank would want for those extra inclusions? then how much difference... that's how you should think it over... both plans appear similar to me! let us know A thankful person is a happy person. [/color]My hobby design blog: http://aviewondesign.blogspot.com/ Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 10Oct 16, 2009 10:04 pm I like the Burbank plan better. I don't like the detached living area at the front of the house on the NBG and the meals/family area is quite a bit smaller. This is where you'll spend most your time. Person in bedroom 4 will also have to walk across the living area to get to the bathroom also. The Burbank one just looks much more bigger and open. Compare the dimensions. Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 11Oct 16, 2009 10:35 pm ibfragalot99 I like the Burbank plan better. I don't like the detached living area at the front of the house on the NBG and the meals/family area is quite a bit smaller. This is where you'll spend most your time. Person in bedroom 4 will also have to walk across the living area to get to the bathroom also. The Burbank one just looks much more bigger and open. Compare the dimensions. I agree with all these comments, and I'm not a fan of the NBG ensuite either... A thankful person is a happy person. [/color]My hobby design blog: http://aviewondesign.blogspot.com/ Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 12Oct 16, 2009 10:41 pm Annietom ibfragalot99 I like the Burbank plan better. I don't like the detached living area at the front of the house on the NBG and the meals/family area is quite a bit smaller. This is where you'll spend most your time. Person in bedroom 4 will also have to walk across the living area to get to the bathroom also. The Burbank one just looks much more bigger and open. Compare the dimensions. I agree with all these comments, and I'm not a fan of the NBG ensuite either... Huh? How is the Burbank one bigger and more open? The main family and meals area (4.72 x 5.94) is only around a metre wider than the NBG family area only (4.7 x 4.7).... there is a seperate meals area. You'd struggle to fit a table and also a couch in the Burbank meals/living area.... how would you place the furniture? I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 13Oct 16, 2009 10:42 pm The house plans do help. Looks like the difference in size is the carport/garage. Burbank includes the garage as part of the 25 squares. Depending on where you're building the garage could be important. It might be in the covenant. More importantly it could be a safety issue, prevent a theft, depends on where you are. I don't mean to seem uncaring but you have to live in this house. If you're going to make it a home you have to own it. If YOU make the decision it will be YOUR home, regardless of who builds it. This is the perfect place to get all the information you need. The search function is your best friend. I find I stress more about making decisions than over the decisions I've made. And the more decisions and plans I make the less I worry. I think you will regret being swayed away from your instincts by popular opinion. Gravity. Its the law. At lock-up stage(lock-up stage) https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25438 Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 14Oct 16, 2009 10:48 pm Even though we are building with NBG, I like the floor plan of the Burbank better. ...NBG do have great inclusions, which was one of the reasons we chose them. However, you need a lot of patience when dealing with head office. Once all the paperwork has been completed I'm hoping things will be different. (we have a contract appointment next week) There are others on H1 that have built with NBG - Blessedpeople, Mundie Mansion, Abbey...all happy with their builds. We were in a similar position to you when deciding between NBG and DFH (originally JGK until their sales reps put me completely off their products due their poor attitudes) I made a list of all the inclusions/features that we wanted, then noted how much each inclusion cost and then which companies included which items. I found visualising it on paper made the decision easier. If we had gone with DFH we would've paid more money as they didn't offer extras that we wanted such as colourbond. In terms of build quality, it really depends on the company they assign to you. It is worth noting that many tradies work for all the big companies. The guy across the road from our block built with DFH and his neighbour with NBG. I knocked on their doors to ask about their builds. Both of them recommended their respective builders. Worth noting that the neighbour who built with DFH said that some of the same tradies worked on the other house being built by NBG. Go figure. Best of luck deciding. Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 15Oct 16, 2009 10:56 pm trepidman If YOU make the decision it will be YOUR home, regardless of who builds it. This is the perfect place to get all the information you need. The search function is your best friend. I find I stress more about making decisions than over the decisions I've made. And the more decisions and plans I make the less I worry. I think you will regret being swayed away from your instincts by popular opinion. That is the best advise here. ppssst.. but the burbank ones better Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 16Oct 16, 2009 11:22 pm joles Huh? How is the Burbank one bigger and more open? The main family and meals area (4.72 x 5.94) is only around a metre wider than the NBG family area only (4.7 x 4.7).... there is a seperate meals area. You'd struggle to fit a table and also a couch in the Burbank meals/living area.... how would you place the furniture? After conducting some super high tech analysis ( ) on both floor plans, the NBG is 1 metre square larger in the living area. Note this is m2 (like when you do flooring), not "squares" as in the house size. Basically both plans are same size. Make of that what you will!! Burbank Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ National Builders Group Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Yep - thinking of how your furniture (TV!) will go is important. Looking at both, I think it would be much easier to place furniture in the Burbank. The NBG does'nt have any long walls or corners to put your stuff in, without a door getting in the way. Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 17Oct 17, 2009 12:58 am The NBG floor-plan is weak. Can't even put a TV+Couch anywhere without breaking your neck every-time you watch it. Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 18Oct 17, 2009 7:06 am bindala Hi Guys, Just a simple question ... What would you choose between NBG or Burbank, considering all factors includings the plans, cost and inclusions .. The plan I chose from Burbank is Ascent 2500 which is 7 star energy rated home, cost is 1,58,900, but just standard inclusions, not including carpet, tiles and site cost. The Plan I chose from NGB is Blaxland 20E which is 5 star energy rated home, cost is 1,75,900 including every standard inclusions including october special inclusions which include alarms, spa bath, 900 cooktop, colorbond tiles etc etc. What would be your best option. Just to have an idea which one to go with. Thanks alot. Hope i don't confused you even more...we were looking at the Ascent 2500 from Burbank last month as an investment property but then feel that the Meals/Family area is a bit too small to accommodate a dining table as well as the TV. We have since sign up for the Burbank Generation 2600 with the Alfresco option and is bigger than the Ascent (in total m2) and still cheaper (base price) than the NGB. Not sure if it is bigger than the NGB house though. Cheers Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 19Oct 17, 2009 8:05 am ibfragalot99 joles Huh? How is the Burbank one bigger and more open? The main family and meals area (4.72 x 5.94) is only around a metre wider than the NBG family area only (4.7 x 4.7).... there is a seperate meals area. You'd struggle to fit a table and also a couch in the Burbank meals/living area.... how would you place the furniture? After conducting some super high tech analysis ( ) on both floor plans, the NBG is 1 metre square larger in the living area. Note this is m2 (like when you do flooring), not "squares" as in the house size. Basically both plans are same size. Make of that what you will!! Burbank Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ National Builders Group Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Yep - thinking of how your furniture (TV!) will go is important. Looking at both, I think it would be much easier to place furniture in the Burbank. The NBG does'nt have any long walls or corners to put your stuff in, without a door getting in the way. You forgot to add in Burbanks walk-in pantry, that will add quite a bit of space, whereas NBGs pantry is just a small built in Re: Which one would you choose ... NBG or Burbank ?? 20Oct 17, 2009 9:39 am joles Annietom ibfragalot99 I like the Burbank plan better. I don't like the detached living area at the front of the house on the NBG and the meals/family area is quite a bit smaller. This is where you'll spend most your time. Person in bedroom 4 will also have to walk across the living area to get to the bathroom also. The Burbank one just looks much more bigger and open. Compare the dimensions. I agree with all these comments, and I'm not a fan of the NBG ensuite either... Huh? How is the Burbank one bigger and more open? The main family and meals area (4.72 x 5.94) is only around a metre wider than the NBG family area only (4.7 x 4.7).... there is a seperate meals area. You'd struggle to fit a table and also a couch in the Burbank meals/living area.... how would you place the furniture? Well updated the NBG Plan now .... with a bigger family. What do you guys think. Hi All, Recently we have signed a contract with Burbank and we are not aware that they have just DORSET, SURREY, HAMPSHIRE, KENT, PILBARA and REDGUM bricks from PGH are… 0 3152 Black on light wood does look good. 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