Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jun 26, 2007 11:35 am Well, it's turned out that our builder PD done our electrical plan based on the old one. We had it changed as the original was way out of our budget.
Now, the question is... should I tell them? It’s sooo beautiful with all those free downlights and free floodlights, but we don't get the 2 powerpoints and 1 extra garage light. If I tell them, will they take all the "extra" and put down the missing stuffs? arghhh, the dilemma..... Re: should i tell them? should i???? 3Jun 26, 2007 12:11 pm extra lights?...what extra lights?...you didn't know anything about extra lights...
We are hoping the same thing happens with a certain door which has been removed from one place but not another!!! Hope they dont read this! Built Porter Davis "Dromana" 2007. Re: should i tell them? should i???? 6Jun 26, 2007 1:37 pm maybe my original question wasnt that clear. what i mean is, should i tell them about the stuff up and chase them to put in the missing power points?
I want the downlight but i also want the powerpoints. am i sounds too greedy? Re: should i tell them? should i???? 8Jun 26, 2007 1:43 pm so go with whichever way you are happier....if you draw attention to them using the wrong plan then they will take out all the extra stuff for sure....
So if you are happier with the extra lighting then just go with it! If you are getting heaps of extra downlights and outdoor lights and just losing two powerpoints and a garage light I know which way I'd go! And its worth a try later on with you supervisor or when the electrician is on site to get a couple of powerpoints! A couple of pineapples and a slab might just get what you wanted anyway..... Built Porter Davis "Dromana" 2007. Re: should i tell them? should i???? 9Jun 26, 2007 1:46 pm Ahh! Having re-read the original posting I see the problem.
If it's a case of only two missing powerpoints and one light, the cost shouldn't be that great if you organise to get it done yourself. If you ask PD to do it, then you'll alert them to the fact they used the wrong electrical plan. While they probably can't charge you for the their mistake - I doubt that they would come back and put extra things in. Unless: Are the missing items part of the same electrical plan that they should not have used, or are the missing items on on the revised plan? I doubt that you'll be able to have it both ways - no builder would be that generous. If you are ahead, I'd stay ahead and just get the extras done myself. Perry Re: should i tell them? should i???? 10Jun 26, 2007 1:50 pm if DOWNLIGHT$ > POWER POINT$
then KEEP DOWNLIGHTS and ARRANGE OWN POWER POINTS else CONTACT BUILDER and NOTIFY ABOUT STUFF UP end Re: should i tell them? should i???? 11Jun 26, 2007 2:19 pm You would hope (maybe not in this instance) but in general, you would hope that your supervisor is checking against his plan on a regular basis and is going to pick up the errors.
I would be making a point that the powerpoint is missing because really, they are going to notice the error at some point anyway. Our supervisor didn't pick up on something that should have been painted but in the end we decided that it looked better the way they had it, not on the plan. We did point it out at final inspection and our supervisor asked if we wanted to change it or not. PD should have credited us back $80 but it all became too hard so we didn't chase it. Good luck .. hope you get to keep them!! Amber http://www.ourdreamhouse.blogspot.com Re: should i tell them? should i???? 12Jun 26, 2007 2:26 pm It will cost them money to remove. If you tell them, they may cut a deal with you where you basicaly get them for cost. They won't want the hassel. Best to leave it to near the end though.
3xb Re: should i tell them? should i???? 13Jun 26, 2007 2:58 pm it's actually near the end. we just realised the stuffed up yesterday, during our last inspection before settlement with the site supervisor.
the missing parts are only addition power point. they are the normal powerpoint. yeah, I think i should make myself peace with it Re: should i tell them? should i???? 14Jun 26, 2007 5:16 pm What ever happens, do not pay them extra money to fix it because you didnt make the error. Nor do you pay anything extra if you do decide to keep it if the builder does spot it. Re: should i tell them? should i???? 16Jun 26, 2007 7:50 pm Getting extra downlights may not be the bargain you think. A report on 4 Corners last night showed how these lights really eat up power so cost a considerable amount more to run.
An extract from the show: JONATHAN HOLMES: According to energy expert Alan Pears, tens of thousands of Australians make the same mistake as Deborah Johnston. They think low voltage means low energy use and no one's told them otherwise. ALAN PEARS, ENERGY EFFICIENCY CONSULTANT: Well, that's a big fallacy. It's not the voltage that counts at all; it's the watts and so one of these halogens is 50 watts and hidden up in your ceiling this kilogram of steel and copper is using another 12 watts or so. So overall your halogen light, your low voltage halogen light is using 60 watts or more of electricity. JONATHAN HOLMES (to Alan Pears): And of course you tend to have it a lot more of them than you might the old fashioned lights. ALAN PEARS, ENERGY EFFICIENCY CONSULTANT: Absolutely. Because the halogen lamp has a very narrow beam you end up with a dozen of them in your room instead of maybe three ordinary light globes. And we're now seeing a lot of households paying you know, three, four, $500 a year for their lighting bills, when traditionally they were paying $100 or less. JONATHAN HOLMES: For now, at least, there isn't a simple energy efficient substitute. There are ultra-compact fluorescent downlights but they don't work on dimmers and you'll need an electrician to make the switch. You can read the whole transcript here: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/ ... 961538.htm Might be worth checking out the fluorescent downlights if you have a lot of them. Cheers, Helen Re: should i tell them? should i???? 17Jun 26, 2007 7:53 pm They wouldn't take the extra downlights out. It's not worth it.
Say they charge $80 for each downlight. This is for the downlight, cable, circuit upgrades, and labour. They can't re-use the cable and the downlight itself is worth <$10. Why pay for more labour to retrieve a downlight worth less than $10? The labour would have to more than $50 once they plug up the holes. Ask them for the items you wanted. If they want you to pay for the downlights, tell them to go ahead and remove them and see what happens. Re: should i tell them? should i???? 18Jun 26, 2007 8:40 pm Hmmm...
I would tell them if they make a mistake. And if I did not notice until the end I would still tell them... that's fair. "do unto others..." and all that. While it's true that they would probably not remove what's already there, they do have that right. Yes you should ask for what is missing you have a right to that, no matter what they give. But after all that if everyone is happy a compromise is always a good outcome. Ed If I write "I" please read "We"! Be good. Re: should i tell them? should i???? 19Jun 26, 2007 9:49 pm Karma is a bad thing...
Tell them and you might be suprised.... Re: should i tell them? should i???? 20Jun 27, 2007 10:38 am Honesty is the best policy.
You are expecting them to give you a house warranty aren't you? So if they know you knew they stuffed up and didn;t tell them - Is that how you setup a good starting point ? Not in my books. If I stuff up in business, and my client tells me - We are normally more generous as it sets up good long term relationships. Conversly - if someone is constantly trying to get one up on me and trip us up or rip us off - they tend to be the sort of client I like to stop dealing with. There is such a thing in business as "The customer you don't need to have" Tell them and sort it out now. Steve wondering anyone built with omaxe homes and care to share their experiences. thanks 0 8219 Hi everyone. I am a single mother with little daughter, living in a small tourist town in WA Australia. I am thinking to install security screens to all the doors and… 0 10614 Are you saying that these consultants are involved at key-points of the building, and perform site inspects at the stages, or only after building is completed to point… 4 8512 |