Browse Forums Building A New House Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4121Aug 17, 2013 9:33 am Hi All, For people who have signed their contract, if you found a couple of minor mistakes, do you ask them to fix it as a contract variation or refuse to sign until you get a new fixed contract? My CLE has advise me that i should still sign the contract and he will prepare a variation document to amend the mistake and add other variation during the contract signing to be included with the contract. Is this common practice or my CLE just lazy? Another thing is zoned ducted heating, if anyone choose to go with it with Carlisle. How much did you get charge? How many extra motor did you get? Is the price includes the extra thermostat in the extra zoned area? Will every zone have the capabilities to be turned off and on independently? Thanks! Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4122Aug 17, 2013 2:19 pm Bakso Harishka Hi Bakso, Either they must included more expensive zoning option or could well be a major mistake. Hi Harishka, I received my contract today, So many mistakes sigh... One of them is I have been quoted $1,062 for 2 zones. The article state: Provide 2No. Zone Motors to ducted heating unit to isolate the selected points. Zone 1: .... Zone 2: .... Can I please ask is this the the same as what you get? I think the mistake must be it they should only provide 1 extra motor instead of 2 (Considering the price is exactly 2 x $531)? Does your quote state provide 1No? Hi Bakso, Sorry for the delay. Yes in my tender is says "1 No. Zone motor to ducted heating unit to isolate selected points. The zone motor will allow either all heating points to operate or the selected points only. Minimum six points need to be operable at any one time" Hope this helps.. Harishka Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4123Aug 18, 2013 12:41 am Harishka Bakso Harishka Hi Bakso, Either they must included more expensive zoning option or could well be a major mistake. Hi Harishka, I received my contract today, So many mistakes sigh... One of them is I have been quoted $1,062 for 2 zones. The article state: Provide 2No. Zone Motors to ducted heating unit to isolate the selected points. Zone 1: .... Zone 2: .... Can I please ask is this the the same as what you get? I think the mistake must be it they should only provide 1 extra motor instead of 2 (Considering the price is exactly 2 x $531)? Does your quote state provide 1No? Hi Bakso, Sorry for the delay. Yes in my tender is says "1 No. Zone motor to ducted heating unit to isolate selected points. The zone motor will allow either all heating points to operate or the selected points only. Minimum six points need to be operable at any one time" Hope this helps.. Hi Harishka, Thanks for the reply, so if I got this right, when you turn the heater on there is 1 zone (or some points) in the house that need to be always on and the 2nd zone can be switched on or off. If this is true that I think I know why I was charged for 2 motors It is because I want both zone to be independently turned on and off. This mean they need to Isolate both zone... but damn it is expensive Do you get an extra temperature sensors on the second zone? Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4125Aug 18, 2013 11:33 am Hi Bakso, I think your understanding is correct. But please confirm with someone who knows better than my self. After I get the pricing of this I've decided not to go for it and didn't figure out exact functionality of it as well. We wanted to go for it when our sales guy initially quoted only $531, later only we were told that we have to also upgrade the heater for another $900+ We decided use that money for something else. our heater usage is very vary and its hard to manage it efficiently with 2 zones. so might not be very practical for us even if we go for the upgrade. so decided not to Harishka Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4126Aug 18, 2013 9:33 pm Hi I was hoping i could gain an understanding of slab requirements My Lots in Williams landing has been classed Site classification (P).Carlisle homes are advising I use a H2 waffle raft slab. Can you with experience in building advise if this the right slab for this type of block. I’m building a double storey house. Also in the soil report there is some reference to Timber floor “Gridded strip footing””Strip footing with floors not recommended due to high reactivity the clays on this site” does this refer to installing timber floors over a concrete slab or is the something else completely unrelated? Carlisle homes tender statement below Provide to Home, 385mm high "H2" Class Waffle Raft slab in lieu of standard "M" class Included Slab, to suit class "P" site classification as per soil report number ***** including necessary Slab adjustments and steel reinforcement upgrades to suit soil and site conditions. The Alfresco & Porch will have concrete poured as part of the slab. Please note that it will be Necessary to pour a finished concrete over this concrete as Carlisle Homes cannot guarantee That the concrete will not be damaged and scuffed during construction. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4127Aug 21, 2013 6:23 pm Hi Anyone Use Independent house inspector during construction stage while building with Carlisle homes? Is quality of Carlisle Homes is high enough so independent house inspection do not necessary? Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4128Aug 21, 2013 11:04 pm Has anyone experienced this? There's one item in my contract (this came as a variation)- "Energy rating assessment has now been completed and following changes are required to achieve 6 star rating as per inclusion document - Provide R2.5 insulation batts to external walls in lieu of R1.5 batts" Cost is $1522 This came as a surprise as they already have 6 star energy rating as a standard inclusion. This is what the reply from CLE "Our standard inclusions allow to have assessment completed based off the standard house design and standard inclusions. The standard inclusions (insulation etc.) may not always cover the requirements to achieve a 6 star energy rating therefore upgraded items may be required to achieve this. The orientation of your house plays a big impact on the energy rating as depending which way the windows face etc. this will affect it. Also, any alterations you make to the house can also have an effect on this." Is this acceptable? This came after we signed the contract. So not sure what to do.. Harishka Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4129Aug 22, 2013 9:05 pm Harishka Has anyone experienced this? There's one item in my contract (this came as a variation)- "Energy rating assessment has now been completed and following changes are required to achieve 6 star rating as per inclusion document - Provide R2.5 insulation batts to external walls in lieu of R1.5 batts" Cost is $1522 This came as a surprise as they already have 6 star energy rating as a standard inclusion. This is what the reply from CLE "Our standard inclusions allow to have assessment completed based off the standard house design and standard inclusions. The standard inclusions (insulation etc.) may not always cover the requirements to achieve a 6 star energy rating therefore upgraded items may be required to achieve this. The orientation of your house plays a big impact on the energy rating as depending which way the windows face etc. this will affect it. Also, any alterations you make to the house can also have an effect on this." Is this acceptable? This came after we signed the contract. So not sure what to do.. Hi Hariska, I'm sure that 6 star energy rating is standard (to any orientation) to all homes as stated on standard inclusion, any upgrades needed for a standard plan should be cover by Carlisle Homes. Do you make any modification to windows / structural of the house at all? Because this may means that your plan is not standard and they may charge you extra for the 6 star. Seems that your CLE response is general response and did not point specifically to why in your house, the upgrade stated is needed and why you should pay for it. If you do not make any changes, I would ask to see the energy rating report and ask Carlisle Homes to point out how is this possible to be charged more while the standard inclusion stated that it is included. kilara20 Hi Anyone Use Independent house inspector during construction stage while building with Carlisle homes? Is quality of Carlisle Homes is high enough so independent house inspection do not necessary? I'm planning to hire a private inspector on top standard Carlisle inclusion but haven't decide who to call Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4130Aug 22, 2013 10:42 pm We had a private inspector. I think it is always necessary for 2 reasons. 1) your peace of mind and sanity and 2) because NO build is ever perfect. In saying that whilst our inspector has picked up a few things none of them are major and we are very happy with our carlisle experience. We get our keys next week! Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65498 Deposit 17/02/13 Contract 12/04 Slab 17/05 Roof 06/06 Bricks, Lockup and Fixing 04/07 PCI 22/08 Handover 29/08 Moved in 07/09! Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4132Aug 23, 2013 10:05 pm kilara20 Hi Anyone Use Independent house inspector during construction stage while building with Carlisle homes? Is quality of Carlisle Homes is high enough so independent house inspection do not necessary? I would like to think that Carlisle Homes are of good standard, however there is always the chances of one of their contractors making a mistake or a shortcut or things just not meeting codes/standards for one reason or another, like any job. It should mean things are picked up if they are not to code/scratch and fixed before they become troublesome or go to far. Being compensated for the missing part/maintenance work is likely not ideal(if there is any compensation), and which is likely to not equate to the value the home owner is likely to place on it. With an independent inspector, your also the one paying them and receiving a report - so they are answering to you, not the company. We are hiring one (NHI) and will have them out for 3 stages, next week for our framing stage. Carlisle Homes ~ Winslow 33 http://jm-winslow33.blogspot.com.au/ 04/7 - Site cut 22/8 - Base 28/8 - Frame 02/9 - Roof 15/9 Plumbing & Electrical 7/10 - Lockup November - Complete Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4133Aug 23, 2013 11:31 pm I planned on having an inspector at the frame stage and final stage, however the frame was up so quick and I hadn't notified my SS that I planned on having it inspected that I really had no time to organise it. That being said my SS reminded me that Carlisle has an inspector monitor things as well, so I felt a little less freaked out about it. I do still plan on having the inspector out for the final stages though what Jason-Vic says is true re the independent contractors etc and it's better to be safe than sorry. That being said, I'm really pleased with the quality of Carlisle's work and am so happy I decided on them.
HD Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4134Aug 23, 2013 11:36 pm Bakso regarding the contract variations... That is absolutely standard practice to have things changed on contract signing day it's not as scary as it sounds. You basically sit with your CLE, Go over the contract, Change any last minute things, they answer your questions or ask someone in the office who can. Make sure you get all your questions out on this day though cause once you sign those papers you will incur that $500 post contract variance fee if you want to change anything from there on out. So be thorough and take your time and write lots of lists! HD Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4135Aug 25, 2013 10:36 pm kilara20 Hi Thank you very much for your reply. Can I know the independent inspector that you used for your house inspection. New Home Inspections - Rob Very happy with his work and the quick turn around on providing us with the report. We got the report on the same day each time. Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65498 Deposit 17/02/13 Contract 12/04 Slab 17/05 Roof 06/06 Bricks, Lockup and Fixing 04/07 PCI 22/08 Handover 29/08 Moved in 07/09! Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4136Aug 26, 2013 1:46 pm Well today is the big week, this Friday I have color selection big day comin up. 2hour drive just to get there. Should be exciting, even though we already know what we want. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4137Aug 26, 2013 2:42 pm Hey guys I was wondering, what exactly is a final inspection? I know it's a walk through with the SS and an independent inspector if I bring one on, what is the next step after this? HD Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4138Aug 26, 2013 2:57 pm Hey guys, Just moved into our new Indra 20 and pretty happy with it. Will be better once the street has finished construction, but overall quality is very good, not too many warranty issues as yet. However, the reason I am posting is there was one major oversight on CH's part - when our evap cooler unit was installed, they did not provide a water point (which is required for the unit to function) Happy to report that after the heating/cooling guy came out and advised us of this, CH got it sorted in 2 days. One to check though... Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4139Aug 26, 2013 3:52 pm LittleWing Hey guys I was wondering, what exactly is a final inspection? I know it's a walk through with the SS and an independent inspector if I bring one on, what is the next step after this? HD Basically a final walk through with SS to point out any faults/defects to CH and for them to acknowledge and rectify before they hand over the keys. Takes about 1 hour for a double storey, some people really fine tooth comb over it, but we just picked out the major issues. SS will then note down all identified defects (if he agreed to them) and then lodge it with the manager who will then type out and send you a letter of all defects identified and agreed to fix at a certain date. With small painting blemishes and little things like caulking or little minor dents in wall, I wouldn't bother as it would consume more of your time waiting for them than actually patching it yourself. CH will then usually give themselves or rather organise the relevant person in about 2 weeks time to fix everything. Re: The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread 4140Aug 26, 2013 3:57 pm Quote: Hi Harishka, Thanks for the reply, so if I got this right, when you turn the heater on there is 1 zone (or some points) in the house that need to be always on and the 2nd zone can be switched on or off. If this is true that I think I know why I was charged for 2 motors It is because I want both zone to be independently turned on and off. This mean they need to Isolate both zone... but damn it is expensive Do you get an extra temperature sensors on the second zone? You need a motor per zone if you want them to run in isolation, can't skimp with just one motor... Whilst expensive, I think it's worth it, generally speaking from a double storey house, as hot air rises, the 2nd floor will be warm in winter but like a frypan in summer! In our house, the upper floor is generally 2 degrees warmer than downstairs and I cannot sleep in our room if we didn't have it zoned!!! 0 4933 We are at the stage on our build in Kilcoy, Queensland where we need to get our fencing installed but we cant get any contact details for our neighbours to give them… 0 6125 You should check your detail drawings, it may show downpipe within brick pier. 14 14019 |