Browse Forums Building A New House Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4361Nov 24, 2013 5:31 pm Carlisle have a quality control inspection process, I believe its pre-slab, frame, plaster and final. A lot of people on here do use however a third party inspector and have only minor issues which are really not a big issue to get a inspector out. PD don't get me wrong are a good builder, they are quick and prompt, however I find Carlisle take more attention to detail and are the type of builder that are only happy once the customer is happy. U will get your up and downs but if u notify Carlisle of these issues they are very quick at getting it rectified without a issue. I find Carlisle better value for money as a lot of the extras u get with Carlisle at no cost, PD charge for. My advice is to go for the plan layout you truly desire and do what you can afford, as u have to remember your gonna be living in it and u don't wanna be saying later on, "should if done this or that" cause it may cost you much more to get these things done later on even with your own contractors. I took the approach of doing everything structure wise and spent the money getting it done with Carlisle, because a lot of the other things that don't effect structure such as electrical(as long as the roof is accessible) and other bits and pieces later on as atleast I know they can easily be done later on. Neither less I believe you will make the right decision and my advise is " you can't go wrong, with Carlisle" Good luck Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4362Nov 24, 2013 6:13 pm Wirepower Carlisle have a quality control inspection process, I believe its pre-slab, frame, plaster and final. A lot of people on here do use however a third party inspector and have only minor issues which are really not a big issue to get a inspector out. PD don't get me wrong are a good builder, they are quick and prompt, however I find Carlisle take more attention to detail and are the type of builder that are only happy once the customer is happy. U will get your up and downs but if u notify Carlisle of these issues they are very quick at getting it rectified without a issue. I find Carlisle better value for money as a lot of the extras u get with Carlisle at no cost, PD charge for. My advice is to go for the plan layout you truly desire and do what you can afford, as u have to remember your gonna be living in it and u don't wanna be saying later on, "should if done this or that" cause it may cost you much more to get these things done later on even with your own contractors. I took the approach of doing everything structure wise and spent the money getting it done with Carlisle, because a lot of the other things that don't effect structure such as electrical(as long as the roof is accessible) and other bits and pieces later on as atleast I know they can easily be done later on. Neither less I believe you will make the right decision and my advise is " you can't go wrong, with Carlisle" Good luck Thanks for taking time to respond wirepower. However, I would like to apologize profusely before saying that it's not much help, probably because I was not very clear myself in my questions first. Sorry! Let me try to explain it little more now.. My first question is really not concerning the QA inspections while at build but maintenance inspections POST BUILD I. E once the house is handed over to us. And then the second question was not very muh about PD vs CH. The question really is he would like to understand whether it's worth going for an affinity home or going to a T range home and then putting on those affinity features via t range promotions and upgrades. His version is it's working out to be a better value for dollars by the second approach , but he wants to hear that from some body who actually did this T range vs affinity comparison with a more detailed approach while they were at sales etc so he can take a more informed decision. Obviously this is assuming that he equally loves both the floor plans that we are comparing here. Apparently he is doing his research about PD from other friends and from us carlisers he would like to know more about CH plans and getting some tips based on our experiences with CH so he can get more value out of dollars that he is spending. Hope that makes sense. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4363Nov 24, 2013 7:55 pm Hi Vetra43, I built with Carlisle just under 2 years ago and I can say I was super impressed with their post build service. They have a 3 month maintenance period & once the inspection was completed they got straight onto every issue, and kept in touch by ringing to make sure the relevant tradie had been in contact with me. While there is no 12 month inspection as such, Carlisle will still make repairs within that 12 months. Anytime something minor came up, I'd just ring their warranty department & they'd have it repaired immediately, no questions or quibbles. Even had a minor repair to a shower slide rail 13 months later. You hear a lot of stories about once a builder has your money they're not interested, but that's not the case with Carlisle. I really can't fault their post build service. I didn't do a comparison between T range & Affinity, the plan we wanted was in the Affinity range. However I do recall that there's more difference than meets the eye. It's not just features you can add. When I was at my colour selection there was a guy arguing over facade colours and he was told that was T range & if he wanted what he wanted then he should chose an Affinity range home - they wouldn't let him simply make an upgrade. They wouldn't budge on the issue. Hope this is of some help. Balf Built Carlisle Atlantique 36 Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=50256 Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4364Nov 25, 2013 10:38 am Hi All I am new to here. Just build house with CH. I saw few peoples said CH is pricey on site cost. So worry to me because of my budget spending on upgrade... . My soil test report is M Class and I will build double storey. Is there anyone has the similar soil condition could tell me approx. site cost from CH? Thanks... Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4365Nov 25, 2013 9:54 pm Vetra43 Thanks for taking time to respond wirepower. However, I would like to apologize profusely before saying that it's not much help, probably because I was not very clear myself in my questions first. Sorry! Let me try to explain it little more now.. My first question is really not concerning the QA inspections while at build but maintenance inspections POST BUILD I. E once the house is handed over to us. And then the second question was not very muh about PD vs CH. The question really is he would like to understand whether it's worth going for an affinity home or going to a T range home and then putting on those affinity features via t range promotions and upgrades. His version is it's working out to be a better value for dollars by the second approach , but he wants to hear that from some body who actually did this T range vs affinity comparison with a more detailed approach while they were at sales etc so he can take a more informed decision. Obviously this is assuming that he equally loves both the floor plans that we are comparing here. Apparently he is doing his research about PD from other friends and from us carlisers he would like to know more about CH plans and getting some tips based on our experiences with CH so he can get more value out of dollars that he is spending. Hope that makes sense. We are in the same boat, tossing up between PD and Carlisle. Trying to find the best plan, and affinity vs t range Leaning towards Carlisle however we have liked more of the Pd sales reps, havent gone far enough through the quotes process yet to figure out their relative costs. Build blog - http://hasslingthehoff.wordpress.com/ Porter Davis Hoffman 39 Knockdown rebuild. Video 1 - Demolition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svbk0YJ-nVc Video 2 - slab and frame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUKBvb7Cy68 Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4366Nov 26, 2013 6:44 am Silverfishy We are in the same boat, tossing up between PD and Carlisle. Trying to find the best plan, and affinity vs t range Leaning towards Carlisle however we have liked more of the Pd sales reps, havent gone far enough through the quotes process yet to figure out their relative costs. I'm in that situation too. I hated my PD sales rep experience - the friendly but extremely pushy approach really annoys me. Especially when being told that we won't rush anything today - only to be pushed into doing it! Same with not getting answers to half of my questions and then being pushed to sign after being asked if there was anything else - I couldn't remember my unanswered questions and only realised it later. By the time I made the adjustments to the PD base plan and came up with something I'd be happy with, the cost was so high that I started re-looking at my options. Hence why I'm now considering CH. Depending on the sales quote from CH, I think my budget may ultimately be the deciding factor. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4367Nov 26, 2013 6:50 am Silverfishy We are in the same boat, tossing up between PD and Carlisle. Trying to find the best plan, and affinity vs t range Leaning towards Carlisle however we have liked more of the Pd sales reps, havent gone far enough through the quotes process yet to figure out their relative costs. I'm in that situation too. I hated my PD sales rep experience - the friendly but extremely pushy approach really annoys me. Especially when being told that we won't rush anything today - only to be pushed into doing it! Same with not getting answers to half of my questions and then being pushed to sign after being asked if there was anything else - I couldn't remember my unanswered questions and only realised it later. By the time I made the adjustments to the PD base plan and came up with something I'd be happy with, the cost was so high that I started re-looking at my options. Hence why I'm now considering CH. Depending on the sales quote from CH, I think my budget may ultimately be the deciding factor. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4368Nov 26, 2013 6:56 am Just had our colour browse on the weekend - came out a little disappointed (mainly around pricing and info). Has anyone put in a trilock - the consultant indicated they are upwards of $300 to upgrade to, which is a bit expensive I thought for a $170 lock. Also, basically impossible to get an indication of tile upgrade costs for my shower in the ensuite, which by my calculations is approximately 6.44m2 of wall tiles. We want the wood look tiles commonly seen in display homes, such as Beaumont 19898, 182160 and similar - has any one put these or similar in (with a rough price) or will I be able to get some ballpark figures by visiting Beaumont? Hoping that for just the shower wall these tiles will be under $500, absolute max $1000. Does anyone know how much it is extra to lay larger tiles (like 600x200 or 900x200) and to upgrade to the next category per m2? Also - in our guide it says Silver is Standard, Gold is Upgrade and White is POA - what are Red tiles? Another upgrade category or POA? Thanks heaps! Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4369Nov 26, 2013 12:51 pm bt91 Just had our colour browse on the weekend - came out a little disappointed (mainly around pricing and info). Has anyone put in a trilock - the consultant indicated they are upwards of $300 to upgrade to, which is a bit expensive I thought for a $170 lock. Also, basically impossible to get an indication of tile upgrade costs for my shower in the ensuite, which by my calculations is approximately 6.44m2 of wall tiles. We want the wood look tiles commonly seen in display homes, such as Beaumont 19898, 182160 and similar - has any one put these or similar in (with a rough price) or will I be able to get some ballpark figures by visiting Beaumont? Hoping that for just the shower wall these tiles will be under $500, absolute max $1000. Does anyone know how much it is extra to lay larger tiles (like 600x200 or 900x200) and to upgrade to the next category per m2? Also - in our guide it says Silver is Standard, Gold is Upgrade and White is POA - what are Red tiles? Another upgrade category or POA? Thanks heaps! bt51 we didn't have the best experience with the colour browse either with the consultant very unclear on prices which we found very frustrating. At colour selection the experience was significantly better with the consultant providing very good estimates which were similar to what was presneted at the tender stage. For tiles we had 600x300 on the ground floor (Nevada) and the cost was around $3,200 including laying (on top of the flooring pack for t range). For the tri lock we are paying $342 which still seems a lot. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4370Nov 27, 2013 8:12 am dper bt51 we didn't have the best experience with the colour browse either with the consultant very unclear on prices which we found very frustrating. At colour selection the experience was significantly better with the consultant providing very good estimates which were similar to what was presneted at the tender stage. For tiles we had 600x300 on the ground floor (Nevada) and the cost was around $3,200 including laying (on top of the flooring pack for t range). For the tri lock we are paying $342 which still seems a lot. Doing my rough calculations from the website floor plan of the Nevada I think there is roughly 100m2 of tiles on the ground floor? If this is somewhat accurate, this is $32 m2 for the additional size (assuming that your tiles were still in the Silver range), so for my Shower Wall I am assuming the laying cost is going to be around $210, plus the additional cost of the tiles (which I am unsure, but assuming $50m2 this would be $325), so hopefully a total cost to upgrade for this wall is going to be under $550. I'm heading down to Beaumont tomorrow, hopefully they can shed some light on Carlisle costs. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4371Nov 27, 2013 10:11 am Hi all, We signed our contract last week. YIPEEE!! so excited. Cant wait till they start the build. I was just wondering how long after signing do you get the final contract drawings and then once they are signed, how long til site scrape? I'm super excited and cant wait until they start (can you tell lol) Building Manhattan41 Colour selection: 25/10/13 Tender: 1/11/13 Contract signed:18/11/13 Site cut: 28/01/14 Slab: 18/02/14 Frame start: 21/02/14 Lock up: 4/03/14 Completion Stage: 9/4/14 Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4372Nov 27, 2013 10:39 am RANDS Hi all, We signed our contract last week. YIPEEE!! so excited. Cant wait till they start the build. I was just wondering how long after signing do you get the final contract drawings and then once they are signed, how long til site scrape? I'm super excited and cant wait until they start (can you tell lol) It is super exciting RANDS!! congrats!! We got our site scrape and then we received the final drawings. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4374Nov 27, 2013 7:18 pm Hi All! Its been a while, my building will start with site scrape next Monday, pretty excited! We went furniture windows shopping last week and finally planning for furniture placement and stuff. In the end of the day realise that we may have missed a a couple places to add power points Really want to add some and ask our CLE, however she said that because it is after contract, there will be a $250 fee on top which is fair enough... If we want to add 3 - 4, do you guys think its worth it? 3 will be $408 in total in which mean $130/double power points! But adding it after may be difficult and expensive, do you guys think I should take the fee and add some more now? Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4375Nov 27, 2013 8:04 pm Bakso Hi All! Its been a while, my building will start with site scrape next Monday, pretty excited! We went furniture windows shopping last week and finally planning for furniture placement and stuff. In the end of the day realise that we may have missed a a couple places to add power points Really want to add some and ask our CLE, however she said that because it is after contract, there will be a $250 fee on top which is fair enough... If we want to add 3 - 4, do you guys think its worth it? 3 will be $408 in total in which mean $130/double power points! But adding it after may be difficult and expensive, do you guys think I should take the fee and add some more now? We are no where near where you are up to (can't wait for our site scrape next August)......but if I was in your position, I'd make the change for the following reasons: 1) It may end up being expensive to get your electrician to do it afterwards 2) You may not be able to put it in the locations where you would like them 3) Powerpoints will be different design 4) Most importantly, it will nag at me throughout the whole build. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4376Nov 28, 2013 10:42 am Bakso Hi All! Its been a while, my building will start with site scrape next Monday, pretty excited! We went furniture windows shopping last week and finally planning for furniture placement and stuff. In the end of the day realise that we may have missed a a couple places to add power points Really want to add some and ask our CLE, however she said that because it is after contract, there will be a $250 fee on top which is fair enough... If we want to add 3 - 4, do you guys think its worth it? 3 will be $408 in total in which mean $130/double power points! But adding it after may be difficult and expensive, do you guys think I should take the fee and add some more now? The price is too expensive and do it afterward. But if you are building double storey home, All electrical things in the ground floor have to be done before the plaster. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4377Nov 28, 2013 11:34 am February12 RANDS Hi all, We signed our contract last week. YIPEEE!! so excited. Cant wait till they start the build. I was just wondering how long after signing do you get the final contract drawings and then once they are signed, how long til site scrape? I'm super excited and cant wait until they start (can you tell lol) It is super exciting RANDS!! congrats!! We got our site scrape and then we received the final drawings. Thanks for your reply, How long did it take for them to do the scrape after signing? Building Manhattan41 Colour selection: 25/10/13 Tender: 1/11/13 Contract signed:18/11/13 Site cut: 28/01/14 Slab: 18/02/14 Frame start: 21/02/14 Lock up: 4/03/14 Completion Stage: 9/4/14 Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4378Nov 29, 2013 8:36 am RANDS February12 RANDS Hi all, We signed our contract last week. YIPEEE!! so excited. Cant wait till they start the build. I was just wondering how long after signing do you get the final contract drawings and then once they are signed, how long til site scrape? I'm super excited and cant wait until they start (can you tell lol) It is super exciting RANDS!! congrats!! We got our site scrape and then we received the final drawings. Thanks for your reply, How long did it take for them to do the scrape after signing? i signed on Aug 23rd and it all didn't start till around Oct 24th. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4379Nov 29, 2013 10:18 am Vetra43 Dakota30 So our soil test were done on Monday and I got a copy of the report yesterday and it doesn't look good at all. The report has come back with a recommendation to use screw piles / piers as there is more fill on the flat block than indicated on the engineering report from the developer, sigh! it's approximately 3m worth and we are just waiting on an indication of price. We haven't committed to the block yet we have an appointment to sign land contracts on the 30/11, but it's such a downer as the block we have found fits the house perfect and theirs not much if any left in the are we want to build. Does anyone know much about screw piles??? Oh no! Sorry to hear that Dakota, hope CH would offer a good price. Are you saying 3m worth if fill? Because as far as I can remember ours was about 1.58m fill. I thought that was a lot. Although I am not an expert in this, how about talking to the lady at sales to see if she can offer any price reduction etc given that the land is still not settled? May be they will offer some discount if you indicate this could be a deal breaker ? Ouch, site costs/council costs come back ....... $28K screw piles throughout, ill just pick myself up off the floor!!! Oh dear. Why do the developers do this, looks like ill be using this against them tomorrow at our contracting signing appointment. This is the house we will be staying in for a very long time, great location 400m to shops and schools (we have a 2 year old) and flat as flat due to fill. I know no one will be able to answer this question for me but do we pay $28K for site costs incl council costs or walk away, any advice or thoughts would be much appreciated??? i just dont know what to think as its now gone over budget Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4380Nov 29, 2013 9:37 pm noisuf Bakso Hi All! Its been a while, my building will start with site scrape next Monday, pretty excited! We went furniture windows shopping last week and finally planning for furniture placement and stuff. In the end of the day realise that we may have missed a a couple places to add power points Really want to add some and ask our CLE, however she said that because it is after contract, there will be a $250 fee on top which is fair enough... If we want to add 3 - 4, do you guys think its worth it? 3 will be $408 in total in which mean $130/double power points! But adding it after may be difficult and expensive, do you guys think I should take the fee and add some more now? We are no where near where you are up to (can't wait for our site scrape next August)......but if I was in your position, I'd make the change for the following reasons: 1) It may end up being expensive to get your electrician to do it afterwards 2) You may not be able to put it in the locations where you would like them 3) Powerpoints will be different design 4) Most importantly, it will nag at me throughout the whole build. Good news, my CLE come back and she said they have decide to remove the post contract variation cost :) So I add the 4 power points for a normal price 0 4972 We are at the stage on our build in Kilcoy, Queensland where we need to get our fencing installed but we cant get any contact details for our neighbours to give them… 0 6145 You should check your detail drawings, it may show downpipe within brick pier. 14 14078 |