Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Post contract variations, how much? 21Aug 04, 2009 10:46 am - their entire post comes up in a box on your reply but you can go inside the box and take parts out so you are only qouting the sentence you need. Quote: thankyou so much Helyn! i really must do a computer course (or i could always get up on this forum when my kids are not at school or in bed so they could help me!) Now lets see how I went............ Re: Post contract variations, how much? 22Aug 04, 2009 11:03 am Quote: quote="issy jo"]- their entire post comes up in a box on your reply but you can go inside the box and take parts out so you are only qouting the sentence you need. DOH got that one frack to bunt! I pressed the submit button a split second before i realised i wanted to pre-view it. Now i can see how stupid things are accidentally up on view to who-ever,where-ever; all from pressing one wrong little button. Scary stuff!!! The bold type is one thing i knew how to do,hehe and also the smilies thing,too. Now lets see how this goes, preview first then submit....... PS-sorry everyone if i'm clogging up this thread with my lack of computer skills! PPS- i previewed it and it looks exactly the same as when i was typing it up,so here goes, i'll submit it and see how i went.......... Cheers, Issy Re: Post contract variations, how much? 23Aug 04, 2009 11:06 am issy jo Quote: quote="issy jo"]- their entire post comes up in a box on your reply but you can go inside the box and take parts out so you are only qouting the sentence you need. YEY!!! Thanks Helyn, you are a marvel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Re: Post contract variations, how much? 24Aug 04, 2009 3:15 pm Vid "Unforeseen at the time" Yes, I still stick by my post about them doing the test so they should know how much before a variation. Its all a part of building I guess. Cheers KW............. “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: Post contract variations, how much? 25Aug 19, 2009 12:32 am Hi all I was looking at my contract, again, and I see no mention about "addministration fees for Variations". Im starting to think (some thing I dont do verry offen) that this "fee" is a crock of Sh8t. If its not in the contract, its not on. Why are people paying it ???????? If you want a variation I understand you can put it in writing & the builder has so many days to get back to you on it. Then if they say NO to it you can appeal in VCAT. Has anyone said no to the extortion of "fees" For example: Maybe I want a feature tile put in over the sink. The tiles cost me say $30 at bunnings. So why would I pay $150 fee then, $30 + 20%. Quote: My builder charges $200 when you change anything. But its amazing they can change anything they like but they dont give me $200. I totally agree, and will seek legal advice as to whats the best way to tackle this one, as I really think they cant make you pay it. KW........... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: Post contract variations, how much? 26Aug 19, 2009 10:00 am issy jo YEY!!! Thanks Helyn, you are a marvel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Havent popped into this thread for a while but so glad you got the hang of it Issy Jo (actually I just enjoyed quoting her compliment ) Re: Post contract variations, how much? 28Aug 19, 2009 11:04 am King Willy, our contract states about the variation fee of $400, and they like to copy this part of the contract it in their return emails to us when we question it. We just naievely (sp?) thought that for very small changes (like colours) it wouldn't be charged. We certainly have not been making lots of changes, just a couple of insignificant ones ... and yes they have made a couple of big changes .. structural ones that variations have to be raised for ... but that's a different story!!! We are not having a very pleasant building experience with our builder at all. Re: Post contract variations, how much? 29Aug 19, 2009 11:10 am Jaelee Sorry to hear its not pleasent at the moment. Yes, I think it unfair they charge so much. Yes, Im sure they like to remind you when you ask why the $400. Hope things improve and you start to enjoy the process a bit more. Cheers KW.......... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: Post contract variations, how much? 30Aug 19, 2009 11:39 am Hi KW, We were charged $150 for each PCV episode. We've had about 3 post contract variations - extra light points, video intercom wiring & external vent for the rangehood. We were charged $150 admin fee which we questioned. However, the builder advised that as long as all changes were on 1 variation sheet it would be a flat fee of $150 for admin. We were glad that we weren't being charged $150 per amendment. At the same time others who have also built with NBG (different builders), haven't been charged a cent...hehe..each builder is different Re: Post contract variations, how much? 31Aug 19, 2009 12:08 pm I had to pay $300 for the variation fee, and $350 to have a bit of wall cut down (as I think the drafty made a mistake) and it looked very strange sticking out. If they make variations, there has been no cost. I am building with C*ollier Homes in WA. Built the Driftwood with C*ollier Homes Moved in 8 November 2009 Slowly getting organised ..... Re: Post contract variations, how much? 32Feb 26, 2010 3:23 pm We are being charged a $250 variation fee by WA Ctry Buldrs. For changing grout colours of the wet area floors and changing skirt tile in laundry to white and ensuite vanity to white tiles. Tile changes other people we know have made and were not given a variation fee. Just an a-hole supervisor. Not happy about it because at the tile shop we just said grout to match tiles, so they pick it and we discover the grout isnt even close to matching the tile. So we had two tiles of different colour and the same colour grout to do both of them. THey then b-tched they had to go get more grout which they would have anyway, since there was only 5x1.5kg bags of grout to do the floors a Laundry,WC,BATH,ENSUITE, WC2. And as far as the tiles changes go, we were told they had to get more white tiles. Which is crap because there wasnt enough tiles anyway because THEY made a variation by adding a nib wall in the bathroom (1 box at least) after the tile shop had ordered and delivered the tiles to site. And they had to tile 2 rows high instead of 1 beacause the tiles didnt clear the taps So their own variations had them needing more tiles not ours. Anyway $250, and im done ranting. Re: Post contract variations, how much? 33Feb 26, 2010 4:51 pm I'm up to almost $10k in variations but haven't been charged an admin fee. Well not that I know of anyway, could have been included in the individual variation costs. Custom Design, Private Builder Floors Sealed, Ready To Move In! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=19196 Re: Post contract variations, how much? 34Feb 26, 2010 6:18 pm $300 for us. http://burbankascent2500.blogspot.com/ https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28503 [url=http://www.TickerFactory.com/] HOUSE COMPLETED IN 119 DAYS PCI Complete Handover 24th August Re: Post contract variations, how much? 35Feb 27, 2010 11:58 am Hi all Read all documents you signed and the one you did not as it may be infered as part of the contract. It unfair that you get charged money to have your home the way you want it. However, think of the builder who is on the phone all day with people who want to change from cream to light cream wall paint?????? But they are not sure just yet. lol If its in the contract you may be stuck with it. If not make the change but ask to seee the 20% invoice to make sure your not getting ripped off. KW............... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: Post contract variations, how much? 36Feb 27, 2010 4:06 pm We have to pay a $100 variation fee plus any difference in cost. For example, we decided last night to change two doors from normal hinged internal doors to cavity sliding doors. The cavity sliders cost $98 extra each to upgrade, so we pay $98 for each of the doors plus the $100 fee. Also, even though we are making two changes (ie two doors are affected), because it is for the same type of item, we only get one fee. Nic. Built the Coral Homes Hamilton 252 - moved in 20/10/2010 and loving it!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=27215 Re: Post contract variations, how much? 37Feb 27, 2010 7:59 pm NCole We are being charged a $250 variation fee by WA Ctry Buldrs. For changing grout colours of the wet area floors and changing skirt tile in laundry to white and ensuite vanity to white tiles. Tile changes other people we know have made and were not given a variation fee. Just an a-hole supervisor. Not happy about it because at the tile shop we just said grout to match tiles, so they pick it and we discover the grout isnt even close to matching the tile. So we had two tiles of different colour and the same colour grout to do both of them. THey then b-tched they had to go get more grout which they would have anyway, since there was only 5x1.5kg bags of grout to do the floors a Laundry,WC,BATH,ENSUITE, WC2. And as far as the tiles changes go, we were told they had to get more white tiles. Which is crap because there wasnt enough tiles anyway because THEY made a variation by adding a nib wall in the bathroom (1 box at least) after the tile shop had ordered and delivered the tiles to site. And they had to tile 2 rows high instead of 1 beacause the tiles didnt clear the taps So their own variations had them needing more tiles not ours. Anyway $250, and im done ranting. We were building with them in the south west, and our contract says variations are charged at $400, so $250 aint that bad. Re: Post contract variations, how much? 38Feb 28, 2010 10:57 am our variation admin charge was $150 each time after the final drawings were done and signed off on. prior to the final drawings, all changes were FOC Re: Post contract variations, how much? 39Feb 28, 2010 12:24 pm We're building with Simonds and have had quite a few post contract variations but no admin fees charged with them at all, just charges related to the actual changes. Caz & Co ALL MOVED IN!! Now comes all the hard work-decorating.... [b]Blog: http://cazoraz.blogspot.com/ Settling in Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=36993 Re: Post contract variations, how much? 40Feb 28, 2010 10:06 pm Our contract says $1000 per post contract variation plus a 25% builders margin on top of the cost of the variation. Needless to say we were very careful prior to contract that we were as happy as possible with our plans and selections before we signed the contract so that we wouldn't have to make any variations later. We paid a $500 variation fee to add an extra gas point (plus the cost of the actual gas point) because we added it on once we'd already signed off on our colours selections; this was before we'd signed the actual contract. 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