Browse Forums Building A New House Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 21Aug 01, 2009 10:20 pm i tALK Do you have these lights working yet. I mean are you in your home yet. I would like to know if I should change from 12v. H to these. Hey $15.00 with a globe seems OK. Do I need to buy something elles to go with them? The labie at the shop said a customer wanted 4 in a bedroom and said 2 is even too bright. ( but she is a sales person) She also said they are $29.00 not $15.00 lol Thanks KW.......... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 22Aug 01, 2009 10:42 pm Its seems pretty normal for shop prices to be higher than online - overheads to cover- however if you can find online what you want and the postage is OK then there's a saving to be made. I've bought my light fittings from a shop, online & Ebay - from my experience it does pay to shop around, even online prices vary. You do have to compare exact same items though. Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 23Aug 02, 2009 7:11 pm King willy i tALK Do you have these lights working yet. I mean are you in your home yet. I would like to know if I should change from 12v. H to these. . Hi KW, No we don't have them installed yet. We ordered ours from Beacon Lightings for a good price ~$27.30. Even small shops couldn't match this price. I was told that each of these lights cover a 2m x 2m area. We ordered the day light 5000K globes which sit in between the ugly yellowish and blueish lights .. Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 24Aug 02, 2009 9:08 pm 5000K will be very white. I have a few 4000K downlights and they are way too white. Like office lights... Warm white 2700K is the way to go. Looks like a halogen. $27.30 seems expensive. I got 13w Espar silver gimbal lights for $15.95 each. Al & Caitie- Building the Hamilton 278 (Coral) at Narangba Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 25Aug 02, 2009 10:37 pm alk 5000K will be very white. I have a few 4000K downlights and they are way too white. Like office lights... Warm white 2700K is the way to go. Looks like a halogen. $27.30 seems expensive. I got 13w Espar silver gimbal lights for $15.95 each. Yeah alk, the reason is the glass frosted covers these lights come with. Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 26Aug 02, 2009 10:56 pm iTalk alk 5000K will be very white. I have a few 4000K downlights and they are way too white. Like office lights... Warm white 2700K is the way to go. Looks like a halogen. $27.30 seems expensive. I got 13w Espar silver gimbal lights for $15.95 each. Yeah alk, the reason is the glass frosted covers these lights come with. Are they different to the frosted covers on these ones? http://www.lightingillusions.com.au/Ite ... ng%20Globe Al & Caitie- Building the Hamilton 278 (Coral) at Narangba Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 27Aug 02, 2009 11:19 pm alk I followed the link, thanks kindly. They seem to be a good price & delivery is OK also. HAve you moved in yet ? Would love to know a bit more about them. They seem to be a much cheaper option to run. Thanks KW........... “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 28Aug 02, 2009 11:36 pm No worries mate. We haven't moved in but all our lights have been fitted (we are pretty much at completion - just the splashback tiling and shower screens need to be done). I've got: -30 x 13w warm white 2700K: looks like your normal warm light bulb glow (yellowish) -4 x 13w cool white 4000K: looks like a standard office/school fluro light (stark white) -1 x 18w cool white 4000K: as above -1 x 18 w daylight 6400K: looks like a nice white light with a blue tinge (whitish blue) Warm white in all the rooms, 13w cool white in the halls, 18w cool white in the WIR and daylight in the portico. I'd recommend: Warm white 2700K for all living rooms/bedrooms Cool white 4000K for kitchens and bathrooms Daylight 6400K for outdoors -13w uses bugger all energy and provides more than enough light (maybe equivalent to a 60w halogen) -18w is much brighter and would be a bit too bright to do all your rooms in (unless you only want to have two down lights on it a four downlight room) -All globes take awhile to fully warm up to their maximum brightness. I used the 18w Daylight globe in the very small toilet room (2.25x0.75m, no window) for awhile and when you would turn it on, it would be way too dim. After about 10 seconds it would be acceptable and normal by 30 seconds at the latest. -Bulbs always remain at a very cool operating temperature which is great compared to normal halogen downlights which would make us swelter in summer (in our rental). -Out of the box, two globes didn't work properly (glowed a very dull pink) and two were dead. Replacing them under warranty. So yeah i'd recommend them. Shop around though. If memory serves me correctly, my sister in law purchased 18w silver fixed Espar downlights for $27.95 from Wide World of Lights while they are $19.95 standard price (less for trade) at Lighting Illusions. So yeah, stay away from your smaller lighting shops and get them from wholesalers like Lighting Illusions (QLD) or Eurolight (NSW). Eurolight is about $1 cheaper per kit than Lighting Illusions and offer free freight on downlights (up to 40). Check Ebay for their stuff. http://www.lightingillusions.com.au/Ite ... ng%20Globe Al & Caitie- Building the Hamilton 278 (Coral) at Narangba Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 29Aug 03, 2009 12:13 am alk 36 down lights all up, what size home are you building ? If I may ask. So, it seems these are better than the 12v H. down lights and cost less to run. Ive got the 12v H. type inc. in my home. I may try to speak to the builder and change them. I understand you can not use a dimmer on these is this correct ? In a room 8m x 5m Ive got 6 12v H. Do you think 6 Fluoros would be better and as you said 13w warm white 2700K. With no transformer Im sure the builder will say OK as it will save him some money if I go with these. Im now looking on EBay. There are some great things, much cheaper than the shops and more variety. I want 2 vanity basins I saw but not sure how they will arrive. The lights would be OK. Is there an option for replacing the 12 v. H after hand over. Would I have to rewire as its not 240? Thanks kindly for your great input. Cheers KW............. “It's just as unpleasant to get more than you bargain for as to get less” George Bernard Shaw. Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 30Aug 03, 2009 9:41 am alk iTalk alk 5000K will be very white. I have a few 4000K downlights and they are way too white. Like office lights... Warm white 2700K is the way to go. Looks like a halogen. $27.30 seems expensive. I got 13w Espar silver gimbal lights for $15.95 each. Yeah alk, the reason is the glass frosted covers these lights come with. Are they different to the frosted covers on these ones? http://www.lightingillusions.com.au/Ite ... ng%20Globe Here's a link to the lights we ordered from Beacon Lightings. They are similar to the ones in the link (round ones). http://www.telbix.com/images/Midas.pdf Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 31Aug 30, 2009 11:43 pm Hi there all, It seems that you have all purchased your light fittings, so this maybe a bit belated. Nonetheless, just as a reference, the Midas downlight range, is in the top50 item sellers list. Good luch all, and can i add, the colour temperatures you have used are perfect. Keep up the great work. Re: 12 volt down lights v. fluorescent down lights. 32Jan 04, 2010 1:18 pm I've just had installed some Espar downlights from ebay. We bought the 18W lights in cool white. They take about 20 seconds to fully warm up, and after that they give a very pleasant, even daylight effect. We have 15 of them in a room 11 x 5.5 metres but I think we could have done well with less. Compared to halogens the light is cooler and more diffuse. Actually I'm very impressed at how evenly the light is distributed. 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