Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Sep 03, 2009 10:35 pm Hi All, Thought i would move the conversation into a new topic, rather than hijack Manda's thread... When i purchased the land from LWP in the Glades at Byford, i was told that one of the great benefits of the estate was a storm water drainage system. This would negate any need to dig and install soakwells. When i went to pre-start i was told this was incorrect and i would still need to put in soakwells, but i could just connect them up to the storm water drains in case of overflow. Can anyone shed some light on the subject or has anyone built in an estate with storm water drains? Cheers, Troy Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 2Sep 03, 2009 11:15 pm Hi mate, We are building in the glades and are almost at plate high, you DO NOT, i say again YOU DO NOT need soakwells. Your builder is ****** to you and trying to get money out of you as soakwells are more expensive than stormwater connection. Who is your builder? Building with CELEBRATION HOMES @ THE GLADES in BYFORD W.A. My Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19512&p=249550#p249550 Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 3Sep 04, 2009 12:44 am Thanks for the confirmation. I'm building with Blueprint Homes, but the stupid thing was they suggested getting someone else to do it/doing it myself. So it wasn't even as if they were trying to make more money themselves. How does it actually work but, i assume i need to get a plumber to connect the downpipes to the storm water pit? Cheers, Troy Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 4Sep 04, 2009 8:29 am nope it'll all be done when your services are done for siteworks. Just demand your builder connect to the drainage and make sure it's on your contract and your drawings. Triple check it, then triple check it again. your siteworks cost should be about the 14k mark for glades. Building with CELEBRATION HOMES @ THE GLADES in BYFORD W.A. My Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19512&p=249550#p249550 Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 5Sep 04, 2009 2:21 pm We are connected to stormwater but this is what our sales rep emailed us when we we had our slab laid. In Canning Vale usually stormwater is connected to council drains (included in your siteworks amount) therefore there is no requirement for soakwells. In your case soakwells are in fact required.. To this day i am not sure why we needed soakwells but we got them. Home Group WA Monte Carlo Timeline on Page 1 Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 6Sep 04, 2009 5:17 pm I would demand a why in our case. Building with CELEBRATION HOMES @ THE GLADES in BYFORD W.A. My Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19512&p=249550#p249550 Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 7Sep 04, 2009 5:48 pm We shouldn't need them in the glades. Its part of their selling point. Oh part of the package of modern home living storm water connection negating the need for soakwells. I would definitely be asking why??? Nicci did they try and charge you for them or just add them?? Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 8Sep 08, 2009 12:47 am I am in SA and this is the first I have heard of a soakwell. My downpipes are piped out to the street. Why do you need a soakwell? Are you not allowed to direct the downpipe water to the street? Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 9Sep 08, 2009 12:55 am I just had a quote for soakwells today - 284m2 house, 10 down pipes, 10 soakwells 1400 labor and materials. Pretty good I think! Not sure if we will still kill ourselves with manual labor to save a few hundred dollars!! *Built with Gemmill Homes in WA* Slab - 1st June 2009 Plate Height - 17th June 2009 Lock Up - 18th August 2009 PCI - 5th October 2009 Hand Over - 15th Oct 2009 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20844 Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 10Sep 08, 2009 1:00 am Manda I just had a quote for soakwells today - 284m2 house, 10 down pipes, 10 soakwells 1400 labor and materials. Pretty good I think! Not sure if we will still kill ourselves with manual labor to save a few hundred dollars!! 10 Soakwells ? Wow that's alot. What size are your soakwells. I'm building in Canning Vale too and it is the council requirement to have soalwells on site with overflow connect to the council drainage. For my house need 2 x 1200mmx1200mm Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 11Sep 08, 2009 1:59 am The soakwells are just the right size for one downpipe per soakwell. If you use the bigs ones you have multiple downpipes to a soakwell. *Built with Gemmill Homes in WA* Slab - 1st June 2009 Plate Height - 17th June 2009 Lock Up - 18th August 2009 PCI - 5th October 2009 Hand Over - 15th Oct 2009 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20844 Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 12Sep 16, 2009 1:59 pm Pigdaddy nope it'll all be done when your services are done for siteworks. Just demand your builder connect to the drainage and make sure it's on your contract and your drawings. Triple check it, then triple check it again. your siteworks cost should be about the 14k mark for glades. So i spoke with the builder again today, and they mentioned that they can't do anything until they get the building license which is a crock of ****! and that they think it needs a silt pit setup and thats then connected to the storm water system. They estimate it will be around the 2k mark! If that's the case it's cheaper to get 10 bloody soakwells installed by a plumber! Anyone else thing i'm being led down the bloody garden path!? Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 13Sep 16, 2009 3:47 pm Hi Guys, We are also building in Canning vale. For our block, as per the concil we need interconnected soakwells with a minimum capacity of 1-20 years of storm water disposal(didnt quiet get what is this). Which need to be installed minimum of 1.5m away from the house. There is nothing mentioned about connecting them to council drain. We specifically asked whether we need to connect them to council drain but the lady at the council said there is no condition on building licence of connecting it to concil drain. So we dont need to connect them to drain. How come in the same council there is different condition for soakwells. Also what does interconnected soakwell mean. Can some please shade some light on it. Thanks Tama Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 14Sep 16, 2009 6:13 pm Hi Tama, From what it sounds like, there's nothing stopping you from connecting to the council drainage system, just that it's not actually required. Interconnecting soak wells mean you join the soak wells together directly. So if you had one in the front left and one in the front right. You would have a pipe between them. Logic being if for some reason one is filling up quicker it will overflow into the next soak well as apposed to backing up into your roof. For everyone else, a bit of an update to my post this morning. I had to go out to the estate this afternoon to take some photos of the footpath along the front of my block (another story for later!) and whilst i was there i stopped in to see the land sales guys. For anyone wondering or being led on by the builder like i have been the deal is this. Soak Wells are not required, nor is any kind of silt pit. In other estates without specific stormwater drains it is common to use either soak wells, or alternatively connect all drains to a silt water pit then from there out to the council drains. Due to a number of reasons, mostly the fact that the soil is clay - thus not going to drain very well, LWP opted to put in a storm water system. Essentially this consists of a silt pit on every second block which are all interconnected to a run off area at the end of each street. The water is then filtered and put back into the river. So if for some reason your builder (like mine) isn't aware of what the deal is, you can tell them the only thing they need to do is put in the piping from your downpipes to the storm water drain at the front of each block. Easy as that!! As to what ridiculously high figure they're going to charge me to do this i'm yet to see!! Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 16Sep 17, 2009 4:04 pm Hi Elemist, Thanks for your reply. As per our plan there are downpipes on all 4 side. Is it necessary to have individual soakwells for each downpipe or can we use a bigger soakwell and share it amonst some downpipes. So eg if we have 4 soakwells one on each corner of the block. Is it cumpulsory to connect all together. The reason why i am asking this is because on the front side there is a drive way, we are getting it done by our builder. Now if we had to connect front 2 soakwells then do we need a pipe below the drive way. Cheers Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 17Sep 17, 2009 5:43 pm Well i'm far from a soakwell expert, but if the council has said they should be interconnected then i would do it. That said i doubt they're going to dig up your yard to check As far as i know you can easily have multiple downpipes going to the same soak well, i would suggest that you use a larger soak well in this case. With the driveway problem, few things to keep in mind. If your putting in retic, or even having it done you will need a conduit under your driveway. I'm actually doing all that myself. Basically before they lay the driveway i'll trench and lay a couple of conduits under it for the retic. Cheers, Troy Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 18Sep 17, 2009 6:51 pm Instead of as many soakwells people could consider a rainwater tank. I am required to either have rainwater or greywater system. Not looking forward to soakwells - did it earlier this year at in our established home with the huge concrete ones - what a mission! Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 19Sep 18, 2009 12:39 am OK so i'm back at this again... The builder have come back with a cost of over $2000 to put run pipework from the down pipes to the storm water drain. Personally i think this is stupidly rediculously overpriced. So the question is.. How much did you all pay for your stormwater connections? Re: Storm water drains and soakwells 20Sep 18, 2009 12:57 pm elemist OK so i'm back at this again... The builder have come back with a cost of over $2000 to put run pipework from the down pipes to the storm water drain. Personally i think this is stupidly rediculously overpriced. So the question is.. How much did you all pay for your stormwater connections? Mine is just listed in my site-works inclusions. It does not have a breakdown of costs just a list and a final inclusions cost. Hello I am developing 2 side by side units. Wish someone can help me on the following questions 1) Which stage should be the storm water pipe installed during the new… 0 6656 If you need to be able to access these then you may need to dig them out and cut them so you can add a socket and a riser to the required height. We normally add a… 1 5998 This certainly doesn't look good. I would be engaging with an independent inspector to have a look at this. 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